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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,757 posts)
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:44 PM May 2022

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton justifies his anti-gun control stance by saying laws against murde

Source: Business Insider

murder didn't prevent school shooting

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said gun laws are "not the right focus" after a mass shooting at a Texas elementary school that left 19 children and two teachers dead.

"Look, we already have laws against killing people and this guy apparently didn't care what the law was," Paxton said during an interview with the conservative Newsmax TV channel. "Having a gun law that told him not to have a gun I don't think would've stopped any of this. So I think that's not the right focus."

Police said the gunman, who died at the scene Tuesday in Uvalde, Texas, was carrying a handgun, an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle and high-capacity magazines.

White House Digital Director Rob Flaherty retweeted the interview clip from his personal account and mocked Paxton's response, writing "'Laws don't work' - guy who enforces laws."




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Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton justifies his anti-gun control stance by saying laws against murde (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2022 OP
Ka - Ching. Money from NRA to Paxton on it's way. Scrivener7 May 2022 #1
I've got to admit, Paxton is kind of an expert at ignoring laws and doing whatever suits him. Midnight Writer May 2022 #2
His tactic when under fire BumRushDaShow May 2022 #4
that's what psychopaths do. nt Javaman May 2022 #5
GD him to hell too Marthe48 May 2022 #3
This link briefly tells you the direction that Texas lawhas been traveling. Chainfire May 2022 #10
Idiot. Murder is after the fact. 1st step is getting the gun. Fla Dem May 2022 #6
You have to understand something! atreides1 May 2022 #19
Get em before then manicdem May 2022 #20
May he, and his enablers, receive everything they deserve. niyad May 2022 #7
Well, since we have not tried to limit the availability of high-capacity carbines Chainfire May 2022 #8
Following that logic, we should have no law at all. AZLD4Candidate May 2022 #9
I think we are there Marthe48 May 2022 #11
If 21 rich assholes had been killed instead, I wonder if this is how it would go? Brainfodder May 2022 #12
too bad it was keroro gunsou May 2022 #15
If we want to be true to the intent of the Founders, only muskets should be legal. Lonestarblue May 2022 #13
and the militia HighFired49 May 2022 #17
Paxton is criminal scum dalton99a May 2022 #14
Having gun laws "wouldn't have stopped any of this"? patphil May 2022 #16
Background check at stores manicdem May 2022 #21
Two background checks were passed. ManiacJoe May 2022 #23
That's simply a check with a federal database to see if the person has a criminal record. patphil May 2022 #25
Murder can be accomplished by many means. Guns make it EASY Warpy May 2022 #18
He'll be at the NRA convention with his hand out Emile May 2022 #22
He won't do anything about the school shooting problem... jmowreader May 2022 #24
Can I just point out the first place many kids receive mental health care JCMach1 May 2022 #26
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 May 2022 #27

BumRushDaShow

(128,509 posts)
4. His tactic when under fire
Wed May 25, 2022, 01:04 PM
May 2022

is to suddenly file lawsuits against some blue-governed state for some made-up nonsense, in order to "grab the media cycle" by yelling "Squirrel!!", and take the pressure off of his having to come up with more bullshit.

Meanwhile the AG of PA (who is running for governor) noted this -




Josh Shapiro
@JoshShapiroPA
·
May 25, 2022
Now is a time when every leader needs to say what they’re for — and how they're going to make our schools safe.

I’ll start with a few things:
Josh Shapiro
@JoshShapiroPA
We’re going to put a mental health counselor in every school, and give every student access to telemental health.

We’re going to close the ghost gun loophole.

We’re going to enact universal background checks.

We’re going to finally pass red flag laws in Pennsylvania.
12:37 PM · May 25, 2022






Josh Shapiro
@JoshShapiroPA
·
May 25, 2022
Replying to @JoshShapiroPA
We’re going to put a mental health counselor in every school, and give every student access to telemental health.

We’re going to close the ghost gun loophole.

We’re going to enact universal background checks.

We’re going to finally pass red flag laws in Pennsylvania.
Josh Shapiro
@JoshShapiroPA
I refuse to accept a reality where our children have to fear for their lives every time they go into the classroom.

We have a moral obligation to act.
12:37 PM · May 25, 2022

Fla Dem

(23,590 posts)
6. Idiot. Murder is after the fact. 1st step is getting the gun.
Wed May 25, 2022, 01:07 PM
May 2022

No gun, no mass slaughter of children. Sure, he could have used a knife, but pretty sure 21 human beings would not have been killed.

Stupid argument.

atreides1

(16,067 posts)
19. You have to understand something!
Wed May 25, 2022, 04:50 PM
May 2022

Paxton is talking to all those gun humping Texans who don't really care about the safety of their children...if it means a little inconvenience...


Face it, those great defenders of the 2nd Amendment would stand and watch as entire schools were decimated...

Chainfire

(17,474 posts)
8. Well, since we have not tried to limit the availability of high-capacity carbines
Wed May 25, 2022, 01:23 PM
May 2022

we don't know. But what we can do is look at firearm murders in countries that have tried it. If we look at Great Britain, the total number of gun murders was 33 people for a year. our count was over 17,000 including over 300 children...You can still own, collect and shoot guns in Merry old England, but ownership and regulations are quite restrictive. The numbers should tell us that strict regulation of firearms does work.

