Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:28 PM
pstokely (10,153 posts)
More than 1 million voters switch to GOP in warning for Dems
Source: AP
WASHINGTON (AP) — A political shift is beginning to take hold across the U.S. as tens of thousands of suburban swing voters who helped fuel the Democratic Party’s gains in recent years are becoming Republicans. More than 1 million voters across 43 states have switched to the Republican Party over the last year, according to voter registration data analyzed by The Associated Press. The previously unreported number reflects a phenomenon that is playing out in virtually every region of the country — Democratic and Republican states along with cities and small towns — in the period since President Joe Biden replaced former President Donald Trump. But nowhere is the shift more pronounced — and dangerous for Democrats — than in the suburbs, where well-educated swing voters who turned against Trump’s Republican Party in recent years appear to be swinging back. Over the last year, far more people are switching to the GOP across suburban counties from Denver to Atlanta and Pittsburgh and Cleveland. Republicans also gained ground in counties around medium-size cities such as Harrisburg, Pennsylvania; Raleigh, North Carolina; Augusta, Georgia; and Des Moines, Iowa. Ben Smith, who lives in suburban Larimer County, Colorado, north of Denver, said he reluctantly registered as a Republican earlier in the year after becoming increasingly concerned about the Democrats’ support in some localities for mandatory COVID-19 vaccines, the party’s inability to quell violent crime and its frequent focus on racial justice. Read more: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-covid-health-presidential-e50db07385831e67f866ec45402be8b9 this from AP, not Faux?
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pstokely | Jun 27 | OP |
Casady1 | Jun 27 | #1 | |
pstokely | Jun 27 | #5 | |
Beachnutt | Jun 27 | #2 | |
obamanut2012 | Jun 27 | #7 | |
freedomrock1970 | Jun 27 | #25 | |
obamanut2012 | Jun 27 | #26 | |
mentalsolstice | Jun 27 | #56 | |
Eliot Rosewater | Jun 27 | #10 | |
riversedge | Jun 27 | #14 | |
elleng | Jun 27 | #19 | |
DetroitLegalBeagle | Jun 27 | #23 | |
AnrothElf | Jun 27 | #28 | |
Fullduplexxx | Jun 27 | #33 | |
sdfernando | Jun 27 | #37 | |
SergeStorms | Jun 27 | #42 | |
Rebl2 | Jun 27 | #39 | |
oldsoftie | Jun 27 | #40 | |
onetexan | Jun 27 | #54 | |
jaysunb | Jun 27 | #3 | |
liberalla | Jun 27 | #4 | |
liberalla | Jun 27 | #15 | |
obamanut2012 | Jun 27 | #6 | |
Beachnutt | Jun 27 | #13 | |
obamanut2012 | Jun 27 | #29 | |
lefthandedskyhook | Jun 27 | #8 | |
YoshidaYui | Jun 27 | #9 | |
lefthandedskyhook | Jun 27 | #11 | |
YoshidaYui | Jun 27 | #16 | |
lefthandedskyhook | Jun 27 | #21 | |
PatSeg | Jun 27 | #12 | |
elleng | Jun 27 | #17 | |
pnwmom | Jun 27 | #18 | |
SouthBayDem | Jun 27 | #57 | |
pnwmom | Jun 27 | #20 | |
lapfog_1 | Jun 27 | #22 | |
LeftInTX | Jun 27 | #30 | |
Xoan | Jun 27 | #24 | |
SergeStorms | Jun 27 | #43 | |
brooklynite | Jun 28 | #65 | |
Stuart G | Jun 27 | #27 | |
Baitball Blogger | Jun 27 | #31 | |
Lovie777 | Jun 27 | #32 | |
moose65 | Jun 27 | #34 | |
erronis | Jun 27 | #35 | |
Beastly Boy | Jun 27 | #36 | |
erronis | Jun 27 | #41 | |
maxrandb | Jun 28 | #61 | |
IronLionZion | Jun 27 | #38 | |
Tom Yossarian Joad | Jun 27 | #44 | |
jimlup | Jun 27 | #45 | |
Dopers_Greed | Jun 27 | #46 | |
PSPS | Jun 27 | #47 | |
onenote | Jun 27 | #48 | |
cstanleytech | Jun 27 | #49 | |
pnwmom | Jun 27 | #58 | |
cstanleytech | Jun 27 | #59 | |
pnwmom | Jun 28 | #63 | |
Joinfortmill | Jun 27 | #50 | |
keopeli | Jun 27 | #51 | |
Chin music | Jun 27 | #52 | |
BigmanPigman | Jun 27 | #53 | |
imavoter | Jun 27 | #55 | |
dsc | Jun 27 | #60 | |
mahatmakanejeeves | Jun 28 | #62 | |
FreepFryer | Jun 28 | #64 | |
RandiFan1290 | Jul 1 | #66 | |
mahatmakanejeeves | Jul 1 | #67 |
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:30 PM
Casady1 (1,236 posts)
1. It is really 300,000
It is a misleading headline.
