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Sun Dec 4, 2022, 12:56 AM

Trump calls for the termination of the Constitution in Truth Social post

Source: CNN

(CNN)Former President Donald Trump called for the termination of the Constitution to overturn the 2020 election and reinstate him to power Saturday in a continuation of his election denialism and pushing of fringe conspiracy theories.

"Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Trump wrote in a post on the social network Truth Social and accused "Big Tech" of working closely with Democrats. "Our great 'Founders' did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!"

Trump's post came after the release of internal Twitter emails showing deliberation in 2020 over a New York Post story about material found on Hunter Biden's laptop.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html



How is this not blaring all over Democratic media and forums?

This sick puppy just implicated himself for the January 6th mayhem.

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Reply Trump calls for the termination of the Constitution in Truth Social post (Original post)
orangecrush Dec 4 OP
The Roux Comes First Dec 4 #1
EarnestPutz Dec 4 #2
orangecrush Dec 4 #7
mwb970 Dec 4 #21
EarnestPutz Dec 5 #47
orangecrush Dec 4 #3
True Blue American Dec 4 #17
orangecrush Dec 4 #37
marybourg Dec 4 #4
orangecrush Dec 4 #8
marybourg Dec 4 #5
Ocelot II Dec 4 #6
orangecrush Dec 4 #9
live love laugh Dec 4 #10
orangecrush Dec 4 #11
Tetrachloride Dec 4 #12
duforsure Dec 4 #13
cstanleytech Dec 4 #14
orangecrush Dec 4 #15
True Blue American Dec 4 #42
ificandream Dec 4 #45
bucolic_frolic Dec 4 #16
JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 4 #18
twodogsbarking Dec 4 #19
mwb970 Dec 4 #20
truthisfreedom Dec 4 #22
Escurumbele Dec 4 #23
Kid Berwyn Dec 4 #24
Dopers_Greed Dec 4 #26
Kid Berwyn Dec 4 #34
AngryOldDem Dec 4 #31
Kid Berwyn Dec 4 #35
orangecrush Dec 4 #44
Magoo48 Dec 4 #38
Kid Berwyn Dec 4 #39
twodogsbarking Dec 4 #25
IronLionZion Dec 4 #27
karynnj Dec 4 #28
Bernardo de La Paz Dec 4 #29
Bernardo de La Paz Dec 4 #30
twodogsbarking Dec 4 #32
NQAS Dec 4 #33
Tommymac Dec 4 #36
Stuart G Dec 4 #40
Justice matters. Dec 4 #41
orangecrush Dec 4 #43
DemocraticPatriot Dec 4 #46
Mz Pip Dec 5 #48
Paladin Dec 5 #49
orangecrush Dec 5 #50

Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 01:01 AM

1. It's Troubling to Think of Actual Martyrdom, As Compared to the Pitiful-Me Sort He Wraps Himself in

Every day, but wouldn't you think a family member or two would be desperately self-protecting enough to leave some capsules or something within reach?

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 01:17 AM

2. It's nice that, as the world is really closing in on him and he faces real consequences, that he....

....at last may finally see the real cause of his problems, the constitution. It isn't the "phony press" and "fake news", it isn't the 'out of control courts" and the "corrupt judges" and it isn't the "lying, cheating Democrats" and their "witch hunts". It's the Constitution that is his real enemy and now must be attacked.

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Response to EarnestPutz (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 01:23 AM

7. To quote DU member Warpy..


"Well, crap like that will certainly ensure that he gets there
even though he's only saying what every obscenely rich but inconvenienced man has said at one time or another.

I'm glad he's saying it. I hope he starts saying it at his stupid rallies. People need to know this."


Thanks! Warpy!

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 01:19 AM

3. Just ignore him



Not a big deal.

A former president just called for the Constitution to be shredded.

Nothing to see here.

Do I need the sarcasm thing?

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 06:26 AM

17. I just posted

Last edited Sun Dec 4, 2022, 02:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Asking that question of the old die hard Constitutional set in stone gang how they felt about that. You know the gun lovers, who say the right to carry guns can not be abridged.

This lunatic wants to throw the whole thing out because he lost an election in both votes and electoral.

Seriously this man needs to be where he can no longer cause harm.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 01:22 AM

4. Front page WaPo. Also, President's rebuke of tRump.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 01:22 AM

6. It *is* all over the media. I've read it in at least a dozen places this evening.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 01:26 AM

9. Thanks, I feel better now

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 01:38 AM

10. IOW: Nobody's paying any attention to him:

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 01:41 AM

11. "It's going to be wild"



Nobody paid attention to that either

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 02:01 AM

12. Way to make friends. Sedition, treason and all your golf buddies

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 02:19 AM

13. Just another sign he is a fascist,

Who is desperately trying to get attention away from his constant legal troubles, and his constant political losses, and loss of donors and followers. He wants his rule of law, his judicial system, and his Congress , like Putin has in russia , total control. Media needs to ignore him, and quit giving him publicity, except when he gets indicted .

