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Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:21 AM

 

Kremlin welcomes Elon Musk proposal for Ukraine settlement denounced by Kyiv

Source: Reuters

MOSCOW, Oct 4 (Reuters) - The Kremlin praised Tesla boss Elon Musk on Tuesday for suggesting a possible peace deal to end the war in Ukraine, after Kyiv rebuked Musk for proposing terms it views as rewarding Russia.

"It is very positive that somebody like Elon Musk is looking for a peaceful way out of this situation," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters in a conference call.

"Compared to many professional diplomats, Musk is still searching for ways to achieve peace. And achieving peace without fulfilling Russia's conditions is absolutely impossible," he added.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-welcomes-elon-musk-proposal-ukraine-settlement-denounced-by-kyiv-2022-10-04/



I think the CIA should keep an eye on Elon musk. Surveillance may be necessary. Did you notice that he only called for peace once Ukraine turn the tables and Russia is getting its ass kicked?

He could use his past delivery of satellite help for Ukraine as an alibi to collaboration with Putin.

Elon wants a big market to sell cars to Russians who can't even drive a new car with a airbag anymore.

Here is anarticle from several years ago titled "Tesla takes the lead in sales of electric cars in Russia in 2016"
https://tass.com/economy/926798

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Reply Kremlin welcomes Elon Musk proposal for Ukraine settlement denounced by Kyiv (Original post)
fanfanois Oct 4 OP
brush Oct 4 #1
bullimiami Oct 4 #2
onetexan Oct 4 #16
dweller Oct 4 #3
Fords Crackpipe Oct 5 #23
ananda Oct 4 #4
marble falls Oct 4 #5
relayerbob Oct 4 #6
BlueIdaho Oct 4 #7
The Jungle 1 Oct 4 #8
EX500rider Oct 4 #11
The Jungle 1 Oct 4 #14
Calista241 Oct 4 #19
The Jungle 1 Oct 4 #20
Fords Crackpipe Oct 5 #24
Traildogbob Oct 4 #9
Fords Crackpipe Oct 5 #25
EndlessWire Oct 4 #10
Warpy Oct 4 #12
jgmiller Oct 4 #13
paulkienitz Oct 4 #18
Fords Crackpipe Oct 5 #26
blue-wave Oct 4 #15
Beastly Boy Oct 4 #17
Pachamama Oct 5 #21
Duppers Oct 5 #22
Disaffected Oct 5 #27
LetMyPeopleVote Oct 6 #28

Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:27 AM

1. Muck should STFU and keep his nose out of Ukraine's business.

Since when is he a diplomat? His billions are going to his head, making him think he can butt into geopolitical matters.

It is telling that the Kremlin is looking for a way out...a face-saving one though that doesn't admit defeat and this one actually gains them territory.

The Ukrainians are kicking Russian ass now and won't go for it.

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:27 AM

2. ive got a peace deal. get the fuck out and that includes crimea.

pay the hundreds of billions in reparations it will take to rebuild and take care of those left devasted.

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Response to bullimiami (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 12:05 PM

16. +1 K&R

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:30 AM

3. Kremlin welcomes Elon Musk

Full stop

That’s a better headline


✌🏻

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Response to dweller (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 5, 2022, 10:21 AM

23. +1000

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:34 AM

4. So Elon Musk thinks he's president of the world now?

Balderdash

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:39 AM

5. If that isn't the proof Putin is desperate, what is? ...

... BTW: CIA monitoring Elon Mush in the US would be illegal. That would be the FBI's job.

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:47 AM

6. It's not a settlement, it's surrender

Fuck Elon Musk

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:02 AM

7. I hope they realize

He speaks for no one but himself.

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:14 AM

8. Arrest him right now


The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States.

Put him in jail he is putting our nation at risk.

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Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:51 AM

11. Except Russia is officially in a dispute with the Ukraine not the US

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:28 AM

14. Russia is in a dispute with a lot of the world

We are disputing their invasion of a sovereign nation.

