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Thu Sep 29, 2022, 04:27 PM

'Incredibly alarming': Republican poll worker in Michigan charged with tampering voting equipment

Source: Raw Story

A Michigan poll worker has been charged after a witness saw him inserting a USB drive into an electronic poll book after the Aug. 2 statewide primary, the Detroit Free Press reports.

James Holkeboer, an election inspector at the Gaines Township 8th Precinct, has been charged with falsifying records under election law and using a computer to commit a crime.

As Detroit Free Press points out, poll books contain voter registration data that includes personal and confidential information that election workers use to oversee elections at their precincts.

Holkeboer registered with the county as a Republican, according to Michigan Radio. Detroit Free Press reported that "an individual with the same name served as an alternate delegate for the 3rd Congressional District at the Michigan Republican Party's State Endorsement Convention earlier this year."

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/amp/james-holkeboer-charged-2658360472?fbclid=IwAR3U7DU_AcRc50c3vdmJJ2uP7rPOOSrbcdsyl_kwUJ6qXcpkftgrnlG9hnM



Voter fraud? Republican.

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Reply 'Incredibly alarming': Republican poll worker in Michigan charged with tampering voting equipment (Original post)
James48 Sep 29 OP
onecaliberal Sep 29 #1
Kablooie Sep 29 #22
onecaliberal Sep 29 #23
SoCalDavidS Sep 29 #2
erronis Sep 29 #3
reACTIONary Sep 29 #11
mahina Sep 30 #36
erronis Sep 30 #39
TheRealNorth Sep 29 #4
James48 Sep 29 #5
Evolve Dammit Sep 29 #6
TheRealNorth Sep 29 #7
muriel_volestrangler Sep 30 #26
Evolve Dammit Sep 30 #32
pecosbob Sep 29 #8
LeftInTX Sep 29 #18
bluestarone Sep 29 #9
Roy Rolling Sep 29 #10
sybylla Sep 29 #20
JohnnyRingo Sep 30 #31
sybylla Sep 30 #35
JohnnyRingo Sep 30 #37
BadgerMom Sep 29 #12
Puppyjive Sep 29 #13
FakeNoose Sep 29 #16
AverageOldGuy Sep 29 #14
FakeNoose Sep 29 #17
LeftInTX Sep 29 #19
sybylla Sep 29 #21
Novara Sep 30 #28
Lonestarblue Sep 30 #30
Novara Sep 30 #33
Dentbla Sep 29 #15
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 29 #24
NullTuples Sep 30 #25
AZLD4Candidate Sep 30 #27
myohmy2 Sep 30 #29
DownriverDem Sep 30 #34
jmowreader Sep 30 #38
ck4829 Oct 3 #40

Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 04:29 PM

1. Election fraud, thy name is republican.

Last edited Thu Sep 29, 2022, 10:26 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 10:00 PM

22. Yeah but he only did it because the Democrats do it so much more!

The proof that Democrats rig all the elections is that no Democrats have ever been indicted, they get away with it. Only Republicans are arrested. How much more proof do you need?

(Republican logic for you)

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #22)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 10:23 PM

23. They have zero proof of us stealing an election. We have a Mt. Everest size mountain of evidence

The vast right wing conspiracy tried to overthrow the United States government. That is why dump lost his shit when the SS wouldnít take him to the Capitol. They were going to murder a lot of people.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 04:30 PM

2. Another Example Of The Rampant Voter Fraud TFG Warned Us About

I'm sure the repub party will hire him back once he gets out of prison. Assuming he even goes there.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 04:39 PM

3. Just inserting a USB device or even just a cable into a computer can cause a security risk

The perpetrator does not even need to type any commands on a console.

Unless the equipment has been locked down more than is usual, the USB device can actually start infiltrating commands into the equipment, acting like a live operator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BadUSB
https://hackaday.com/2019/02/18/wifi-hides-inside-a-usb-cable/



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Response to erronis (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 06:47 PM

11. True! +10!

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Response to erronis (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 04:50 PM

36. holy cats. so now what?

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Response to mahina (Reply #36)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 06:41 PM

39. I dunno. And since most thumb drives, etc. are made in China...

And many anti-virus products are made in Russia...

