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Sun Jan 22, 2023, 09:34 PM

Star Member riversedge (64,838 posts)

Donald Trump loses a key voting bloc just as he begins holding rallies

Source: raw story





Sarah K. Burris January 22, 2023

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Trump advisers are reportedly scrambling to generate the hefty crowd size that the former president expects, but they're having a difficult time doing it. All of this comes amid Trump losing a key bloc of voters that had been loyal and dedicated to him: anti-choice voters.

Despite the Trump judges striking down the right for an individual to regulate their own healthcare, Rolling Stone is reporting that anti-choice voters are looking to someone else as their top candidate.

The group, "Students For Life," did a straw poll looking at the 2024 candidates that are being rumored, and Donald Trump is not their first choice. In fact, his showing in second place was nothing to celebrate.

Among the 2,000 attendees at a summit of anti-choice activists, it was Gov. Ron DeSantis that won 53.7 percent of the attendees.

"Former President Donald Trump placed in a distant second with just 19.22 percent," said Rolling Stone. .............................
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Kristan Hawkins, the president of Students for Life, told the magazine that in the post-Roe era, “Checking the box and saying you’re ‘pro-life’ isn’t sufficient."...................

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Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-losing-2024-voters-already/


I think DeSantis is worse than trump--meaner for sure.



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Reply Donald Trump loses a key voting bloc just as he begins holding rallies (Original post)
 riversedge Sunday OP
LineReply Lost key voting bloc
 Rebl2 Sunday #1
LineLineReply trump never had that bloc.
 mwb970 Monday #19
LineReply Actually for once TFG told the truth
 Freddie Sunday #2
LineReply If De Santis Is Now Their Choice
 Me. Sunday #3
LineLineReply DeSantis doesnt appear to be in bed with Putin like Trump.
 oldsoftie Monday #20
LineLineLineReply He Is, Nevetheless, A Menace
 Me. Monday #27
LineLineLineLineReply As a Florida resident living in a red area, DeSanis is the left's worse nightmare
 packman Monday #29
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply THank You For Confirming
 Me. Monday #35
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply without really alarming the left?
 Skittles Tuesday #37
LineLineNew Reply If DeSanctimonious (Or Anybody Else) Gets The Nomination...
 smb Monday #33
LineLineLineNew Reply Unless he's offered a pardon. n/t
 Whiskeytide Tuesday #39
LineReply Pro-life is such a fake label to begin with
 DFW Sunday #4
LineLineReply I prefer woman-hating, theocratic, christofascist gestational slavers.
 niyad Sunday #6
LineLineLineReply You're factually correct, of course
 DFW Sunday #7
LineLineLineLineReply You do have a point. scum, for short.
 niyad Monday #12
LineLineLineLineLineReply Now, THAT works just fine!
 DFW Monday #16
LineLineLineReply Whenever I See Them Pumping THeir Signs In The Air
 Me. Sunday #9
LineLineLineLineReply ME! ME! ME....... I know the answer.
 3Hotdogs Sunday #10
LineLineLineLineLineReply ...
 Me. Monday #26
LineLineLineLineReply I have done just that. Really annoys them.
 niyad Monday #13
LineLineLineLineReply I'll take "none" for $100, Alex
 durablend Monday #30
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Go For THe Double Jeopardy Biggie And Bet It All
 Me. Monday #31
LineLineReply I HATE that label with the 🔥 of 1000 🌞s.
 ShazzieB Sunday #11
LineLineLineReply That makes two of us
 DFW Monday #17
LineLineLineLineReply +1 (nt)
 Hugh_Lebowski Monday #25
LineReply Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR**.
 niyad Sunday #5
LineReply They want Christian Fascism in a more "family-friendly" package, w. less daughter-lust
 hatrack Sunday #8
LineReply Boo Hoo
 LetMyPeopleVote Monday #14
LineReply womp womp nt
 orleans Monday #15
LineReply trump is a "distant second".
 mwb970 Monday #18
LineLineReply Actually, I think DeSantis is.
 Lonestarblue Monday #21
LineLineLineReply Completely agree!
 Chili Pepper Monday #22
LineLineLineReply Yes, DeSantis is even more dangerous to America.
 mwb970 Monday #24
LineReply we underestimated the Deplorables once
 igorman Monday #23
LineReply Chump has been a mirage from the get-go
 FakeNoose Monday #28
LineNew Reply Some Suggested Solutions
 smb Monday #32
LineNew Reply evil
 llashram Monday #34
LineNew Reply Our system of justice is very sick
 SouthernDem4ever Monday #36
LineLineNew Reply yes, WTF is up with that???
 Skittles Tuesday #38
LineNew Reply They got what they wanted anti choice on court
 Tree Lady Tuesday #40

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2023, 09:52 PM

Star Member Rebl2 (9,755 posts)

1. Lost key voting bloc

Would that be people who are discerning and think for themselves.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 03:38 AM

mwb970 (10,846 posts)

19. trump never had that bloc.

