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UPDATE: At least 50 injured and multiple people killed when Amtrak train derails in Missouri

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Source: CNN

(CNN) There are multiple fatalities and at least 50 people who were injured after an Amtrak train derailed Monday in Missouri, Eric McKenzie, the superintendent with Chariton County Ambulance Service, told CNN. Amtrak said in a statement the train collided with a dump truck at a public crossing near the city of Mendon at about 1:42 p.m. CT.

Eight cars and two locomotives left the track "after striking a truck that was obstructing a public crossing near Mendon, Missouri," company officials said in an updated statement. Amtrak had said earlier that there were approximately 243 passengers and 12 crew members onboard the train. Three people are being taken to University Hospital in Columbia, according to a hospital spokesperson. The conditions of the patients is unknown.

Robert Nightingale, a passenger with a sleeper car, said he was taking a nap when he heard something. "It all happened like slow motion. It started to rock and, and rock, and then flicker, and then it just all of a sudden -- all this dust was through my window," Nightingale, who is from Taos, New Mexico, told CNN. He said the train fell over on the side that his compartment was on.

Nightingale, who was not injured, said he couldn't get through the window, which was blocked by dirt, so he grabbed his backpack and climbed into the hallway. Then he moved into a neighboring room where he found a way to climb out and onto the side of the train.
He said some people helped others reach the ground where he and others walked to the front of the train. He said the truck looked like it had big boulders in it. "It hit something major to cause ... every car to go off," he said. Mendon is about 100 miles northeast of Kansas City. The train was traveling from Los Angeles to Chicago.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/27/us/missouri-amtrak-train-derailment/index.html



Full headline: At least 50 injured and multiple people killed when Amtrak train derails in Missouri after hitting dump truck

Original article and original headline -

Passenger train derails near Kansas City, Missouri, after hitting dump truck


(CNN) Several people were hurt when an Amtrak train derailed in Missouri, according to a statement by the passenger rail company.

The company said the train struck a dump truck at a public crossing near the city of Mendon at about 1:42 p.m. CT.
"There are approximately 243 passengers onboard with early reports of injuries," company officials said. "Local authorities are currently assisting customers and we have deployed Amtrak resources to assist."

Chillicothe Fire Department Chief Eric Reeter confirmed the derailment and said his department is on standby should authorities need them to assist. No other details were available. Mendon is about 100 miles northeast of Kansas City. The train was traveling from Los Angeles to Chicago.

The collision was the second in two days in which an Amtrak train hit a passenger vehicle. On Sunday, 85 passengers were on board a train in rural California that hit a vehicle. Three people were killed and two people suffered major injuries, according to officials. All of the victims were in the vehicle, the officials added.


This is a developing story and will be updated.


Update article and update headline -

Amtrak train with 243 passengers derails in Missouri after hitting dump truck

(CNN) Several people were hurt when an Amtrak train derailed in Missouri, according to the passenger rail company. The company said the train struck a dump truck at a public crossing near the city of Mendon at about 1:42 p.m. CT. "There are approximately 243 passengers onboard with early reports of injuries," company officials said in a statement.

"Local authorities are currently assisting customers and we have deployed Amtrak resources to assist." Three people are being taken to University Hospital in Columbia, according to a hospital spokesperson. The conditions of the patients is unknown. Robert Nightingale, a passenger with a sleeper car, said he was taking a nap when he heard something.

"It all happened like slow motion. It started to rock and, and rock, and then flicker, and then it just all of a sudden -- all this dust was through my window," Nightingale, who is from Taos, New Mexico, told CNN. He said the train fell over on the side that his compartment was on. Nightingale, who was not injured, said he couldn't get through the window, which was blocked by dirt, so he grabbed his backpack and climbed into the hallway.

Then he moved into a neighboring room where he found a way to climb out and onto the side of the train.
He said some people helped others reach the ground where he and others walked to the front of the train. He said the truck looked like it had big boulders in it. "It hit something major to cause ... every car to go off," he said. Mendon is about 100 miles northeast of Kansas City. The train was traveling from Los Angeles to Chicago.

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BumRushDaShow Jun 27 OP
Rebl2 Jun 27 #1
chowder66 Jun 27 #6
sinkingfeeling Jun 27 #2
BumRushDaShow Jun 27 #5
Hiawatha Pete Jun 28 #11
PoliticAverse Jun 28 #12
Rebl2 Jun 28 #17
PoliticAverse Jun 28 #19
XanaDUer2 Jun 27 #3
Rebl2 Jun 27 #4
Kali Jun 27 #9
PoliticAverse Jun 28 #13
multigraincracker Jun 27 #7
Stuart G Jun 27 #8
Rebl2 Jun 27 #10
BumRushDaShow Jun 28 #15
muriel_volestrangler Jun 28 #14
Strelnikov_ Jun 28 #16
RamblingRose Jun 28 #18
PoliticAverse Jun 28 #20
mahatmakanejeeves Jun 28 #21
nitpicker Jun 28 #22

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:28 PM

1. This is

the third train derailment in the last week and half near Kansas City. Two in Kansas and now this one in Missouri. One in Kansas was a coal train. The second was I believe near Lawrence,KS. Now one about one hundred miles from KCMO. Beginning to think the heat we have had the last few weeks might have affected them. Today it has finally cooled down a bit. Of course the one today was due to a dump truck.

