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Fri Aug 5, 2022, 07:43 PM

California DMV accuses Tesla of falsely advertising Autopilot and Full Self-Driving features

Source: LA Times

RUSS MITCHELL AUG. 5, 2022

The California Department of Motor Vehicles has accused Tesla of false advertising in its promotion of the company’s signature Autopilot and Full Self-Driving technologies.

The agency alleges the electric-car maker misled customers with advertising language on its website describing Autopilot and Full Self-Driving technologies as more capable than they actually are.

The company “made or disseminated statements that are untrue or misleading, and not based on facts,” the DMV said in a pair of complaints filed with the state Office of Administrative Hearings on July 28.

The DMV complaints point to the very names of the technologies, as well as other “misleading” language such as the following, which appears on the Tesla website’s Autopilot page:

Read more: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-08-05/dmv-false-advertising-tesla

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Caribbeans Aug 5 OP
SunSeeker Aug 5 #1
BigmanPigman Aug 5 #2
LudwigPastorius Saturday #3
paleotn Saturday #6
Caribbeans Saturday #4
speak easy Saturday #8
NullTuples Saturday #5
paleotn Saturday #7
ck4829 Monday #9

Response to Caribbeans (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:19 PM

1. K & R

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Response to Caribbeans (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:40 PM

2. A person was photographed sound asleep while on the freeway

while on autopilot. This was at 6:30 AM so the guy was napping while driving. Not cool!

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Response to Caribbeans (Original post)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:18 AM

3. I would allow Tesla to call its driver-assist "full self-driving" on the condition that...

they use it (with no human in the driver's seat) to go from the Santa Monica pier, through downtown L.A., to Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Newark, Manhattan, all the way to Montauk...with Musk in the back seat.

If he survives, the company can evade prosecution for false advertising.

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Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:02 AM

6. Bingo!

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Response to Caribbeans (Original post)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:45 AM

4. NHTSA investigates Tesla crashes that killed 2 motorcyclists

In both cases, the cars drove into the motorcycles from behind at night



AP | Aug 5th 2022 @3:10PM

Two crashes involving Teslas apparently running on Autopilot are drawing scrutiny from federal regulators and point to a potential new hazard on U.S. freeways: The partially automated vehicles may not stop for motorcycles.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration sent investigation teams to two crashes last month in which Teslas collided with motorcycles on freeways in the darkness. Both were fatal.

The agency suspects that Tesla's partially automated driver-assist system was in use in each. The agency says that once it gathers more information, it may include the crashes in a broader probe of Teslas striking emergency vehicles parked along freeways. NHTSA also is investigating over 750 complaints that Teslas can brake for no reason.

The first crash involving a motorcyclist happened at 4:47 a.m. July 7 on State Route 91, a freeway in Riverside, California. A Tesla Model Y SUV was traveling east in the high occupancy vehicle lane. Ahead of it was a rider on a Yamaha V-Star motorcycle, the California Highway Patrol said in a statement...more
https://www.autoblog.com/2022/08/05/tesla-fatal-motorcycle-crashes/

“It's pretty clear to me, and it should be to a lot of Tesla owners by now, this stuff isn't working properly and it's not going to live up to the expectations, and it is putting innocent people in danger on the roads," Brooks said.


Yet the NTSB and NHTSA do nothing...Maybe fElon has pictures of the admins in Tijuana at a donkey bar

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Response to Caribbeans (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 01:11 PM

8. How many accidents have Tesla drivers been involved in

with the driver-assist system on, versus having it off?

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Response to Caribbeans (Original post)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 01:34 AM

5. Two observations:

For many years, Tesla locked customers into free maintenance in return for not reporting failures to the DOT.

Second, how is it that US Supreme Court blessed corporate persons can repeatedly kill people with cars and still keep their license. The only trouble they seem to get in is private lawsuits. I mean, they don't even lose their license after X points.

Seems a bit...unfair, you know?

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Response to Caribbeans (Original post)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:16 AM

7. Marketing the Musk fever dream....

Sorry, but the computing power doesn't yet exist to allow autonomous vehicles to be any better, and sometimes worse, than human judgement, flawed as that is. Someday, maybe, but not yet.

Musk and his minions are like 12 year old boys in mom's basement going.."wouldn't it be cool if (insert technological impossibility at this time or in this physical universe)"

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Response to Caribbeans (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:09 AM

9. K&R

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