Sat Jul 30, 2022, 02:56 PM

Lasher (25,886 posts)

Sinema indicates she may want to change Schumer-Manchin deal

Source: Axios

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) had a message for her Democratic colleagues before she flew home to Arizona for the weekend: She's preserving her options.

Why it matters: Sinema has leverage and she knows it. Any potential modification to the Democrat's climate and deficit reduction package — like knocking out the $14 billion provision on carried interest — could cause the fragile deal to collapse.

Her posture is causing something between angst and fear in the Democratic caucus as senators wait for her to render a verdict on the secret deal announced by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Sen. Joe Manchin last Thursday.

Driving the news: Sinema has given no assurances to colleagues that she’ll vote along party lines in the so-called “vote-a-rama” for the $740 billion bill next week, according to people familiar with the matter.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/2022/07/30/sinema-schumer-manchin-deal-democrats

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Sinema indicates she may want to change Schumer-Manchin deal (Original post)	Lasher	Jul 2022	OP
I hope she's enjoyed...	SergeStorms	Jul 2022	#1
yeah she's always been in this to sell her votes and line up the lobbying job afterwards	Takket	Jul 2022	#3
Agreed. Talk about not living up to the office. She's made a...	brush	Jul 2022	#6
As a Senator, has Sinema ever STOOD FOR ANYTHING?	Eyeball_Kid	Jul 2022	#14
Changing to year round DST	AZLD4Candidate	Jul 2022	#24
We in AZ are going to primary her ass as soon as we can!	AZLD4Candidate	Jul 2022	#23
I hope so!	FakeNoose	Jul 2022	#32
I just hope republicans don't play games and change registration and vote for her	jimfields33	Jul 2022	#68
Who is	Rebl2	Jul 2022	#52
Raul Grijalva has been asked to run by many in AZ.	vsrazdem	Jul 2022	#63
Try 7 figure	bermudat	Jul 2022	#83
That ONE phucking person can literally kill democracy has got to phucking STOP	NotHardly	Jul 2022	#86
Restore democracy -- abolish the filibuster. n/t	LastLiberal in PalmSprings	Aug 2022	#89
Here we go.	durablend	Jul 2022	#2
I don't understand why she wasn't included in the Schumer/Manchin talks.	femmedem	Jul 2022	#7
I have no confidence that she would bargain in good faith if included.	Mister Ed	Jul 2022	#8
Then why even try to make a deal?!! What's the	mucifer	Jul 2022	#11
Who knows?	Mister Ed	Jul 2022	#16
Just need one billionaire to pay her off	mucifer	Jul 2022	#41
Frankly, given his recent past,	Mr.Bill	Jul 2022	#27
No one was included. Sinema would have run to turtle and spilled the beans causing the CHIPS	PortTack	Jul 2022	#12
That's probably the answer right there. n/t	Mister Ed	Jul 2022	#17
Yep	duckworth969	Jul 2022	#44
I think you're right.	femmedem	Jul 2022	#45
Yup...	2naSalit	Jul 2022	#77
it's pretty clear	qazplm135	Jul 2022	#28
Agree with your analysis. nt	BootinUp	Jul 2022	#46
Yes, I think you are correct.	femmedem	Jul 2022	#47
Because she and manchin are playing a game	quakerboy	Jul 2022	#88
I hate her. I knew she would do this . Someone is paying her off greedy and evil	mucifer	Jul 2022	#4
I may be a little too optimistic but	agingdem	Jul 2022	#42
You might be right. Manchin really is a much more competent	comradebillyboy	Jul 2022	#48
Manchin has been a "red line" drawer since Biden became president.	LastLiberal in PalmSprings	Jul 2022	#53
Without those two Democratic senators Mitch McConnel would	comradebillyboy	Jul 2022	#54
I agree...	agingdem	Jul 2022	#65
No need to go there.	intheflow	Jul 2022	#81
Hating someone is like drinking poison	tavernier	Jul 2022	#60
Will gladly donate to Raul Grijalva's campaign to primary Sinema.	aeromanKC	Jul 2022	#5
fuck sinema	markie	Jul 2022	#9
