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Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:28 PM

Secret Service held onto Pelosi threat until after insurrection

Source: CREW

The Secret Service knew of a threat to Nancy Pelosi on January 6th days before the insurrection, but did not pass it along until hours after the Capitol had been breached, according to Secret Service emails obtained by CREW.

On January 4, Secret Service agents discovered a Parler account, which we’ve chosen not to name, posting a series of violent threats towards lawmakers. Other profiles with the same name appeared on Twitter, MeWe, Bitchute, Youtube and Facebook.

On December 31, the account posted, “January 6 starts #1776 all over again…Fight for EVERYTHING” and listed “Enemies,” including Pelosi. At 5:55 pm on January 6, after hours of defending the United States Capitol from a violent mob, the United States Capitol Police received the post along with a message from the Secret Service:

“Good afternoon, The US Secret Service is passing notification to the US Capitol Police regarding discovery of a social media threat directed toward Speaker Nancy Pelosi.”
The language used by the account, as we’ve now seen repeated in recordings released by the January 6th Committee, is a clear call for a violent overthrow of the American government on January 6, 2021.



Read more: https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/secret-service-held-onto-pelosi-threat-until-after-insurrection/

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Reply Secret Service held onto Pelosi threat until after insurrection (Original post)
Novara Aug 17 OP
CentralMass Aug 17 #1
Wicked Blue Aug 17 #9
DENVERPOPS Aug 17 #18
Quanto Magnus Aug 17 #32
ificandream Aug 17 #2
Lasher Aug 17 #4
ret5hd Aug 17 #10
Submariner Aug 17 #12
Scalded Nun Aug 17 #3
Novara Aug 17 #5
Turbineguy Aug 17 #6
Novara Aug 17 #7
niyad Aug 17 #8
Cozmo Aug 17 #11
forgotmylogin Aug 17 #13
Novara Aug 17 #17
forgotmylogin Aug 17 #27
Novara Aug 17 #29
EndlessWire Aug 17 #33
yardwork Aug 18 #41
JustAnotherGen Aug 17 #14
LiberalLovinLug Aug 17 #15
ancianita Aug 18 #45
LiberalLovinLug Aug 18 #47
GreenWave Aug 17 #16
judesedit Aug 17 #19
irisblue Aug 17 #20
irisblue Aug 17 #21
24601 Aug 18 #46
Novara Aug 18 #37
irisblue Aug 18 #38
Novara Aug 18 #39
bringthePaine Aug 17 #22
iluvtennis Aug 17 #23
LetMyPeopleVote Aug 17 #24
liberal N proud Aug 17 #25
padah513 Aug 17 #26
2naSalit Aug 17 #28
NBachers Aug 17 #30
SleeplessinSoCal Aug 17 #31
hamsterjill Aug 17 #34
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 17 #35
Kid Berwyn Aug 17 #36
myohmy2 Aug 18 #40
Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 18 #42
Evolve Dammit Aug 18 #43
Heather MC Aug 18 #44

Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:30 PM

1. It sounds like a thorough investigation and house cleaning is required.

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:13 PM

9. Exactly

And heads have to roll.

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:05 PM

18. Very difficult

they have no idea how far the Secret Service, DOJ, FBI Capitol Police, DC Police, National Guards, Military commanders and including the entire Military, etc etc etc have been infiltrated.....Absolutely no idea......

"All standing back and standing by" per Trump

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 03:50 PM

32. I was going

to say the same exact thing!

cheers!

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:35 PM

2. So they knew of these things and took no action?

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Response to ificandream (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:54 PM

4. My guess is, they knew of a lot of things and took no action.

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Response to Lasher (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:14 PM

10. They took action.

The action being to purposefully withhold/conceal information that was vital to the welfare of the nation.

I wonder if there is a word for that?

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Response to ificandream (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:22 PM

12. Remember. They are ALL MAGAsecret service

screened and approved based on loyalty, including hating who and what he hates.

He had super loyal Reichstag style SS being him at every turn loving his autocracy.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:52 PM

3. I am not sure if a house cleaning is enough.

I have personally thought since TFG left that the entire house needs to be leveled and rebuilt. Even then there are risks, but for now I do not so how a single SS agent can be trusted. I am sure that is unfair to the dedicated ones, but how much risk can you accept when dealing with the security of this country and its leaders.
I would not be surprised if SS agents helped carry those documents to Mar-A-Lago (and maybe even helped pick out the good docs).

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:56 PM

5. There's more:

Newly revealed emails show Secret Service was warned about Jan. 6 threat to Pence — but failed to act

Newly revealed emails show the U.S. Secret Service received urgent warnings that vice president Mike Pence's life was in danger from right-wing extremists.

Communications obtained by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington show that in the days before January 6, 2021, the Secret Service and other law enforcement agencies were concerned that Donald Trump supporters planned to bring weapons to the U.S. Capitol with the intention of causing violence. But the watchdog group said the agency did not appear to take the threat seriously.