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Response to Casady1 (Reply #1)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:32 PM
pstokely (10,153 posts)
5. I didn't write it
and that was before last Friday I assume
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Beachnutt This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:32 PM
obamanut2012 (23,102 posts)
7. Yup, I have done it here in FL
Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #7)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:45 PM
freedomrock1970 (30 posts)
25. I do the same here in TN
If there is Dem on the ticket, there is only one, so they win their Primary anyway.
It give me two chances to not vote for the local GQP. |
Response to freedomrock1970 (Reply #25)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:45 PM
obamanut2012 (23,102 posts)
26. Exactly
Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #7)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:40 PM
mentalsolstice (4,280 posts)
56. A lot of my friends here in the panhandle do it.
Unfortunately declaring Independent precludes one from voting in any primary. I’m registered democratic. Because of our sunshine laws we can see how anyone is registered in this state. And yeah when I meet a new, potential friend, I will look it up. However, like you I know it’s not a litmus test.
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Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:35 PM
riversedge (64,061 posts)
14. Lets hope you are 100% correct. I saw this headline earlier and it almost made me sick.
Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:38 PM
elleng (117,944 posts)
19. Yes, this is recent; the OP is about' over the last year.'
Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:43 PM
DetroitLegalBeagle (1,356 posts)
23. For some yes
But for all, no. Not all states have closed primaries. Actually, I believe the the number of states with closed primarys are only 14 or 15. So the location of these switches are important.
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Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:52 PM
AnrothElf (154 posts)
28. Yup. Moved to Wyoming recently...
Will vote (ugh) for Cheney in the primary and then vote against her in the general
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Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:03 PM
Fullduplexxx (5,993 posts)
33. There's also massive fraud in florida tricking people into
Switching
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Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #33)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:15 PM
sdfernando (4,335 posts)
37. Yeah..this was my thought as well
How many of those "switches" were unbeknownst to the voter?
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Response to sdfernando (Reply #37)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:49 PM
SergeStorms (16,426 posts)
42. Even if it was 1,000,000 voters....
that's 23, 255 per state. what percentage of those are from states that already solid red?
I'm not going to lose any sleep about this, whatever the numbers. Come November, we're going to kick their stinking asses. |
Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:32 PM
Rebl2 (7,796 posts)
39. Yep
I have done the same in the past.
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Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:43 PM
oldsoftie (9,294 posts)
40. How do they not see this? I did it. I told EVERYONE to do it.
Trumpism needed to be defeated at the state level.
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Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:25 PM
onetexan (10,682 posts)
54. Thank you for reminding us of this!!
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:31 PM
jaysunb (11,828 posts)
3. Bullshit ! Nt
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:32 PM
liberalla (7,489 posts)
4. Let's see how many switch and embrace Dems after the anti-choice SC decision...
** plus we know dems have switched to vote in the R primaries **
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Response to liberalla (Reply #4)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:35 PM
liberalla (7,489 posts)
15. A 10 point swing to the Democrats post Dobbs
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:32 PM
obamanut2012 (23,102 posts)
6. As I keep stating, I am one of them
I changed from D to R to vote in the FL GOP Primary. We have closed primaries here.