I'm feeling very vulnerable.

I'm religious about backups (and nothing else) but the evil-doers actually try to make backups unusable.

I'm not sure how to be 100% protected. Or even 80%.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 04:39 PM

4. Hope the Democratic Party has a plan.....

To monitor and verify the votes in some of these rural counties.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 04:44 PM

5. More

Last edited Thu Sep 29, 2022, 07:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Detroit Free Press has a longer article:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/09/29/james-holkeboer-charged-falsifying-records-election-usb/69525987007/

Itís always Republican trash.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 04:44 PM

6. She should be immediately arrested and charged with election tampering. WTF?

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:14 PM

7. IOKIYAR

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 03:04 AM

26. Who are you talking about? The OP is about a man who has already been charged

"with falsifying records under election law, a felony punishable by up to five years in prison and/or a $1,000 fine, and using a computer to commit a crime, a felony punishable by up to four years in prison and/or a $5,000 fine".

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #26)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 09:49 AM

32. He. Sorry. Must have been thinking about Ginni...

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:42 PM

8. It's not voter fraud...it's election fraud.

Two different crimes...

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 07:45 PM

18. Yes

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:47 PM

9. That's who they are! PLUS

The MSM should be SHOUTING this EVERY fn day! VOTER FRAUD by RETHUGLICONS. Show names every day!!

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 06:14 PM

10. No Doubt the Fraud is on the GOP Side

Democrats arenít election hackers. Nevertheless, that voter data is usually available for purchase by political candidates.

I campaigned once and had a legally-purchased (expansive) list. I donít know whatís in that particular Michigan poll database, but itís a crime nonetheless.

Also, there should be some security features that notify authorities if the system is used to access data. It shouldnít rely on someone catching a person in-the-act inserting a USB drive.

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Response to Roy Rolling (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 08:58 PM

20. This is an electronic poll book.

Election data is always public info in Wisconsin. I don't know about Michigan.

That said, Poll books are used to note who voted that day. Insertion of a usb device into an electronic poll book could have been used to change who voted or add voters so that ballot boxes/machines could be "stuffed" - meaning the ballot tally would match the voter tally in the poll book. Or it might have allowed someone who voted already to come back for a second vote after their first vote was reassigned to another registered voter who did not show - probably someone who is a registered Democrat.

This is absolutely election fraud.

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Response to sybylla (Reply #20)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 08:50 AM

31. Regardless... He needs to explain why he accessed the books.

What was on the flash drive? He shouldn't be allowed to answer "nothing" or it was an "accident". Neither excuse is a valid reason. There are no valid reasons.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #31)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 02:18 PM

35. You bet.

I was in no way arguing against that. I was clarifying the purpose of voter rolls, whether they are on paper or are electronic.

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Response to sybylla (Reply #35)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 05:25 PM

37. I get it

I knew what you meant. Just elaborating

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 07:11 PM

12. Party affiliation was not mentioned in the Reuters story this morning.

I read it and knew the perpetrator had to be Republican. What a crappy political party.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 07:13 PM

13. Did they tamper when Trump won?

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If I was a betting person, I was say yes. We can't go back that far.

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Response to Puppyjive (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 07:30 PM

16. Of course it happened but it can never be proven

That's why we need to be ever-vigilant. We have to catch them breaking the law.
Otherwise they get bolder each election.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 07:19 PM

14. Inserted a USB drive into a pollbook?

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I'm a long-time member of the three-member electoral board in my Virginia county -- rural, red county.

The pollbook is the paper book, paper computer print-out, the notebook computer, or the specially configured iPad that contains registration info on all voters in your area. When a voter comes to vote, the voter states name and address and shows ID. The Officer of Election looks up the voter, reads name, address back, makes certain this is the correct person, checks the voter in the pollbook as having voted, and gives the voter a ballot.

Because a USB drive was used, I assume they are using notebook computers as their pollbooks.

We replaced our clunky notebook computers with the PollPad -- it's a nifty pollbook -- check out this link:
[link:https://knowink.com/|https://knowink.com/
]

Inserting a drive into the notebook pollbook would allow the person to make a copy of all data in the notebook -- name, address, date of birth, social security number, party registration (if the state registers by party), and possibly all or part of the voters record (not for whom they voted, that's not in the pollbook, but the record of the elections in which the voter has voted).