“It’s gonna get violent as we charge the federal buildings and drag out corrupt politicians dead or alive!” read one post shared with the Secret Services and other agencies before the insurrection, while another clearly specified their chief target: “F*ck pence sellout traitor we better see him coming out that building in handcuffs or were [sic] going in.”


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"These documents show government law enforcement receiving clear warnings of the violence bound for DC on January 6," CREW wrote. "The Secret Service was fully aware that the Trump supporters coming posed a real threat of violence, particularly against Mike Pence, including the possibility of an assault on the Capitol. What they do not show is why the Secret Service downplayed the danger and threats of violence on January 6."


Yeah, we know why.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:03 PM

6. When I supervised people

it was nice if they did what they needed to do, without being told.

Trump seems to have that relationship with the Secret Service.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:09 PM

7. Or maybe someone gave the order

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:11 PM

8. clean house, from bottom to top.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:14 PM

11. Hey, ya want to defund an agency, how about the Secret Service?

They got a bunch of fascists in that group. I just hope Biden and family are safe with these people.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:29 PM

13. I know this is a sketchy situation, but Devil's Advocate:

The Secret Service likely got all kinds of Intel and chatter about angry people saying all kinds of things about what might happen that day and could have been constructively hoping and expecting the event wouldn't be more than a demonstration/protest on the steps with signs and yelling. Once the Capitol was breached, they warned Pelosi.

Is it possible they didn't want to concern her until there was actual physical danger? Especially if they were expecting the crowd would be controlled and there wouldn't be any contact between congress and demonstrators?

The Capitol on regular days is quite secure, so they may not have had reason for specific alarm about Pelosi or anyone's physical safety until the doors were breached.

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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #13)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:56 PM

17. If that was the case there would be no need to conceal texts from that day.

It's clear they weren't operating in good faith.

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Response to Novara (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:59 PM

27. That makes total sense.

And likely there would be texts saying "Let's not involve the Speaker unless conditions actually become hazardous."

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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #27)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 03:11 PM

29. That's logical

But now we know they were warned of specific threats and they did nothing, so the missing texts are more ominous.

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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #13)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 03:57 PM

33. Until the doors were breached?

She should have been notified and hustled to the safe spot as soon as they started up the steps. The presumption that the crowd would be controlled was a big raspberry at that point. This was not an ordinary event, and somebody dropped the ball here.

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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 18, 2022, 08:06 AM

41. That's not how it works.

There's a standard protocol for reporting serious threats directed at leaders. The Secret Service is responsible for maintaining that protocol.

This is profoundly troubling. If we can't trust the Secret Service, who can we trust?

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:32 PM

14. Anyone who received

Processed and was required to act upon that intelligence -

Needs to be fired by 5 PM today.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:39 PM

15. How do SS agents get promoted to serve the President?

Is it an internal advancement? Regardless of who is President? Or does the President himself....and others that use the SS for protection....get to chose from a selection? Where they get to ask them all kinds of personal questions, including what party they vote for? And beyond that...even to filter the more radical supporters to serve for them?

Even to replace the director of the SS so that he also will only advance the agents that are MAGAts, for instance?

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:19 AM

45. There are book sources and explanations here, if you want to check them out.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216982212


Know that Obama, Trump and Biden -- as probably most other presidents -- chose their own protection details. Now President Biden has chosen the same team he'd had under Obama.

Here are locations for their training, with the first being specialized training for the White House

ERT — Emergency Response Team -- specialized training out of Fort Carson, CO -- for WH president and VP protectees

FLETC — Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, in Glencoe, GA, first leg of all SS training

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Response to ancianita (Reply #45)

Thu Aug 18, 2022, 04:52 PM

47. Thanks!

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:46 PM

16. Don't forget that Big Foot in her office

Had a death weapon that did not just stun, it could kill. Why isn't he locked up for bringing a deadly stun gun into her office? He didn't bring it along as a backscratcher.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:08 PM

19. Those involved should be put on administrative leave until their status

is determined - innocent or complicit. Hard to imagine any of them are innocent, though, imho

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:11 PM

20. Any Speaker of the House or President Pro Tempore is not regularly covered

succession coverage list
Order of Presidential Succession

Vice President. Speaker of the House. President Pro Tempore of the Senate. Secretary of State
source-https://www.usa.gov/presidents


From the Secret Service website
https://www.secretservice.gov/about/faq/general


snip"Who is the Secret Service authorized to protect?
By law, the Secret Service is authorized to protect:

The president, the vice president, (or other individuals next in order of succession to the Office of the President), the president-elect and vice president-elect

The immediate families of the above individuals
Former presidents, their spouses, except when the spouse re-marries

Children of former presidents until age 16

Visiting heads of foreign states or governments and their spouses traveling with them, other distinguished foreign visitors to the United States, and official representatives of the United States performing special missions abroad

Major presidential and vice presidential candidates, and their spouses within 120 days of a general presidential election

Other individuals as designated per Executive Order of the President and
National Special Security Events, when designated as such by the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security



to quote Mal Reynolds 'Huh'

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Response to irisblue (Reply #20)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:18 PM

21. Leahy of Vt was pro tempore & present that day.

Source-https://vtdigger.org/2022/01/06/on-senate-floor-leahy-recalls-shock-of-jan-6-attack-says-trump-must-be-held-accountable/


snip-Leahy recalled seeing a man standing several feet away from him wearing a vest that read “police” and holding a submachine gun. The senator had never seen anything like that in the legislative chamber before, he said.

As police ushered lawmakers into a secure area, Leahy said one officer grabbed his arm and said, “We’re going to watch out for you, Shamrock.”

That line stuck with him because “Shamrock” was the code name police gave him when he was sent a letter containing anthrax during an attack in 2001, he said."

more there.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #21)

Thu Aug 18, 2022, 04:45 PM

46. Senator Grassley was President pro tempore on 6 January and until 20 January 2021

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Response to irisblue (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 18, 2022, 06:55 AM

37. You're missing the point.

The SS, having received a threat to the Speaker, needed to pass this information on to the Capitol police, whose job it is to keep the Speaker and all other congresspeople safe. They did not do that.

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Response to Novara (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 18, 2022, 06:58 AM

38. I know what the Sec Service **should** have done

I was also suprised to learn that the Sec Service did NOT cover the 3rd & 4th successors.
When I learned that the SecService does not cover those, I thought to share that info with other DUers.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #38)

Thu Aug 18, 2022, 07:38 AM

39. Understood

Lots of people assume the SS should also protect the Speaker.

Their job here was to inform those who do protect her and they did not do that. The entire department needs to be cleaned out top to bottom.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:27 PM

22. utter bullshit from the SS - add the horseshit phone wiping, and its time to reassess entire thing

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:33 PM

23. OMG- this is DISGUSTING. At a minimum, Nancy Pelosi's security detail should have been notified. nt

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:34 PM

24. This is scary

This is disturbing


https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/secret-service-held-onto-pelosi-threat-until-after-insurrection/

The Secret Service knew of a threat to Nancy Pelosi on January 6th days before the insurrection, but did not pass it along until hours after the Capitol had been breached, according to Secret Service emails obtained by CREW.

On January 4, Secret Service agents discovered a Parler account, which we’ve chosen not to name, posting a series of violent threats towards lawmakers. Other profiles with the same name appeared on Twitter, MeWe, Bitchute, Youtube and Facebook.

On December 31, the account posted, “January 6 starts #1776 all over again…Fight for EVERYTHING” and listed “Enemies,” including Pelosi. At 5:55 pm on January 6, after hours of defending the United States Capitol from a violent mob, the United States Capitol Police received the post along with a message from the Secret Service:

“Good afternoon, The US Secret Service is passing notification to the US Capitol Police regarding discovery of a social media threat directed toward Speaker Nancy Pelosi.”

The language used by the account, as we’ve now seen repeated in recordings released by the January 6th Committee, is a clear call for a violent overthrow of the American government on January 6, 2021.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:35 PM

25. I think the Secret Service needs to clean house

Something is rotten

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:47 PM

26. Charge a couple of them with the promise jail time

Somebody will tell you everything you need to know

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 03:03 PM

28. Oooh, that's really bad.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 03:16 PM

30. They'd have been back-slapping and high-fiving if she'd been murdered.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 03:38 PM

31. Cleaning house here is a golden opportunity to expose radicals in all our service sectors.

Police, military, FBI, etc. By making this a priority, it will also expose the dangers without even naming TFG. He will just be stripped of his muscle. AND we will all rest easier knowing that our security is actually pro Constitution. And democracy.

The other challenge is in taking back democracy as an ideal that is at the heart of our republic.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 04:16 PM

34. It sounds like the Secret Service is compromised.

They seem to be Trumpers in my view when they are supposed to be neutral.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 08:02 PM

35. Former US attorney calls for 'full investigation' after report Secret Service failed to share Pelosi

threat

A former U.S. Attorney is calling for a full investigation into the U.S. Secret Service’s failure to share intelligence it had detailing a violent threat against Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats.

“This is deeply disturbing,” says Joyce Vance, who is now a law professor and MSNBC/NBC News legal analyst. She says it “requires a full investigation.”

“The Capitol Police are responsible for protecting the Speaker,” Vance continues. “If true” that the U.S. Secret Service “failed to pass on intelligence about threats, that’s very alarming.”

Vance points to a new report from Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) that finds the Secret Service discovered a violent social media based threat on January 4, 2021, two days before the insurrection, but did not share that intelligence with the Capitol Police until nearly 6 PM ET on January 6.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-us-attorney-calls-for-full-investigation-after-report-secret-service-failed-to-share-pelosi-threat/ar-AA10LWSU

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2022, 08:07 PM

36. Treason as RICO

The mob knew where to look.
Offices were missing emergency panic buttons.
Democratic leaders were targeted for violence.
Those charged with their protection did nothing.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2022, 07:54 AM

40. +1...

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2022, 09:23 AM

42. Dig into this mess and guess whose fingerprints

we'll find? I predict DJT..............

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2022, 09:41 AM

43. "Good Afternoon"????? Who the fuck sends a message like that on that day with that content??

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:15 AM

44. The Secret service is always behaved like a gang of thugs

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