I am so effing sick of these two	wryter2000	Jul 2022	#10
Only if we keep the house	mucifer	Jul 2022	#13
Very true about getting anything done	wryter2000	Jul 2022	#19
There's Lucy grabbing the football again	IronLionZion	Jul 2022	#15
☝🏾THIS☝🏾	Eugene	Jul 2022	#38
This is why we need a +2 Democratic controlled Senate.	sarcasmo	Jul 2022	#18
We can do it	wryter2000	Jul 2022	#20
Sinema is a middle school mean girl...	agingdem	Jul 2022	#21
Definitely out of her league	Mme. Defarge	Jul 2022	#25
Literally nobody expects anything from this Congress	greenjar_01	Jul 2022	#22
She is jealous that Manchin is the hero!!	riversedge	Jul 2022	#26
Why won't 1 R step up so we don't have to deal with this yoyo	RANDYWILDMAN	Jul 2022	#29
Drama Queens crave drama.	jalan48	Jul 2022	#30
Of course.	LudwigPastorius	Jul 2022	#31
The thing this clip doesn't show is her tapping McConnell on the shoulder to get him to watch her	wackadoo wabbit	Jul 2022	#72
Make. Her. Vote.	CincyDem	Jul 2022	#33
bad Dem, bad Dem	Marthe48	Jul 2022	#34
"Former Mormon" absolutely wouldn't shit in the punch bowl. She promises with a crossed heart.	czarjak	Jul 2022	#35
she doesn't represent the people of Arizona	YoshidaYui	Jul 2022	#36
Ugh...	druidity33	Jul 2022	#37
She's an evil piece of crap.	Sky Jewels	Jul 2022	#39
When was this ever not going to happen? nt	prodigitalson	Jul 2022	#40
No sh*t, sherlock.	elleng	Jul 2022	#43
Entirely predictable. Not happy with Schumer.	Raven123	Jul 2022	#49
As with the passing of Obamacare,	FoxNewsSucks	Jul 2022	#50
Figures	Rebl2	Jul 2022	#51
So maybe a couple of Republicans will break for it? Not sure who.	ancianita	Jul 2022	#55
I just can't. I just fucking CAN'T!	dchill	Jul 2022	#56
+ 1	RamblingRose	Jul 2022	#59
Oh no	867-5309.	Jul 2022	#57
after talking to her lobbyists pals for the last few days, now she finally speaks	Mr. Sparkle	Jul 2022	#58
Kyrsten, we hardly knew ye.	Marcuse	Jul 2022	#61
Gee whiz--Whenever she starts preserving her options, Dems wind up in somebody else's	Backseat Driver	Jul 2022	#62
Hey Sinema, there are millions of seniors on Medicare, do you know how many there are in	turbinetree	Jul 2022	#64
She should be flat out told that if she tanks this bill	dsc	Jul 2022	#66
I think she's 'Mental'.. n/t	TeamProg	Jul 2022	#67
The perfect word to call her	Karma13612	Jul 2022	#69
Sigh. Holding my tongue.	Joinfortmill	Jul 2022	#70
She wants to be relevant for the last time she ever will be.	ColinC	Jul 2022	#71
Exactly	Demovictory9	Aug 2022	#95
someone's check just cleared the bank.	ZonkerHarris	Jul 2022	#73
This was predictable.	live love laugh	Jul 2022	#74
What group tilts her power or re-election? Who buys her votes?	CountMyVote4Reality	Jul 2022	#75
I love how nowadays you can can be so openly bought off and corrupt. No need to even	Carlitos Brigante	Jul 2022	#76
We want to celebrate her change to civilian life	Historic NY	Jul 2022	#78
She has already lost her seat to an unnamed Democrat	Roisin Ni Fiachra	Jul 2022	#79
Not getting enough attention Kyrsten?	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Jul 2022	#80
I'm just gonna say it:	Paul Eeez	Jul 2022	#84
sure...	myohmy2	Jul 2022	#82
Who gives her permission to "rule" the country?	SuperCoder	Jul 2022	#85
Any bets	The Wizard	Jul 2022	#87
Sinema	Ladythatvotesblue	Aug 2022	#90
The Biden hating democratic senator said what?	newdayneeded	Aug 2022	#91
Cluster B Nightmare	NoodleyAppendage	Aug 2022	#92
She was invited to discussions but decided not to join.	Kablooie	Aug 2022	#93
Axios and Politico ought to be designated as Retrumplican propaganda	maxrandb	Aug 2022	#94
As a human being, I resent her.	dchill	Aug 2022	#96
I think it gets done	Johnny2X2X	Aug 2022	#97

Response to Lasher (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:01 PM

SergeStorms (18,185 posts)

1. I hope she's enjoyed...

her one any only term as a Senator.