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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #6)
Beachnutt This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:32 PM
lefthandedskyhook (754 posts)
8. Warning?
C'mon AP!
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:32 PM
YoshidaYui (38,738 posts)
9. What the flying...
fuck, thinking fascism is better then democracy? Did they think the insurrection was legitimized? Who the fuck are these people who still think Donald Trump should not be President, But Emperor King?
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Response to YoshidaYui (Reply #9)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:34 PM
lefthandedskyhook (754 posts)
11. look under the lining
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Response to lefthandedskyhook (Reply #11)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:36 PM
YoshidaYui (38,738 posts)
16. more like in their depends...
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Response to YoshidaYui (Reply #16)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:42 PM
lefthandedskyhook (754 posts)
21. LOL
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:34 PM
PatSeg (43,195 posts)
12. I really have my doubts about that
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:37 PM
elleng (117,944 posts)
17. 'over the last year,' may be significant;
need more recent voter decisions.
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:37 PM
pnwmom (106,474 posts)
18. Then suburban women will be switching back, after the demise of Roe V Wade.
We need to make this a one issue election, the demise of Roe v. Wade and THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY, upon which depend Women's right to make medical decisions about their own bodies, and LGBT rights.
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #18)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 08:40 PM
SouthBayDem (31,465 posts)
57. When was the last "one issue" election, 1974?
Just one year after Roe and three months after Nixon resigned, Nixon's party took major losses in the midterms. The Democrats gained a veto proof Senate majority (57 to 61 seats) and flipped 49 House seats. On top of the struggling economy of the time, the disgraceful fall of the party leader tarnished the Republican brand for a few years.
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:42 PM
pnwmom (106,474 posts)
20. And, by the same statistical guesswork, about 630,000 switched TO the Democrats.
In all, more than 1 million people became Republicans compared to about 630,000 who became Democrats.
So the Democrats shouldn't be making any hasty decisions about becoming more conservative to appeal to suburban voters. |
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:42 PM
lapfog_1 (26,893 posts)
22. They are looking at their 401k and the purchasing power.
My "retirement" account, made up mostly of unrealized restricted stock units, has dropped by 50% in the last 7 months. There is absolutely nothing I can do about that.
I got a 3% raise... which will do very little to offset the increase in rent (8%) or food (10%) which are my main expenditures. I know Biden and Democrats did not create this.. the market was overheated, the Fed had to clamp down and raise rates... but, of course, the Fed is looking more at lagging indicators and probably course corrected too much and too late. Plus, China is deliberately trying to screw the USA by continuing with a Covid lockdown response when it is very clear that the virus is now post pandemic... it is endemic. Plus the China vaccine is for shit, apparently. Anyway, supply chain is fucked and will continue to be fucked. The invasion of Ukraine and resulting oil supply crunch (already bad by everyone in Europe and the US returning to travel like it's 2018) have added to the inflation spike. I hope the educated suburban women vote for Democrats this fall... even if they are now registered as Repukes. The men won't give a shit... sadly. |
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:44 PM
Xoan (24,725 posts)
24. AP is playing games.
Ignore them.
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Response to Xoan (Reply #24)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:57 AM
brooklynite (80,116 posts)
65. Absent evidence, ignoring data you don't like is a bad idea.
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:46 PM
Stuart G (34,764 posts)
27. Come November we will all see who is correct.Will the Democrats gain a huge majority in both houses?
Or, will it be the opposite.
If angry women do vote against this decision, then they will vote for Dems. ...Question... .....HOW MANY WOMEN IN THE U.S. ARE ANGRY THAT ONE RIGHT THAT THEY HAD FOR MANY YEARS, IS GONE? (even those who would never use that right, are they angry about losing it?)... For example..I almost never buy booze, but I want to have that right cause someday I might buy some. Get the Point? |
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:59 PM
Baitball Blogger (43,369 posts)
31. Wasn't it reported recently that Democrats intentionally switched to Republicans
in order to vote against Trump candidates in their primaries?