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 05:53 PM

6. The coal train was in Lawrence, another was in Bonner Springs carrying isobutane (no leaks) and

now this one.

I love trains but yikes!!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:30 PM

2. Why do we say the train hit a vehicle? The train is rolling along on its track, so

the vehicle had to dis-obey the RR warnings and attempt to cross the track, hitting the train.

I'm in a really contentious mood today.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 05:18 PM

5. I just saw the story about the California one

and the crossing had no gate or lights.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 12:23 AM

11. +1000

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 03:37 AM

12. That's not how it works. We say the thing impacting something in the direction...

it is traveling "hit" the thing that was traveling in a direction 90-degree to its motion.

If the train had been crossing in front of the vehicle and the vehicle had impacted the side of the train we'd say "a vehicle hit the train".

In the case of the incident in the story you could just say the train hit a vehicle crossing in front of it.

> the vehicle had to dis-obey the RR warnings

It is possible any warnings were not operational.

It is possible the vehicle stalled while crossing the tracks.




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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:45 AM

17. This was an area where there

was no arm that comes down or flashing lights to warn of a train is coming. Unfortunately a lot of rural areas have this problem.

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:20 AM

19. Yes I see on reports today that it was an "uncontrolled crossing", just a stop sign. n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:33 PM

3. Do vehicle drivers not get

Stopping on the RR is dumb? Does there need to be a PSA?

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:58 PM

4. They likely

thought they could beat the train or they were stuck and thought they could move the vehicle. I myself would just get out of the car.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 10:02 PM

9. wierd thngs happen and nobody has a clue how fast a train arrives

vehicles get hung on the tracks, or it is a rural no-signal crossing...or dumbshits try to beat a train. again when you are tooling around in a little metal box 50 to 75 miles an hour you lose track of the reality of how even slow speeds can fuck you up. try walking into a wall. trains are huge and they are relentlessly traveling forward. even at 35 - 40 they are going to ruin your day.

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Response to Kali (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 03:43 AM

13. It is hard for humans to judge how fast things are travelling especially when they are traveling

very fast.

There are many accidents every year involving vehicles making left turns across oncoming traffic in which the driver misjudged how quickly an oncoming vehicle would arrive.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:43 PM

7. I retired from working in a rail yard 20 years ago.

Saw a lot of cars derailed, all freight cars, pretty scary.
My hat is off to the crews that come in and get those car back up on the rails. The most dangerous job I've every seen.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:37 PM

8. K & R very sad.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 10:24 PM

10. I remember

when I was in jr. high (70’s) a train track that was across the street from us had a train derail a little way down the track from us. I remember it was about 6 or so in the morning and the sound woke me up. Super loud to say the least. Ended up some kids had messed with a switching mechanism or track. Don’t know how they could have done that. Of course they were arrested and charged. Oddly I don’t remember if there were any deaths and it wasn’t a passenger train. It was the Rock Island line I believe.

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 06:52 AM

15. Back when I was in junior high also in the (early) '70s

I used to commute downtown every day for school using one of the commuter trains and then a bus. At the time, I would get off at what was "the end of the line" downtown for that route - Suburban Station here in Philly (which was part of the old Penn Central, later Conrail, and now SEPTA lines).

There was a platform walkway (and then a wall) where the tracks ended, leading to the steps up to the main station area, and that walkway was perpendicular to and intersected with the regular track platforms that ran alongside where the train car entrance/exit doors opened to.

I remember one morning, we ended up arriving on a different track from our regular one because apparently some train using our usual track/gate (either going to fast and/or had brakes fail and/or experienced a human error move) had smacked right into the bumpers and platform where the track ended. That accident took out the bumper and huge chunks of the concrete walkway. It took them awhile to get that repaired.

Years later, they broke through that "end of line" wall and connected those Penn Central tracks to the old Reading Railroad line tracks, so those tracks would connect Suburban Station with both 30th St. Station (which was also an Amtrak hub) and what would be the replacement station for the Reading Terminal - "Market East Station" (now renamed "Jefferson Station" ).