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Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 02:13 PM

19. You'd have to put everyone on twitter in jail if you tried to do that

and everyone on DU for that matter. Spouting off an uninformed opinion on twitter is not a crime.

In practical matters, his re-tasking of Starlink for Ukraine to communicate and defeating Russia's attempts to blockade communications is closer to a Logan Act violation than spouting off nonsense on twitter.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #19)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 03:20 PM

20. I will go with apples and oranges.

It is one thing for you and I to spout off. It is completely different thing when one of the richest men in the world spouts off. A man with close ties to russia who is trying to cultivate the russian car market. He is interfering with world affiars and he needs to be stopped.
That said no one has ever been convicted of the Logan act.

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Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 5, 2022, 10:22 AM

24. +1000

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:22 AM

9. Is this even a story?

Like a Breaking News heading. “Oceans have water”.
And remember, Musk may soon own Twitter. Putin is staining the front of his underpants.

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:45 AM

10. It's some kind of sin.

I don't know what, but he should take his clown nose off. People are DYING in this war. The Ukrainians are winning right now, and they are going to take back all of Ukraine plus Crimea. That's all we need to know. That, and the fact that they didn't start this war. It's all on Putin.

People like Tucker Carlson and Musk will not be remembered as patriotic, or fondly, or anything. People do not get confused and equate money with any great intelligence. He's showing what an ass he is.

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:19 AM

12. The best and brightest, along with people who have made enough money

to buy Teslas, are trying to leave Russia before they get sucked into Putin's war and turned into mincemeat. His target buyers are now in Turkey, the 'Stans, Georgia, and (if they had waited weeks for visas) other western countries. In any case, his market would have been limited to Moscow and St. Petersburg, and not much even there.

"Sanctioned Ivan" has some great videos about needing a new car during Putin's war. He ended up with an old Lada and a couple of dodgy mechanics who promised to make it just like new.

ETA: He's out of Russia.

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:23 AM

13. Yes Musk is crazy but everyone including Russia and Ukraine doesn't need to take the bait

Let's be real here, he posted a poll on Twitter. I'm sure there have been hundreds of similar polls posted on Twitter and conducted by polling organizations with similar proposals. The difference is everyone follows Musk and see's it. He has every right to post a poll on anything he wants. It doesn't make him a traitor or a Russian sympathizer just like his idiotic posts about Trump don't make him a Trump fan.

Frankly nobody knows who or what he really supports and I think he likes it that way. At best he's a troll so just let it be and move on.

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Response to jgmiller (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 01:44 PM

18. he does have a history of manipulative public posturing

Like, a few months ago he made a brief show of anti wokeness, just to rally reactionary support at a time when he was being called out for sexual harrassment. He looked for who would support him in spite of such an accusation and settled on the racists. Now the story's died down and he no longer makes those kinds of statements.

Also he's admitted that all his promotion of the idiot idea of the Hyperloop was just to sabotage support for high speed rail.

So he's not just some asbergery naif who blurts out whatever pops into his head, he is totally trying to maneuver public opinion.

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 12:02 PM

15. "Kremlin welcomes Elon Musk proposal"

Who'd a thunk it? Hey, Elon! You gonna join Snowden over there in Mother Russia? Maybe you can get drafted too!!

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 12:11 PM

17. Musk made a proposal? I thought it was a friggin twitter poll.

Did Musk propose anything to Russia? Ukraine? The UN? I don't think so.

So Russia, a sovereign state, is now reduced to welcoming twitter polls from total strangers. "Desperate" doesn't quite describe this move. I am making a note of that.

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Wed Oct 5, 2022, 03:40 AM

21. I liked it better when Gates and Buffett alternated being the richest man in the world and we're BFF

Elon and Vlad as the battling duo for richest man and most evil man and paired up is a nightmare.

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Wed Oct 5, 2022, 05:48 AM

22. K & R

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Wed Oct 5, 2022, 03:53 PM

27. Musk needs a

kick in the Teslacles.

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Response to fanfanois (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 09:52 AM

28. BREAKING: Putin awards Elon Musk rank of colonel

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