And seriously, 1 mil over 43 States? That's a problem? |
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:00 PM
Lovie777 (4,942 posts)
32. I read something like this at least 6 months ago . . .
Gosh right on time when crazy republicans decisions are starting to backfire. So far as to crimes, ugh, Democrats want realistic gun control.
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:04 PM
moose65 (2,627 posts)
34. Ugh
Notice how the article interviewed two people who switched from Dem to Rep, but didn't talk to anyone who went the other way?
Also, this is not just based on actual numbers - they also used statistical analysis to "estimate" the number who switched. So, it's a million who became Republicans vs. 630,000 who became Democrats. They also don't mention that many states don't do registration by party affiliation, and they also don't mention that there are lots of unaffiliated voters out there. In NC, the number of unaffiliated voters is now more that the number in each major party. I don't understand party switchers, really. Are people really stupid enough to believe that Biden, one of the most normal politicians out there, is a socialist? Geez. |
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:10 PM
erronis (11,426 posts)
35. I got a jury alert: This post may interfere with moderation. WTF? This post may be off, but
it doesn't interfere with moderation. Whoever alerted should be noted.
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:11 PM
Beastly Boy (4,701 posts)
36. Lousy reporting and lousy journalism from AP. No surprise.
From the article: "In all, more than 1 million people became Republicans compared to about 630,000 who became Democrats."
There are so many holes in this sentence alone, it discredits the entire article: - Despite the headline, there is no switching implied in these numbers. The numbers show how many people became Republican in the past year vs how many became Democrats. These may be newly eligible voters, or previously unregistered voters, or independents and non-partisan voters declaring their new affiliation, or, indeed, members of the two major parties switching affiliations, or all of the above. No specific numbers of voters who switched have been identified. - The click bait header doesn't mention the 630,000 voters who became Democrats, in warning to Republicans or otherwise. - Nowhere in the article does it mention that the net difference between the newly minted Repubs and Dems amounts to 360,000 people in 43 states. The distribution per state, or its effects on swing states, or the demographic breakdown per state, and thus the likely effects on outcomes in the next election, are all unknown. In addition: - The remaining 7 states are mysteriously missing from the data analyzed by AP, and we don't know what these states are. -The analysis is based on data "over the last year". Was it 2021 or 2022? Or was it a period between June 28 of last year and today? Or a random one-year period? How does this compare to any other comparable time period? Very sloppy journalism. I am calling bullshit on AP. |
Response to Beastly Boy (Reply #36)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:48 PM
erronis (11,426 posts)
41. Ditto. Good analysis of AP's shitty reporting.
Response to Beastly Boy (Reply #36)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 06:49 AM
maxrandb (13,163 posts)
61. It's not sloppy reporting
It's purposeful reich wing propaganda.
It's designed to push the "Dems in disarray", or "Dems in trouble" meme |
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:18 PM
IronLionZion (39,576 posts)
38. COVID vaccines, violent crime, focus on racial justice
Plenty of people are enjoying the benefits of injustice and would like to maintain the status quo. Those folks are afraid of CRT, LGBT, and similar stuff in schools.
The recent overturning of Roe would also impact many voters. Some conservatives might get complacent if that was their main issue. |
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 04:55 PM
Tom Yossarian Joad (18,277 posts)
44. Holy shit. If I were younger I would pack it all and move to a more progressive country.
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 05:11 PM
jimlup (7,912 posts)
45. Don't ever over-estimate the intelligence
of the electorate. The majority are short sighted and barely see the news in front of their face.
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 05:12 PM
Dopers_Greed (2,588 posts)
46. We're going to get annihilated in November
This is probably the last couple months of democracy, even if in name only.
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
PSPS This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:05 PM
onenote (37,540 posts)
48. It's 1 million R switchers and 630,000 D switchers
So its a net 370,000 Repub switchers. But that' s not just D to R. It includes Libertarians, Independents, etc. And it doesn't tell you how many of them already were voting for Republicans.
Maybe not the best news, but not worthy of a panic response. |
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:10 PM
cstanleytech (23,986 posts)
49. 1 million scattered across the country is hardly a tidal wave seeing as there are
millions of other voters.
