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Fri May 27, 2022, 07:51 PM

Trump urges end to gun-free school zones, easier confinement of 'deranged' people

Source: Reuters

By Arathy Somasekhar and Kanishka Singh

HOUSTON/WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Former President Donald Trump on Friday argued the United States should make it easier to confine "deranged" people and eliminate gun-free school zones after a gunman killed 19 children and two teachers this week at a Texas school.

"Clearly, we need to make it far easier to confine the violent and mentally deranged into mental institutions," Trump said in a speech at a convention in Houston of the National Rifle Association, a gun rights advocacy group.

Tuesday's fatal shooting of 19 pupils and two teachers in Uvalde, Texas, by an 18-year-old gunman equipped with an AR-15 style semiautomatic rifle again focused attention on the NRA, a major donor to Congress members, mostly Republicans.

On suggestions to improve the security of schools, Trump said every school should have a single point of entry, strong fencing and metal detectors, adding there should also be a police official or an armed guard at all times in every school.


Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-urges-end-to-gun-free-school-zones-easier-confinement-of-deranged-people/ar-AAXOeeA



You'd be locked up then dotard. Maybe that's not a bad idea.

The single point of entry has to be the most mind numbingly stupid idea for obvious reasons.




Couldn't make money off his appearance?

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Reply Trump urges end to gun-free school zones, easier confinement of 'deranged' people (Original post)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 27 OP
wcmagumba May 27 #1
Turbineguy May 27 #2
Traildogbob May 27 #4
johnnyplankton May 27 #3
thenelm1 May 27 #20
Rhiannon12866 May 30 #46
Demovictory9 May 30 #47
msongs May 27 #5
empedocles May 27 #6
Blue Owl May 27 #7
MarcA May 27 #8
Safety Dawg May 27 #9
Skittles May 27 #10
ThoughtCriminal May 27 #11
jmowreader May 27 #12
Diamond_Dog May 27 #13
Kaleva May 27 #14
quaker bill May 27 #15
thesquanderer May 28 #24
JohnnyRingo May 28 #31
colorado_ufo May 28 #34
bluestarone May 27 #16
Rhiannon12866 May 27 #17
RayStar May 29 #44
James48 May 27 #18
LudwigPastorius May 27 #19
SouthernDem4ever May 28 #27
J_William_Ryan May 28 #21
rockfordfile May 28 #22
towerbum May 28 #23
twodogsbarking May 28 #25
SouthernDem4ever May 28 #26
ificandream May 28 #28
kimbutgar May 28 #29
JohnnyRingo May 28 #30
Laha May 28 #32
lapfog_1 May 29 #45
CaptainTruth May 28 #33
The Jungle 1 May 28 #35
Vinca May 28 #36
live love laugh May 28 #37
drumpfsucks May 28 #38
Brainfodder May 28 #39
2Gingersnaps May 28 #40
pfitz59 May 28 #41
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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:53 PM

1. Deranged he is...(Yoda)...nt

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:53 PM

2. Yeah, we should take advice

from a guy who helped kill a million people.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #2)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:54 PM

4. Lock him up

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:54 PM

3. "Easier confinement of 'deranged' people?" Careful what you wish for Donnie boy....

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Response to johnnyplankton (Reply #3)

Fri May 27, 2022, 10:51 PM

20. He's the poster boy for puffed up "tough guys" that run at the first sign of actual confrontation.

I mean this clown has a fear of getting "pied" for Pete's sake. He always cajoles his followers into fighting his actual battles for him. The classic definition of a bully. This known germophobe would never get his hands dirty physically taking on an actual opponent.

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Response to thenelm1 (Reply #20)

Mon May 30, 2022, 03:11 AM

46. He's terrified of pineapples!

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Response to johnnyplankton (Reply #3)

Mon May 30, 2022, 04:25 AM

47. yep

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:54 PM

5. whre's the LBN. don't see any here nt

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:57 PM

6. NBC News tonight, gave trump a free pass on his usual lies. No rebuttal.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:57 PM

7. Go fuck yourself Donny you fat piece of shit

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:59 PM

8. He wants to make schools into prisons for the students and teachers. n/t

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 08:06 PM

9. So, to recap...

He wants guns to be more free to roam, but people less so. Got it.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 08:09 PM

10. if we made it "easy"

Trump would be one of the first deranged fuckers confined

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 08:20 PM

11. Trump Signed A Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

This was posted a few days ago on DU:

Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 08:23 PM

12. Trump, you stupid piece of shit!

THERE WAS A COP IN THE SCHOOL! Not a rent-a-cop, but a genuine certified and sworn police officer. What did that get us? They're still scraping ten-year-old blood off the fucking floor.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 08:50 PM

13. They want to make schools into POW camps

Complete with barbed wire, watchtowers, SWAT teams patrolling the halls.

So what about grocery stores, churches, hair salons…. parking lots … shopping malls … the list goes on and on and on ….

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 08:58 PM

14. He's suggesting schools be built like maximum security prisons.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 09:02 PM

15. He is an idiot

An armed security person simply becomes the first target. There is a reason that 40 or 50 "good guys with guns" still take an hour to breach the building. In short summary, because the lunatic with the AR-15 will kill them, unless they get the first shot and that shot is deadly. The "good guys with guns" actually know what an AR-15 is capable of doing to a human body, so they are pretty damn careful.

Reasonable ingress and egress standards for fire safety will simply rule out a single access point. You have to be able to evacuate a building in a reasonable amount of time, and from several points in case fire blocks one or another path.

