Wed Jan 18, 2023, 11:35 AM
brooklynite (86,848 posts)
Major Israeli Supreme Court ruling rocks Netanyahu's coalition
Source: Axios The Israeli Supreme Court in a 10-1 ruling revoked the appointment of Aryeh Deri, leader of the ultra-Orthodox Shas party and a key ally of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as a senior minister in the government.
Why it matters: The decision could dramatically escalate the constitutional crisis in Israel and accelerate the government’s effort to push forward its plan for weakening Israel’s judicial system. It could also create a political crisis that would likely destabilize the coalition. Catch up quick: Deri, one of Israel’s most powerful politicians, has been convicted of criminal offenses twice, including last year, when he agreed to a plea bargain in which he admitted to tax offenses. Read more: https://www.axios.com/2023/01/18/israeli-supreme-court-revokes-appointment-of-minister-aryeh-deri
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brooklynite | Jan 2023 | OP |
burrowowl | Jan 2023 | #1 | |
iluvtennis | Jan 2023 | #2 | |
orangecrush | Jan 2023 | #4 | |
Mosby | Jan 2023 | #5 | |
hay rick | Jan 2023 | #8 | |
Butterflylady | Jan 2023 | #9 | |
Miguelito Loveless | Jan 2023 | #11 | |
iluvtennis | Jan 2023 | #13 | |
orangecrush | Jan 2023 | #14 | |
quakerboy | Jan 2023 | #10 | |
Martin68 | Jan 2023 | #3 | |
Ford_Prefect | Jan 2023 | #6 | |
onecaliberal | Jan 2023 | #7 | |
republianmushroom | Jan 2023 | #12 |
Response to brooklynite (Original post)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:12 PM
burrowowl (16,872 posts)
1. Yesss!
Response to brooklynite (Original post)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:23 PM
iluvtennis (18,085 posts)
2. It amazes me that acorss the world ex-felons are allowed to run for public office. Just DISGUSTING.
Response to iluvtennis (Reply #2)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:07 PM
orangecrush (16,781 posts)
4. So ex felons
Shouldn't be allowed to vote, either? This goes back to Jim Crow. It was a way of keeping blacks out of the political equation. Being an ex felon doesn't automatically define someone as a scumbag. Hiring people to shoot at political opponents does. |
Response to orangecrush (Reply #4)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:39 PM
Mosby (14,660 posts)
5. Pena's history of felonies sure was predictive though.
Just saying.
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Response to orangecrush (Reply #4)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:58 PM
hay rick (6,644 posts)
8. Ex-felons running for office and voting are two different things.
Both are restrictions on civil liberties. In almost all cases, such restrictions are defined by conditions or circumstances that are specific to the individual case. In Deri's case, the article includes these points:
"When Deri signed his plea deal, the prosecution and the judge made it clear that they understood he was leaving political life. But less than a year later, he ran for office again, claiming he never said his departure from public life would be forever. Supreme Court President Esther Hayut wrote in the decision that Deri made clear in his own statements that he would no longer deal with public money." |
Response to hay rick (Reply #8)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 02:30 PM
Butterflylady (3,022 posts)
9. I agree.
Voting is one thing, holding a government office if you are a convicted felon is entirely different.
Hopefully that will happen to trump in the future. |
Response to orangecrush (Reply #4)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 04:21 PM
Miguelito Loveless (4,282 posts)
11. I don't see that they are prventing him from voting
they are preventing him from holding office.
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Response to orangecrush (Reply #4)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 08:11 PM
iluvtennis (18,085 posts)
13. @orangecrush: I firmly believe ex-felons should be allowed to vote. They served their time
and deserve to be fully integrated back into society with all rights.
I do not beleive certain ex-felons (e.g., those where fraud, corruption, murder, etc.) should be allowed to run for political office. Just my opionion. |
Response to iluvtennis (Reply #13)
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 01:00 PM
orangecrush (16,781 posts)
14. Perfectly reasonable
And makes complete sense |
Response to iluvtennis (Reply #2)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 02:37 PM
quakerboy (13,674 posts)
10. They arent in many places
Putin's opponents seem to collect disqualifying sentences on a very useful (to putin) timeline.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:47 PM
Martin68 (20,671 posts)
3. Interesting that Trump and the GOP are not trend setters, but just a sign of the times.
Ultra-righwing and authoritarian political parties are welcoming convicted criminals into their ranks in a number of countries. It's a particularly interesting development because such parties usually pace a great deal of stress an anti-crime agenda.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:40 PM
Ford_Prefect (7,184 posts)
6. There is an actual conspiracy of Oligarchs who have been actively attempting to nullify leagal
power in the west. Putin's pals are just one part of a larger plan to use political powers to insulate the Ultra rich from any governmental interference. Russian backing of the Brexit/Tory madness is a visible example. Their involvement with the GOP and Trump is another. Netanyahu is the Trump equivalent in Israel. The clique surrounding MBS in Saudi Arabia is another set of them. They align along Oil and other extraction wealth and plan on consuming as much of the earth as they wish so long as THEY are the beneficiaries. What they most earnestly wish is to mute any objection by citizens or governments to that plan.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:54 PM
onecaliberal (29,904 posts)
7. Ex democratic felons cannot even vote, but recons, can run for office.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 07:09 PM
republianmushroom (6,923 posts)