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Tue Nov 22, 2022, 11:54 PM

Trump Will Beat DeSantis By A Wide Margin In 2024, New Poll Shows

Source: International Business Times

Former President Donald Trump will likely win against Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis by a wide margin in a hypothetical 2024 election for the Republican nomination, according to a new poll.

In a recent Emerson College poll, Trump received 55% support from Republican registered voters who participated in the survey. In comparison, only 25% said they favored DeSantis as the GOP's presidential nominee in a hypothetical 2024 election.

No other candidate for the Republican nomination reached double-digit support.

Trump and DeSantis were matched up against other potential Republican presidential candidates, including former Vice President Mike Pence, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan and Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney.

Read more: https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-will-beat-desantis-wide-margin-2024-new-poll-shows-3639256



The spin that Trump is washed up would seem to be a little premature. Trump is beating DeSantis 2:1. Add in Trumper fanaticism, and Trump has quite an effective lead at this stage of the contest before DeSantis declares.

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Reply Trump Will Beat DeSantis By A Wide Margin In 2024, New Poll Shows (Original post)
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Lasher Tuesday #1
SoCalDavidS Wednesday #8
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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 11:57 PM

1. That's as if the election were held today.

A lot can and will change between now and November 2024.

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Response to Lasher (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:29 AM

8. Like What?

MAGA voters are going to suddenly get Brains?

Well, TFG hasn't shot anybody on 5th Avenue yet, but that would probably increase his support anyways.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:58 AM

21. Like him being in jail for one.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:03 AM

23. He's Not Going To Jail

No Way.

He won't even be indicted.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:11 AM

24. Sounds like RW talking points which I know you're not.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:34 AM

25. Right Wing Talking Points

I'm FAR from the only DU member who has this exact sentiment. Nor am I FAR from the only Democrat who does. I know many who feel likewise.

Saying he's not going to be indicted nor go to jail are not right wing talking points. It's reality.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:48 AM

27. How many Grand Juries going after him?

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 11:24 PM

55. Merry Fiztmas! I gave up thinking

that one of these crimes would be land him in jail. They talk big talk. Nobody does anything.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 27, 2022, 12:58 AM

58. With any luck

The way he avoids jail is by dropping dead. It’s a win win the way I see, he avoids jail and we can avoid him for good.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 10:31 AM

45. They would still vote for him.

Jail means nothing to them.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:21 AM

37. Like Desantis actually running and campaigning

Bernie Sanders was ahead of Joe Biden by double digits in some polls before Joe declared he was running.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 26, 2022, 06:02 AM

56. We just saw in the election earlier this month how inaccurate the polls were.

We should know from that that pollsters haven't improved on their predictive skills from three weeks ago.

Let's just wait and see. And trump is in so much legal jeopardy, he might be in jail by then...or at least home detention or some country club prison.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 11:59 PM

2. I don't think DeSantis is going to run, at least not in 2024. Nt

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:31 AM

9. That's My Thinking

He knows going up against TFG is a losing proposition, and could only result in damage.

He'll wait until 2028, although I suppose TFG could run again then too, but that seems less likely. And hopefully he'll be dead by then.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:16 PM

49. I don't see him running at 82

This will likely be his last run, unless he wins and somehow forms a dictatorship (highly unlikely).

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:12 AM

3. Polling is dead.

It’s been unreliable for at least a decade now.

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Response to intheflow (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:03 AM

16. Exactly....seems some never get that text. We just had an election 2 wks ago where the polls were

So far off….yet here we are

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Response to intheflow (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:51 AM

29. So right

And why is a favorable Trump poll, probably made up on DU?

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Response to intheflow (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 11:45 AM

46. Yep

Just like in this last election. Do pollsters realize people they call lie to them just to mess up their stupid polls?

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:13 AM

4. IB Times?

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:15 AM

5. Ooh! A POLL!!! BELIEVE!!!

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Response to dchill (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:12 AM

13. Work that poll...

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:03 AM

22. She's a poll worker, all right!

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:16 AM

6. Don't trust the polls

I think they are so unreliable now. So many of the models of information gathering are outdated.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:22 AM

7. ehhh

at this point it's all name recognition.

We at DU--and most of us do--realize that most Americans don't take politics very seriously. Nowhere near how we do.

Right before Nov. 8, NPR did some interviewing of citizens (independents, i think) about their candidate selection. Most of them barely knew who was running.

So yeah, even if polling was reliable, this is irrelevant for that reason.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:45 AM

11. Exactly.

They should poll Florida Republicans instead, since they know both names equally well.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:34 AM

10. Curious that they say the poll is of "voters who participated in the survey."

Isn't that what all polls are? How would one poll people who don't participate in the survey? Maybe it means that they aren't including those who would vote for neither in their mythical match-ups.