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 02:50 AM

14. Sounds like Trump trying to get the news media to provide him free PR like he tricked

them into doing back in 2016.
Question is will they fall for it this time?

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 03:40 AM

15. "Autcracy: Rules for Survival"



One Year After Trump’s Election, Revisiting “Autocracy: Rules for Survival”

By Masha Gessen

November 8, 2017
P
Ayear ago, panicked friends were writing to ask me what to do now that the United States had elected Donald Trump. Like I’d know: I had spent years writing and organizing in opposition to Vladimir Putin, only to have to leave Russia. But a decade and a half in Putin’s Russia taught me something about living in an autocracy. I am familiar with the ways in which it numbs the mind and drains the spirit. I wrote a piece called “Autocracy: Rules for Survival,” which was published by The New York Review of Books and read by millions of people. Today seems a good day to look at how well my proposed rules have held up.

Rule No. 1: Believe the autocrat. I argued against the expectation that Trump would change in the months following the election, becoming somehow “Presidential” and abandoning his more extreme positions. This belief, it seemed to me, stemmed from the inability to absorb the fact of a Trump Presidency, and not from any historical precedents of similar transformations. The best predictors of autocrats’ and aspiring autocrats’ behavior are their own public statements, because these statements brought them to power in the first place.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/one-year-after-trumps-election-revisiting-autocracy-rules-for-survival

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 04:01 PM

42. He is and I had to turn them off.

Jake Tapper actually blamed Democrats for the loss of sick days, showed Sherrod a complain from a Union member blaming them. Jake has become such a jerk. He will say anything to suck up to Chris Listz. Who is another joke. Brianna was the only show I watched, replaced. With Milquetoast and his 2 women. Worse than Scarborough.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 07:05 PM

45. He's a former President, so it's going to be reported. The question is how much.

And really, I haven't seen that much.

And I think we should just call him an attention whore. Because that's what he is.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 06:22 AM

16. Needs scopolamine

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 07:25 AM

18. "... I will protect and defend the constitu ..." ...

... no, wait, never mind.

oath faker.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 07:28 AM

19. Eat too much ketchup and you will change color. Fact.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 07:44 AM

20. What a grotesque piece of crap this worthless punk is.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 08:09 AM

22. Finding the exact point of no return

Seems to be this nutjob’s primary quest.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 08:09 AM

23. 1. trump did not write that, it is too well written to have come out of his fragile mind

2. All these things that are said, that sometimes make us laugh because of their absurdity, must be taken seriously. Part of the populist strategy is to create a culture throughout the country that does two things, one is to divide where republicans have succeeded and the other one is to create a hegemony in the culture to get people to think alike, to respond to mandates by the "leaders" and they do this by using the media (don't we always wonder why the media seems to work against Democracy?), education and other means to peacefully gain control, and its all done in the name of "Democracy" and "The People"...Remember when trump kept repeating "Only I can fix it", that is part of the dialect used by populists.

All the "Think-Tanks" republicans have is a conglomerate of intellectuals who think republicans must take full control of the country, that the Estate must govern in its totality. These people are very dangerous, some of them will realize later the damage they cause because one thing they have in common is believing that they, and their families, will be exempt from all the damage they create, to later find out they too will pay when their usefulness runs out.

In general, there are two types of populism, one that begins with "Socialism" rhetoric, and the other, which I found is the one republicans are following, is a more totalitarian methodology, but make no mistake, they both end up as fascism. Think about it, what kind of people have been the target of trump and the republicans? Who, besides some intellectuals, make up the base of the republican party? Very ignorant, easily manipulated people who lack independent thought.

We need to do a couple of things, one is to stop laughing about the stupidities trump and republican spew on a daily basis, because although they are off-the-wall, they do have an intent, and two, we need to stop publishing so much of what trump does because we only give him strength by doing so. I for one don't click on the videos of the buffoon, I may read the headline, but I refuse to listen to the jackass, he needs to be ignored, he needs to loose strength.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 08:27 AM

24. Did the national news media miss this story?

Or are they corrupt, too?

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:39 AM

26. They're probably scouring transcripts of everything Biden ever said

To find a quote to use for their "both sides" argument.

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Response to Dopers_Greed (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 11:52 AM

34. When Plausible Deniability infected the news room.

THE CIA AND THE MEDIA

How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up

BY CARL BERNSTEIN
Rolling Stone, October 20, 1977

In 1953, Joseph Alsop, then one of America’s leading syndicated columnists, went to the Philippines to cover an election. He did not go because he was asked to do so by his syndicate. He did not go because he was asked to do so by the newspapers that printed his column. He went at the request of the CIA.