The Republican solution is do nothing, and they have a book of excuses to justify their judgement beginning with The Constitution. When you look to what is actually happening in the States, the Republican solution is less gun restrictions. The governor in Florida has promised that he will bring "Constitutional Carry" to the state before he leaves office. One of many in recent years. The bottom line is that the Republicans have operate on a calculus based upon money and power on on one hand and human lives on the other. So far, the cost in lives is less than the value received from lightly restricted gun ownership.

Nothing changes unless the people demand change. Demanding change will also come with a cost. We have to be willing to go face to face with the people carrying the guns. Who among us are going to do that rather than just talk about it? Offering thoughts and prayers to limit guns is no different than offering thoughts and prayers to the victims. When you write to your Congress person it has about as much effect as pissing into the ocean to raise the sea level. Politicians only pay attention to mail accompanied by big campaign checks with promises of more to come. You just as well learn how to live with the massacres for they certainly are not over.

Where is our "million voter march" on Washington demanding to change gun laws?

Marthe48

(16,904 posts)
11. I think we are there
Wed May 25, 2022, 01:46 PM
May 2022

On my usual drive into town today, I watched numerous drivers ignore speed limits, and stop signs, with no consequences. And on the national and international stage, we see some people commit one crime after another, and face no personal consequences. I know justice is slow, but from scofflaw drivers to criminal traitors, if there are no consequences, what good are laws?

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
12. If 21 rich assholes had been killed instead, I wonder if this is how it would go?
Wed May 25, 2022, 01:56 PM
May 2022


But yeah, we can't talk about sensible changes in laws!










Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
13. If we want to be true to the intent of the Founders, only muskets should be legal.
Wed May 25, 2022, 02:18 PM
May 2022

The SC originalists should have fun twisting that into a pretzel since they’re already eliminated the phrase, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,” and ignored the inconvenient fact that the US had no standing army at the time and the militia was in place of an army.

HighFired49

(346 posts)
17. and the militia
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:54 PM
May 2022

was called up WITH their own weapons, as the new government couldn't afford to arm all of their conscripts. Hell, to be a citizen of some frontier towns back then, it was mandatory for all male citizens of some towns to own guns to protect against Native Americans who were trying to stop the invaders, and bands of robbers, etc. Our standing army took care of the necessity to arm regular citizens. After a while, when lots of larger towns organized sheriffs and deputies sufficient to protect their citizens, many didn't allow carrying guns into town/city limits because too many people were being killed in personal squabbles. But, let's just ignore history...

patphil

(6,150 posts)
16. Having gun laws "wouldn't have stopped any of this"?
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:33 PM
May 2022

The kid turned 18 and bought some assault guns. No background check, no restriction of any sort on a young boy buying deadly weapons that are only used to kill people. And this less than two weeks after another young boy murdered all those people at a Buffalo supermarket.
You think there should have been a law in place that would have required the gun store to at least notify police. But in Texas gun ownership is a more important than life itself.
And life is cheap...the cost of a bullet.

manicdem

(387 posts)
21. Background check at stores
Wed May 25, 2022, 07:08 PM
May 2022

If he bought these at a gun store he wouldve gotten a background check. I'm guessing he didn't have anything on his criminal record since he was 18.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
23. Two background checks were passed.
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:35 PM
May 2022

He bought the rifles at a local gun store on two separate days.

patphil

(6,150 posts)
25. That's simply a check with a federal database to see if the person has a criminal record.
Fri May 27, 2022, 11:43 PM
May 2022

Totally inadequate.
Texas has nothing at the state level, also no red flag law that might have kicked in with the second purchase.
All he needed was the ability to pay and the guns were his.

Warpy

(111,164 posts)
18. Murder can be accomplished by many means. Guns make it EASY
Wed May 25, 2022, 04:04 PM
May 2022

Mass murder without guns requires clean thinking and extensive planning and even then, more people survive with injuries than are typically killed. Even 9/11 saw more people in the three buildings survive than were killed by those maniacs.

No, you dumbassed toady to the NRA, if you want maximum killing power and low survivability, you pick up a semi auto rifle and you use it at close range. Oh, and if you're really brave, you shoot kids or old people in church or people shopping for groceries. Those are your people Abbott, and you need to own them because you armed them, you and every other Republican who has knuckled under to the NRA for decades, but especially you for signing such reckless legislation in Texas.

Emile

(22,505 posts)
22. He'll be at the NRA convention with his hand out
Wed May 25, 2022, 07:20 PM
May 2022

grabbing up the gun lobby free money and pointing his finger at democrats who are trying to do something about it.

jmowreader

(50,529 posts)
24. He won't do anything about the school shooting problem...
Fri May 27, 2022, 08:45 PM
May 2022

...but I bet he enforces the living fuck out of that abortion ban.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
26. Can I just point out the first place many kids receive mental health care
Sat May 28, 2022, 12:48 AM
May 2022

Initially in Texas is Juvenile Detention...

It's never just one thing Paxton. It literally takes the whole F'ing village

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