His scam did not fool me for one second.

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Sun Jan 22, 2023, 09:54 PM

Star Member Freddie (8,595 posts)

2. Actually for once TFG told the truth

That Dobbs would hurt the Repugs in the midterms. The “pro-life” folks don’t want to hear that.

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Sun Jan 22, 2023, 10:05 PM

Star Member Me. (34,967 posts)

3. If De Santis Is Now Their Choice

HOw would things be any different, perhaps worse? From the frying pan into a pizza oven?

THey are still dangerous fools.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:23 AM

oldsoftie (10,243 posts)

20. DeSantis doesnt appear to be in bed with Putin like Trump.

One of the ways trump is trying to talk him down is calling him a "war hawk".

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 09:10 AM

Star Member Me. (34,967 posts)

27. He Is, Nevetheless, A Menace

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:31 AM

Star Member packman (16,176 posts)

29. As a Florida resident living in a red area, DeSanis is the left's worse nightmare

He is stealthy in his conservative approach, knows how to shade his agenda just enough to appeal to the right without really alarming the left, he couches his words and approaches to issue with subtle shades of logic and appeal without the screaming rhetoric of the orange slug.

He us sneaky and if any one practices the political art of boiling frogs in pots so they are unaware of what is going to happen to them when the heat is turned way up and the lid is put on the pot, it is DeSantis.

Be afraid, be very afraid - this guy knows how to appeal to both sides of the see saw by sitting on that very fine balance.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 02:57 PM

Star Member Me. (34,967 posts)

35. THank You For Confirming

What I think I've been seeing.

I wonder, though, how he will play on the big stage and if that will be the end of his possibility

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Tue Jan 24, 2023, 03:34 AM

Star Member Skittles (147,651 posts)

37. without really alarming the left?

the man human-trafficked people NOT EVEN FROM HIS OWN STATE as a political stunt while performing for the cult....

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 11:35 AM

smb (3,297 posts)

33. If DeSanctimonious (Or Anybody Else) Gets The Nomination...

...the Tangerine Toddler will launch into a prolonged tantrum about how the primaries were RIGGED and STOLEN, discouraging turnout among his remaining followers in the general election.

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Tue Jan 24, 2023, 03:56 PM

Whiskeytide (4,171 posts)

39. Unless he's offered a pardon. n/t

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Sun Jan 22, 2023, 10:29 PM

Star Member DFW (49,939 posts)

4. Pro-life is such a fake label to begin with

The vast majority of these people eat meat and support the death penalty. Being against abortion rights does not make one "pro-life." As far as I'm concerned, someone who waters his plants is more "pro-life" than a rabid anti-abortion-rights activist.

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Sun Jan 22, 2023, 10:31 PM

Star Member niyad (96,533 posts)

6. I prefer woman-hating, theocratic, christofascist gestational slavers.

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Sun Jan 22, 2023, 10:36 PM

Star Member DFW (49,939 posts)

7. You're factually correct, of course

But who wants to waste so many syllables on that trash?

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 12:00 AM

Star Member niyad (96,533 posts)

12. You do have a point. scum, for short.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 01:03 AM

Star Member DFW (49,939 posts)

16. Now, THAT works just fine!

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Sun Jan 22, 2023, 11:09 PM

Star Member Me. (34,967 posts)

9. Whenever I See Them Pumping THeir Signs In The Air

I wish someone would ask them how many children they have adopted or at the very least, how many hungry children they have invited into their home foe a meal

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Sun Jan 22, 2023, 11:31 PM

Star Member 3Hotdogs (9,706 posts)

10. ME! ME! ME....... I know the answer.

Do I get a cookie?

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 09:09 AM

Star Member Me. (34,967 posts)

26. ...