Alsop is one of more than 400 American journalists who in the past twenty‑five years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency, according to documents on file at CIA headquarters. Some of these journalists’ relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap. Journalists provided a full range of clandestine services—from simple intelligence gathering to serving as go‑betweens with spies in Communist countries. Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors without‑portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested in the derring‑do of the spy business as in filing articles; and, the smallest category, full‑time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad. In many instances, CIA documents show, journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements of America’s leading news organizations.

The history of the CIA’s involvement with the American press continues to be shrouded by an official policy of obfuscation and deception for the following principal reasons:

■ The use of journalists has been among the most productive means of intelligence‑gathering employed by the CIA. Although the Agency has cut back sharply on the use of reporters since 1973 primarily as a result of pressure from the media), some journalist‑operatives are still posted abroad.

■ Further investigation into the matter, CIA officials say, would inevitably reveal a series of embarrassing relationships in the 1950s and 1960s with some of the most powerful organizations and individuals in American journalism.


Among the executives who lent their cooperation to the Agency were Williarn Paley of the Columbia Broadcasting System, Henry Luce of Time Inc., Arthur Hays Sulzberger of the New York Times, Barry Bingham Sr. of the Louisville Courier‑Journal, and James Copley of the Copley News Service. Other organizations which cooperated with the CIA include the American Broadcasting Company, the National Broadcasting Company, the Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps‑Howard, Newsweek magazine, the Mutual Broadcasting System, the Miami Herald and the old Saturday Evening Post and New York Herald‑Tribune.

By far the most valuable of these associations, according to CIA officials, have been with the New York Times, CBS and Time Inc.

Continues…

https://www.carlbernstein.com/the-cia-and-the-media-rolling-stone-10-20-1977

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 10:39 AM

31. First I heard of it was in the comments section of an online column.

Immediately thought it was an exaggeration. Nope. Should have known better.

Needless to say, this has ruined my day because I doubt anybody in the GOP will have the guts to denounce this, or Trump.

We are taking GIANT steps toward losing this country if people don’t wake the fuck up SOON.

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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #31)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 11:56 AM

35. If the media were to give it the attention it deserves...

…the rest of the sordid Trump as Putin’s Puppet story makes perfect sense; and the nation would have solid proof demonstrating the similarly corrupt nature of the press.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 12:57 PM

38. No matter what tfg said, the corporate news media is corrupt.

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #38)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 02:09 PM

39. Professional Grade Corruption

Thank Goodness for DU. From 2013:

Mass Media ignoring 'RFK Believed in Conspiracy' shows corrupt nature of America's Press

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10022416498

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:22 AM

25. The founding fathers would likely have hanged Trump.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:43 AM

27. The constitution is a real problem for him

it has clauses for emoluments and treason and sedition and even nonwhite citizenship.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 10:02 AM

28. More than complicity for j6, he is calling for new coup to put him back in office

Totally new acts of sedition.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 10:13 AM

29. Beware his wording: "ALLOWS for the termination". He declares it fraud, goons try terminate US Gvmt

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 10:18 AM

30. 18 USC §2384. Seditious conspiracy


"conspire to ... oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States,"

18 USC §2384. Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808 ; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §1, 70 Stat. 623 ; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148 .)

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-1999-title18-section2384&num=0&edition=1999

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 11:18 AM

32. Asshole ignores it regardless.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 11:36 AM

33. If we're not careful

we're going to free speech ourselves to destruction.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 12:44 PM

36. The 2022 version of rethuglican party needs to be tagged with this - it is their goal too.

Bunch of racist, misogynistic traitors.

They made him, they nurtured him, now they need to be put in the same bed with him.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 02:15 PM

40. K & R...Donald Trump is ...NUTS!!...And he has just proved it to "Everyone."

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #40)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 03:39 PM

41. Like in "Your Honor, our client is mentally unstable like his father was"

"and we have many instances to prove it" blah-blah-blah.

Hair furhair's last defense.

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Response to Justice matters. (Reply #41)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 05:12 PM

43. The German corporal was nuts too



Unfortunately, he was ignored until it was far too late.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 10:46 PM

46. He says it out loud-- AGAIN

and a GOP party leader on Sunday morning news shows "condemns" it--
kicking and screaming and dissembling about it---


but says he will still support Trump in 2024, if he is the nominee.... LOL


(sorry, don't recall that congressman's name, and in 100 years, neither will anyone else--
unless perhaps he is charged with treason in the meantime)

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Dec 5, 2022, 10:17 AM

48. His supporters are fine with this.

They are defending him saying the Constitution allows for extreme means in the face of such blatant tyranny as a fraudulent election.

And you cannot convince them otherwise. In their minds it’s Biden who is shredding the Constitution.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Dec 5, 2022, 02:46 PM

49. Sure would be nice if Garland's DOJ did something about this. (nt)

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