When we had notebook computer pollbooks, we put a tamper-proof seal over the USB ports and our tech people configured the notebook to not recognize the USB port. With our new PollPads from KnowINK, we disable the wireless and have the PollPad and its companion printer configured to recognize only each other by MAC address.



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Response to AverageOldGuy (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 07:33 PM

17. +1000 should be happening everywhere

Thanks for this info!

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Response to AverageOldGuy (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 07:49 PM

19. I can see this guy erasing voter history

So his friends can vote twice

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #19)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 08:59 PM

21. Yep.

This is the same thought I had.

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Response to AverageOldGuy (Reply #14)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 06:05 AM

28. Thanks for this info. I have a question. And a theory.

If this person copied voter information onto a USB drive, then changed some of the information for reliably Democratic voters (such as in a black precinct), such as a digit on their street number or identification number, then uploaded it back and that person votes, then the information they attest to on election day - their real address and ID - doesn't match the poll book and their vote is then rendered invalid, is that correct? The voter would never know their vote was tossed and entire elections could be determined with this sort of election fraud.

See, I have a theory about the 2016 election when reports said the Russians accessed some 39 states' voter information electronically. Forensic investigations were not done, yet they said the Russians didn't do anything; they just accessed the voter rolls. Well, why the hell would you go to all the trouble to hack into a system, then back out and walk away? My theory is that they changed little things, like the spelling of a name or a street number or an ID number, so that certain voter's votes were deemed invalid. That voter would never know the vote didn't count. Remember how the experts broke down the voting after the 2016 election and some of it made absolutely no sense? Like solid blue areas suddenly voting for the orange asshole? Forensic investigations were not done so we have no idea what the Russians did when they breached systems in 39 states. They may have tossed in some changes like tossing a few tacks across a road, and just enough tires were pierced and just enough votes were deemed invalid to swing the election in PA, MI, and WI. I remember how close these states were, and it didn't make sense.

And please, people, let's call it what it is: ELECTION FRAUD. This is not voter fraud.

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Response to Novara (Reply #28)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 08:19 AM

30. The Michigan vote especially seemed problematic as thousands of voters chose no one

for president. Why take the time to vote and then fail to vote for president? Erasing a few thousand of these votes and adding a few thousand more for Stein would have easily switched the election to Trump. I have never understood why no forensic study was done of at least a sampling of records in key states.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #30)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 10:30 AM

33. What pissed me off was ...

... all the assertions that yeah, Russia hacked into voter rolls in 39 states but they didn't touch the data, and no, we didn't do a forensic investigation to actually verify that they didn't touch the data. Then how can they assert that the data wasn't compromised?? The actual election didn't need to be hacked, but insert enough landmines in the voter rolls, and votes don't count. Nobody tried to find out.

Right, in the first election where a woman was on the presidential ballot, people didn't cast a vote for president but they did for others downballot? Maybe a few people did that. I remember people saying they couldn't vote for either one. But significant numbers?

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 07:26 PM

15. and?

Is this surprising?

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2022, 10:32 PM

24. Of course it's a Republican that did it.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 12:05 AM

25. Dominion voting systems, again

Now, if I was the paranoid type I'd say that when the Arizona audit happened and Republicans made off essentially with the entire voting system and took it up to Montana, maybe they did so to work on exploits. And maybe this guy was part of a wave of early users of the tool they created. Good thing I'm not paranoid though, 'cause that would be exhausting.

Someone is going to do full forensics on that thumb drive...right? Like, before they do anything else with it?

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 03:45 AM

27. Republicans hammer about voter fraud when they commit copious amounts of election fraud

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 06:54 AM

29. better...

...fix it...

...if people lose faith in the validity and sanctity of their elections all bets are off...

...republicans...

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 12:57 PM

34. Michigan doesn't register

by party. Not sure what this means.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 06:38 PM

38. I had another thought

During the Cyber Ninja Fiasco there were instances when Repukes would knock on peopleís doors and demand to know how they voted. Having a poll book would sure make voter intimidation of that nature easier.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Oct 3, 2022, 06:45 AM

40. Kick

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