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Response to PSPS (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:12 AM

18. Maybe those who laughed hysterically and hung up the phone don't count? nt

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:03 AM

12. that's funny after their colossal midterm fail, the pollsters are pushing their polls again

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Response to TomDaisy (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 06:32 AM

32. and they aren't even embarrassed

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:26 AM

14. But it's not a cult! No no no! /s

To be fair, though, look at the others in the poll. Cheney? Hawley? Nikki? Teddy?? PENCE??

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:55 AM

15. Listening to talk radio..trumpers realize desantis is ambitious ego driven

They love trump..desantis isnt as likeable

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:11 AM

17. Good thing his arse will be in jail by then. nt

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:15 AM

19. Most people don't have the faintest idea who DeSantis is but do recognize the name Trump. n/t

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:46 AM

20. Oh the polls...... they drive me crazy!


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Response to Ziggysmom (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:39 AM

26. I Believe That Poll Completely

40% of all voters will vote for the repub, No Matter Who it is.

The fact President Biden supposedly has a 4% advantage at the moment, should scare the shit out of us. We are a complete failure as a nation.

Why we can't get those who believe in Democratic policies to vote is beyond me. Too many Americans just don't give a shit, and I don't know what can be done to change that.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:02 AM

35. I know! When trying to convince friends to vote, I would often get the response

that you vote one ass in, vote another ass out and it doesn't matter.

That horrifies me! Such apathy. Later when those same folks complain I really tear into them. Especially women!

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:49 AM

28. People don't want New Coke. They like Coke Classic.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 06:06 AM

30. Gosh

yet another poll.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 06:30 AM

31. and we are still quoting national polls after what happened in the midterms.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 06:49 AM

33. Wheel of Misfortune.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:00 AM

34. Don't believe it.

This Quinnpac poll says exactly the opposite.

It says republicans would vote deSantis.

https://pollingreport.com/2024.htm

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Response to James48 (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 08:41 AM

40. Which is why I posted the Emerson poll.

The Quinnipac poll was cited as proof that Trump was washed up. Both are A- pollsters. The situation is uncertain.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:17 AM

36. If Trump knows anything, it's how to alpha Republicans

Trump’s a useless waste of a person, but he knows how to alpha other Republicans and play to his base’s most primitive instincts. I wouldn’t bet against him in the primary, barring him actually being convicted of something fairly serious.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 08:21 AM

38. Before the midterms DeSantis was leading trump

In 2024 by a large margin. It will flip back and forth 100 times between now and then. Who cares?????

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 08:34 AM

39. They tested Liz Cheney?

An odd choice. Clickbait poll.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 09:27 AM

41. ibtimes, what the heck is that? Ill tell you...

IBT Media is an American global digital news organization with over 90 million monthly readers, owned by followers of religious leader David Jang. per google/wikipedia Who was polled, what were the questions, what was the methodology they used, how scientific, what is the bias of the pollster, whats the underlying message they want to convey (polls can be designed to "prove" just about anything)? Lets be a little more discerning pls!

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 09:35 AM

42. Inaccurate headline. Polls don't say what "will" happen

They say what would happen during the dates the poll was conducted. In this case 2 years before the primaries.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 09:58 AM

43. way too early

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 10:24 AM

44. Of course the MAGAs will vote for DJT over DeSantis. However...

...when put up in a general election I believe Trump is more polarizing and would do worse that DeSantis.

The average republican may vote overwhelmingly for DeSantis, but sit on their hands when it comes to another term by Trump versus a democrat. MAGAs will get over it and vote for the R no matter who it is.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 11:53 AM

47. Most Repukes are MAGAts.

Not surprised one bit.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 11:56 AM

48. Doesn't mean he can beat Biden

Especially if history repeats itself: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15044874


Rocknation

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Response to Rocknation (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:38 PM

51. No. It is Biden's destiny to stare down the 'Leader'

of American fascism twice, I am thinking. That is what he will be remembered for more than anything else - 'The Battle for the Soul of America.'

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:26 PM

50. Tsk Tsk

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:32 PM

52. There's no point in acknowledging any validity of these poll numbers.

I will say, however, that if DeSantis gets the nom in 2024, Trump will mount a third-party challenge. If Trump gets the nod, DeSantis won't go third-party.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 04:13 PM

53. Of course he will. Trump de Man!

But the nationwide picture is different. I doubt Trump has a snowball's chance in hell of being elected. Hopefully ongoing investigations will put him in prison put us out of danger.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Sat Nov 26, 2022, 07:43 AM

57. you see folk wear trump stuff not gop stuff

never underestimate devotion to a cult

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