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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #49)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 10:55 PM
pnwmom (106,474 posts)
58. Especially when 630K others switched from the R's to being Democrats. n/t
Response to pnwmom (Reply #58)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 11:24 PM
cstanleytech (23,986 posts)
59. What would be concerning is if the ones joining them had a history going back 20 years of
only voting for Democrats.
My bet is though that most if not all of them are ones that actually have a history of mostly voting for Republicans and they are simply making it public now. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #59)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 07:19 AM
pnwmom (106,474 posts)
63. Or they could be good Democrats in solid red districts, who join to vote against
the worst R's, like Lauren Boebert or Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:18 PM
Joinfortmill (7,405 posts)
50. To vote in primaries so Trump nominated candidates don't win?
Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:33 PM
keopeli (2,971 posts)
51. People don't usually switch parties mid-year because they know they will vote for the Repub in Nov.
It doesn't matter what party you are in. You just vote. The main reason people switch parties is to vote in the primaries.
This article really is stretching to think a surge in party switching is related to how one will vote differently in November than in the past. How many people were registered Dems, but voted for and liked Trump and are only now switching so they can vote in the primaries? Being an election judge and clerk, this is the most likely cause of such an event. These switchers were already voting republican, but never voted in the primary. Their asshole friends are convincing them they need to vote in the primaries, but they can't if they aren't registered properly. So, they switch. I say this whole article is click-bait. |
Response to pstokely (Original post)
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:10 PM
BigmanPigman (46,816 posts)
53. Dems will pick up millionS from suburban moms over "pro choice".
They should take that survey again in a few weeks.
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:31 PM
imavoter (473 posts)
55. I just read a different article that Rs are worried after abortion decision.
So which is it?
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 11:45 PM
dsc (51,285 posts)
60. Not that this is the main thing they wrote about
but Raleigh is bigger than both Cleveland and Pittsburgh and has been for quite a while. It is pretty odd to see an implication that Raleigh is a medium sized city and smaller than those cities. Raleigh has just under 500k while Cleveland is under 400k now and Pittsburgh has just under 300k.
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Response to pstokely (Original post)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 06:51 AM
mahatmakanejeeves (47,003 posts)
62. Dear easily upset DUer who doesn't understand the concept of news:
Just because you don't like the results of the poll, that doesn't mean the story is a right wing talking point.
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #62)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:52 AM
FreepFryer (6,876 posts)
64. It also doesn't mean it isn't. Beau of the Fifth Column had an excellent piece on this "story."
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #62)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 06:16 AM
RandiFan1290 (6,072 posts)
66. An analysis claiming one million voters switched to the GOP last year was fatally flawed
https://gelliottmorris.substack.com/p/an-analysis-claiming-one-million
Aww, Bless your heart ![]() On Monday, the Associated Press reported that “More than 1 million voters across 43 states have switched to the Republican Party over the last year, according to voter registration data… A political shift is beginning to take hold across the U.S. as tens of thousands of suburban swing voters who helped fuel the Democratic Party’s gains in recent years are becoming Republicans.”
The bombshell story was shared far and wide by election analysts, political reporters, and even some politicians. Texas Governor Greg Abbott tweeted them matter-of-factly to his followers; Florida Senator Rick Scott said the report was “another sign of the red wave coming this November as Democrats continue to go full force on their radical agenda.” There’s just one huge problem: the reported shift is not actually real. |
Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #66)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 06:58 AM
mahatmakanejeeves (47,003 posts)
67. Thanks for providing that. It's a newsworthy rebuttal.
I hope that G. Elliott Morris called the AP and offered to be interviewed, so that they could carry his analysis of the data.
Any subsequent AP story about it would be worthy of appearing on DU. If somebody alerted on the DU story linking to it and I were on the jury, I would vote to keep the story in place. Recently a few DUers have taken it upon themselves to suppress news they don't like. That bothers me. I vote against their attempts at suppressing the news, every last time. I don't care what the story says, but I do care that some DUers think it's their job to suppress it. That's my point. Thanks for writing. |