In so far as caging the deranged is concerned, institutions were not an altogether bad idea, but they have never been implemented in a way that was remotely humane. We defunded and deinstitutionalized the mentally ill during the Reagan Administration and no longer have the bed space to remotely handle the population that might qualify for mandatory treatment. Secondly comes the question of how you find them, other than at the scene of a mass shooting. If you can only find them in the middle of scene of mass carnage at a shopping center, movie theater, church, or public school, then what is the point? At that point, the law enforcement officers you already have will have taken the matter over.

If you are going to find them before they start blowing people into bitty pieces, government will have to start collecting a lot of data on a large number of people and have professionals available to assess it. We have no capacity to do this at this time in anything like a reliable way.

Here is what we know and can do, if guns are very difficult to obtain, deranged people will be far less likely to own them and use them.

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Response to quaker bill (Reply #15)

Sat May 28, 2022, 07:17 AM

24. re:"Reasonable ingress and egress standards for fire safety...rule out a single access point"

Last edited Sat May 28, 2022, 08:21 AM - Edit history (1)

There are door designs and lock designs that can easily be opened from the inside, but not from the outside.

There are still situations where that can be problematic, but it's not necessarily a bad idea (though certainly also not a total solution by itself).

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Response to quaker bill (Reply #15)

Sat May 28, 2022, 12:12 PM

31. I often wondered how many guns...

...were in the theater in Colorado some years ago when the gunman slipped in the back door and began spraying bullets from an assault rifle. No one returned that fire in a state that encouraged concealed carry. There had to be at least 10 guns carried by good guys "for their protection", but not one used it.

They ran like everyone else because they knew drawing and firing would make them the next target.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #31)

Sat May 28, 2022, 01:03 PM

34. Remember the setting -

a darkened theater, confusion, people hiding and running and screaming, rapidly moving targets constantly obscuring your (limited) vision - if you had a gun, where would you aim it? You could wind up killing as many people as the gunman. You can't shoot safely when you can't see. The gunman doesn't have that problem: He just wants to kill everybody, so he just plans to shoot everywhere until he runs out of ammo.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 10:05 PM

16. And just think 200 plus congress people follow this complete ASSHOLE

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #16)

Fri May 27, 2022, 10:13 PM

17. Unbelievable - what is wrong with our education system??

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #16)

Sun May 29, 2022, 05:17 AM

44. Unreal

He's like the Pied Piper.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 10:24 PM

18. An end to Gun Free School Zones?

The Supreme Court already did that in 1995. Ended Federal Gun Free School Zones in the case of US Vs. Lopez. Where the hell have you been, Don?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/93-1260.ZO.html

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 10:40 PM

19. Time to post this again.

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Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #19)

Sat May 28, 2022, 08:20 AM

27. LOL

First time seeing this for me. How apropos.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 12:51 AM

21. "Clearly, we need to make it far easier

to confine the violent and mentally deranged into mental institutions"

Absent due process, of course.

Trump, head of the neo-fascist right.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 12:52 AM

22. Wow un-American pos.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 01:04 AM

23. take advice from a career " LOSER" ! --- I THINK NOT !

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 08:00 AM

25. He was speaking from a gun free zone.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 08:18 AM

26. Another asshole idea

No one can have guns around him, he doesn't give a shit about anyone else. It's nice to know he wants our schools to look like maximum security prisons.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 08:44 AM

28. Ironic title: "Leadership Forum"

Trump didn't do ANY of that in the four years he was TFG. Worst president in our history. Without a doubt. And by a landslide.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 10:44 AM

29. The circle is now complete Reagan started closure of the mental institutions and TFG wants to

Reopen them. The Republican party is no longer the Reagan party but the maga party now.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 12:04 PM

30. "Lock up deranged people"?

Can you imagine who the Trump administration would consider "deranged"?
Half of congress and every late night TV host would be in some mental facility in Siberia...I mean Montana.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 12:22 PM

32. I actually wondered if this was The Onion

But sadly I'm no longer surprised this is reality

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Response to Laha (Reply #32)

Sun May 29, 2022, 06:51 AM

45. That was / is always the problem for a satire site like The Onion

It is really hard to be a parody of something so absurd that it is already a "parody" of itself.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 12:51 PM

33. Eeasier confinement of Trump would be a good thing.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 02:54 PM

35. If more guns is the answer then why were guns banned at the NRA party?

Wouldn't trump be safer with more guns.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 03:18 PM

36. And he urged the gun-free zones while speaking in a gun-free zone. Big tough guy.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 06:05 PM

37. "Strong fencing..." a fucking joke ...

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 06:13 PM

38. HA!! No ticket required......

He should PAY anyone who is stupid enough to show up.... OMG.... and Americans paid to get to Houston for this?

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 06:55 PM

39. Rooting for the firearm(s) aimed at him from now on?

What is with all this super stupid evil dumbness?

There had better heaps of blackmail on every one of these disgusting stooge actors.

If they sold us out cheap, hang them upside down in a barn in undisclosed BFE and allow post death recordings of them suffering to air on PBS and Y.T. please.

OOF

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 07:00 PM

40. What? Braveheart didn't recommend bunkers in all schools?

Bunkers are terribly effective against peaceful demonstrators.

He should be careful what he suggests, raking forests, nuking hurricanes, Revolutionary War airfields, changing a hurricane with a Sharpie, China shooting us with hurricane guns.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 07:25 PM

41. The Capital was locked up like a fortress, with armed guards

and Trump's goons still got in. He can take his ideas and shove them up his flaming orange ass.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2022, 09:00 PM

42. And I'm urging for a Trump free zone.

One that covers the planet, except for Rikers Island.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun May 29, 2022, 01:13 AM

43. The myth of the cowboy

The quintessential good guy with a gun who can right all wrongs. It’s a TV myth with little to back it up.

TFG needs to stop watching those early 60s westerns and read a few statistics about murder America.

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