She doesn't really care though. She probably has a nice 6 figure job all lined up with the pharmaceutical industry, her benefactors.

Sinema indicates she may want to change Schumer-Manchin deal

1. I hope she's enjoyed...

3. yeah she's always been in this to sell her votes and line up the lobbying job afterwards

6. Agreed. Talk about not living up to the office. She's made a...

14. As a Senator, has Sinema ever STOOD FOR ANYTHING?

24. Changing to year round DST

23. We in AZ are going to primary her ass as soon as we can!

32. I hope so!

68. I just hope republicans don't play games and change registration and vote for her

52. Who is

63. Raul Grijalva has been asked to run by many in AZ.

83. Try 7 figure

86. That ONE phucking person can literally kill democracy has got to phucking STOP

89. Restore democracy -- abolish the filibuster. n/t

2. Here we go.

7. I don't understand why she wasn't included in the Schumer/Manchin talks.

8. I have no confidence that she would bargain in good faith if included.

11. Then why even try to make a deal?!! What's the

16. Who knows?

41. Just need one billionaire to pay her off

27. Frankly, given his recent past,

12. No one was included. Sinema would have run to turtle and spilled the beans causing the CHIPS

17. That's probably the answer right there. n/t

44. Yep

45. I think you're right.

77. Yup...

28. it's pretty clear

46. Agree with your analysis. nt

47. Yes, I think you are correct.

88. Because she and manchin are playing a game

4. I hate her. I knew she would do this . Someone is paying her off greedy and evil

42. I may be a little too optimistic but

48. You might be right. Manchin really is a much more competent

53. Manchin has been a "red line" drawer since Biden became president.

54. Without those two Democratic senators Mitch McConnel would

65. I agree...

81. No need to go there.

60. Hating someone is like drinking poison

5. Will gladly donate to Raul Grijalva's campaign to primary Sinema.

9. fuck sinema

10. I am so effing sick of these two

13. Only if we keep the house

19. Very true about getting anything done

15. There's Lucy grabbing the football again

38. ☝🏾THIS☝🏾

18. This is why we need a +2 Democratic controlled Senate.

20. We can do it

21. Sinema is a middle school mean girl...

25. Definitely out of her league

22. Literally nobody expects anything from this Congress

26. She is jealous that Manchin is the hero!!

29. Why won't 1 R step up so we don't have to deal with this yoyo

30. Drama Queens crave drama.

31. Of course.

72. The thing this clip doesn't show is her tapping McConnell on the shoulder to get him to watch her

33. Make. Her. Vote.

34. bad Dem, bad Dem

35. "Former Mormon" absolutely wouldn't shit in the punch bowl. She promises with a crossed heart.

36. she doesn't represent the people of Arizona

37. Ugh...

39. She's an evil piece of crap.

40. When was this ever not going to happen? nt

43. No sh*t, sherlock.

49. Entirely predictable. Not happy with Schumer.

50. As with the passing of Obamacare,

51. Figures

55. So maybe a couple of Republicans will break for it? Not sure who.

56. I just can't. I just fucking CAN'T!

59. + 1

57. Oh no

58. after talking to her lobbyists pals for the last few days, now she finally speaks

61. Kyrsten, we hardly knew ye.

62. Gee whiz--Whenever she starts preserving her options, Dems wind up in somebody else's

64. Hey Sinema, there are millions of seniors on Medicare, do you know how many there are in

66. She should be flat out told that if she tanks this bill

67. I think she's 'Mental'.. n/t

69. The perfect word to call her

70. Sigh. Holding my tongue.

71. She wants to be relevant for the last time she ever will be.

95. Exactly