🍪🍪🍪

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 12:01 AM

Star Member niyad (96,533 posts)

13. I have done just that. Really annoys them.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:32 AM

durablend (7,105 posts)

30. I'll take "none" for $100, Alex

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:56 AM

Star Member Me. (34,967 posts)

31. Go For THe Double Jeopardy Biggie And Bet It All

easy money

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Sun Jan 22, 2023, 11:33 PM

Star Member ShazzieB (9,587 posts)

11. I HATE that label with the 🔥 of 1000 🌞s.

I am convinced that whoever came up with the "pro-life" label meant for it to imply that anyone not on their side of the fence is "pro-death," which is dishonest, unfair, inaccurate, and downright rude. It is deeply, profoundly offensive to me, and I absolutely refuse to use it. Doing so would reinforce the idea that it is somehow valid, and that is something I am unwilling to do.

Even those who believe human lives are at stake should have better sense than to believe that deciding whether to have an abortion can be boiled down to making a choice between "life" and "death." That's an insultingly childish and simplistic way to look at these important decisions.

Using a label like "pro-life" is an attempt to strip away all nuances and portray abortion as a completely nuance-free, black and white issue. Imo, we should never let them get away with that.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 01:04 AM

Star Member DFW (49,939 posts)

17. That makes two of us

I'm with you on every single point you made there!!! I refuse to use it as well.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:59 AM

Star Member Hugh_Lebowski (30,249 posts)

25. +1 (nt)

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Sun Jan 22, 2023, 10:30 PM

Star Member niyad (96,533 posts)

5. Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR**.

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Sun Jan 22, 2023, 10:39 PM

Star Member hatrack (56,902 posts)

8. They want Christian Fascism in a more "family-friendly" package, w. less daughter-lust

Fuck 'em.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 12:13 AM

Star Member LetMyPeopleVote (124,206 posts)

14. Boo Hoo

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 12:19 AM

Star Member orleans (31,873 posts)

15. womp womp nt

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 03:36 AM

mwb970 (10,846 posts)

18. trump is a "distant second".

That's gotta sting. And no, nobody is worse than trump, all things considered. Aside from his pal Putin, that is.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 07:27 AM

Star Member Lonestarblue (7,095 posts)

21. Actually, I think DeSantis is.

He is smarter than Trump, and he doesn’t have all the Trump baggage—the business fraud with the fake university and many others, the sexual assaults, the fake charity he and the family used as a piggybank, his curious relationship with Putin brought to center stage with private meetings and phone calls and his refusal ever to criticize Putin.

DeSantis is a homegrown version of Trump, but with the intelligence to cultivate white grievance and religious extremism and use them to his advantage. Everything he does is calculated for its benefit to him politically. Trump and his Republican enablers brought fascist ideas to the forefront and made them acceptable to their voters. I believe DeSantis is even more a fascist and would do great harm to our country if he were ever elected president with control of both houses of Congress. He might not do the same type of damage internationally that Trump did because no one knows his foreign policy views, but his domestic agenda is clearly one of promoting Republican and evangelical propaganda as the law of the land, hurting women an ties however possible.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 07:41 AM

Star Member Chili Pepper (60 posts)

22. Completely agree!

DeSantis is a smarter, more articulate, more organized version of Trump. And he continues to take it further.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:01 AM

mwb970 (10,846 posts)

24. Yes, DeSantis is even more dangerous to America.

But nobody is worse than trump as a human being. If trump is even human, which I see no evidence of.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 07:53 AM

igorman (16 posts)

23. we underestimated the Deplorables once

 

Never again. there are enough idiots to make any Hitler win.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:06 AM

Star Member FakeNoose (27,504 posts)

28. Chump has been a mirage from the get-go

Even the stupidest MAGAts can see that now.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 11:33 AM

smb (3,297 posts)

32. Some Suggested Solutions

Trump advisers are reportedly scrambling to generate the hefty crowd size that the former president expects


Mirrors? Cardboard standees? Parade the same little group in front of the stage over and over?

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 01:24 PM

Star Member llashram (5,826 posts)

34. evil

has had his way with that Florida racist. May he flop on his face with his antagonist trump and never raise his evil bean head again to curse this country with his brand of malignant hate that appeals to so many Americans.

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Mon Jan 23, 2023, 04:18 PM

Star Member SouthernDem4ever (2,042 posts)

36. Our system of justice is very sick

that it would allow a traitor and insurrectionist to run for high office.

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Tue Jan 24, 2023, 03:36 AM

Star Member Skittles (147,651 posts)

38. yes, WTF is up with that???

IT IS RIDICULOUS

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Tue Jan 24, 2023, 05:30 PM

Star Member Tree Lady (10,429 posts)

40. They got what they wanted anti choice on court

so they don't need him anymore and others will follow the path.

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