I remember when I first started working downtown and using the same train line and getting the weirdest feeling when we "kept going through" Suburban Station (that used to be the end) and onto Market East where I got off and got on the El (Market-Frankford Elevated line that was underground for that portion) to go further into town closer to where I worked.

And if anyone has access to those tracks, they don't even have to mess with a switching mechanism. A few strategically placed rocks at those switches would trigger the failure for the switch to engage. I remember there were signals all along the route where I think 2 (or maybe 3) horizontal lights on it meant "stop" and 2 (or 3) vertical lights meant "proceed" (and a diagonal of 2 or 3 was a "proceed with caution" or something like that). So if a track hadn't switched correctly (or was in a configuration for a different train to use an intersecting track), then other trains got the "stop" signal and would wait until the right-of-way one had passed and the switch for them was engaged so they could continue on their routes. But if that signal got screwed or the sabotage was enough to trigger the "proceed" but was not enough to actually allow the full track switch to be engaged, then I can see how a train could derail.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 06:15 AM

14. 3 have died so far, including one in the truck

update at CNN link:

Three people are dead and at least 50 injured after an Amtrak train derailed Monday in Missouri, authorities said Monday evening.

Cpl. Justin Dunn, a spokesperson for Missouri State Highway Patrol Troop B, told reporters that two of the people who were killed were aboard the train while the third was in a dump truck that the train struck.

Authorities said the tragic incident happened at an uncontrolled intersection -- without warning lights or motion gates -- where a gravel road crossed the railroad tracks southwest of town.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:26 AM

16. "Railroad knew crossing was dangerous and failed to fix it, Missouri farmer says"


https://www.kansascity.com/news/state/missouri/article262950423.html




For the past three years, Spencer and others in the community have been in discussions with the railroad, a safety engineer from the Missouri Department of Transportation, a county commissioner and a railroad engineer with the goal of improving safety at the crossing.

Authorities agreed to do something, said Spencer, whose farmland surrounds the crossing. But it hasn’t happened. “This is on the railroad’s shoulders. This is on the railroad’s shoulders,” Spencer said. “They have known this is a problem. … They were concerned, but not concerned enough to do anything.


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Response to Strelnikov_ (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:00 AM

18. Who is responsible for maintaining the safety of train crossings (clearing brush, putting up gates,

flashing lights, etc.) - Federal Government, State DOT's, the freight company or Amtrak?

The KCS article made it sound like it's the State DOT's failure.

Either way, I'm sure it's going to be a big setback for Amtrak.

Very sad.




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Response to RamblingRose (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:27 AM

20. Amtrack trains typically travel over tracks owned by other railroads, in this case the track...

was apparently owned by BNSF Railway ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNSF_Railway ) which to me bears the ultimate responsibility for safety of crossings.

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Response to Strelnikov_ (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:31 AM

21. Another link for that commentary

This is not an endorsement of what he's saying.

NEWS

Missouri farmer worried for years about steep crossing at site of Amtrak train derailment

by: Dave D'Marko

Posted: Jun 27, 2022 / 10:27 PM CDT

Updated: Jun 27, 2022 / 10:27 PM CDT

{snip}

FOX4 is told a dump truck hauling rocks to a nearby levee collided with the train. The operator of the farm that is now the site of an NTSB investigation said he wasn’t surprised by the crash.

“Whenever you cross here with a combine you have to actually put your steering wheel all the way forward and stand up out of the seat as you are trying to climb that approach and cross and look down the track both ways,” said farm operator Mike Spencer.

Kansas students, Wisconsin Boy Scouts on Amtrak train that derailed in central Missouri

Spencer said he’s been working with the county and railroad to try to get the steep crossing of two sets of railroad tracks leveled off and thought he had the greenlight on the project last year. He posted frustrations that hadn’t happened yet earlier this month.

“Our hearts really go out to the families, I tried to prevent this, I done everything I knew to do in my power,” Spencer said. “I talked to numerous people and I’m just really saddened I wasn’t able to do more.”

{snip}

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2022, 01:59 PM

22. (Another person died in hospital)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/amtrak-train-derailment-missouri-mendon-accident-latest-b2110859.html

(snip)

Four people have been killed and at least 50 injured when an Amtrak train carrying 275 people derailed after hitting a dump truck in Kansas City, Missouri on Monday.

Lt Eric Brown of the Missouri State Highway Patrol said in a press conference that at least three people had died, two of whom were on the train and one of whom was in the truck. A fourth person was confirmed to have died on Tuesday.
(snip)

Breaking: Fourth person dies
A fourth person has died from injuries suffered in an Amtrak train derailment in Missouri, authorities say. The patrol said the person died at University of Missouri Health Center, where some of the injured form Monday’s collision were taken.

The person, whose identity was not released, was passenger on the train travelling from LA to Chicago, the Associated Press reported.
(snip)

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