HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » Defense Department to kee...

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:29 PM

Defense Department to keep access to "reproductive health care" after Roe v. Wade's end

Source: Axios

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Friday that the Pentagon is working to ensure that members of the military, their families and its civilian employees will still have access to "reproductive health care" after the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Why it matters: The Defense Department currently does not have a policy to accommodate service members or employees who are seeking an abortion but are stationed in a state that has outlawed abortion, Politico reports.

Federal law currently allows military medical facilities to provide abortions only in cases of rape, incest or if a womanís life is in danger, while the military's health program is allowed to cover abortions at private facilities for those same reasons only.

What they're saying: "Nothing is more important to me or to this Department than the health and well-being of our Service members, the civilian workforce and DOD families," Austin said in a statement on Friday.



Read more: https://www.axios.com/2022/06/25/defense-department-abortion-access-roe-v-wade

12 replies, 1552 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:40 PM

1. Excellent. Thanks for posting. Kick

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:54 PM

2. Understand, now this is the choice of the president. It has limited coverage of who and where..

If the Republicans get the Preidency in 2024 or anytime thereafter without a change in the SCOTUS or the law, then itís over. This does only pertain to active duty personnel or their dependents, regardless. I donít think USAA would cover this. ACA would be covered by state rules as would universal Medicare.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 12:26 AM

3. Just words/vibes. See this:

"Federal law currently allows military medical facilities to provide abortions only in cases of rape, incest or if a womanís life is in danger, while the military's health program is allowed to cover abortions at private facilities for those same reasons only."

Good luck getting the votes in congress (particularly the Senate) to overrule that.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to kelly1mm (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 12:33 AM

4. I think that would have to with the Hyde Amendment

Which was not passed into law this year. Biden thought ahead on that one. Iím finding it hard to find anything substantive on this.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to tirebiter (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:40 AM

5. The Hyde Amendment *is* currently in place

Biden "thought ahead of time" in his proposal for the 2023 budget, but there is no sign that he can get a budget passed without it.

It was dropped from the 2022 budget when proposed as well... but we weren't able to get that passed.

It was a "red line" for Manchin. There aren't 51 votes to drop it, let alone the 60 needed to bypass a filibuster.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:43 AM

6. Can't tell what this means in practice

Perhaps they're saying that they'll allow for travel to another state?

I suppose it could be saying that if you're in a state that bans abortion including in cases of rape/incest that the military medical services will still provide one... but I'm not sure that they have that option. Have to look at how Hyde rubs up against federal enclave doctrine

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to FBaggins (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 02:43 PM

8. Military bases cover abortion under those strict criteria.

Military bases within a state are generally exempt from state laws. They would not need to travel to another state.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LeftInTX (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:00 PM

10. Right - which is why I'm still wondering what the effect is

As you say - it's a pretty strict set of standards currently and they aren't changing.

The only thing I could think of was that (previously), someone in the military who needed an abortion (outside these narrow constraints) would have to leave the base and go out into town to see a civilian doctor. But now it's a much bigger deal if they have to travel hundreds of miles for a few days. Servicemembers can't always do get enough leave within a desired timeline.

I guessed that what they were saying was that the services were prepared to accommodate such needs.

I've seen much wilder speculation that the president should set up clinics in the ban states on federal property to overcome state laws, but I don't consider that credible (and certainly don't see it implied here).

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 08:26 AM

7. Almost every woman in active duty is reproductive age

and many of them don't want to be pregnant.

The OP doesn't say abortion specifically so there are probably focused on options for contraception and birth control.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to IronLionZion (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 02:47 PM

9. Abortion is only legal in rape, incest and life threatening situations at DOD facilities.

However, in Texas abortion is now illegal for rape and incest, unless they are performed at DOD facility. The state does not have jurisdiction on military bases. However, there is fine tuning that needs to be done to keep these services available, such as educating staff etc etc etc

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:28 PM

11. Hey, Biden as C.I.C. could order tomorrow all bases open to any woman seeking an abortion. So....

...tell me why not? And btw, if he orders same, who will stop the C.I.C.? Clarence? Mitch, Boebert?

No effin' way. Oh, and please don't quote Hyde or any other law the SC claims is in effect. They are a rogue passel of black robed R's (well, too many that is) that we can ignore as an illegitimate branch of government. If we ignore them, we win.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to machoneman (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 05:01 PM

12. No. He couldn't

"Oh, and please don't quote any law"

You've confused which candidate won in 2020. That sounds far too much like the former guy.

Biden is sworn to uphold and execute the laws, not ignore them.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread