Thu May 12, 2022, 03:32 PM
ificandream (2,260 posts)
Louisiana debates murder charge for women who get abortions
Source: Associated Press/Kevin McGill
NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Louisiana’s House of Representatives, venturing farther against abortion than lawmakers in any other state, is debating a bill to make women who end their pregnancies subject to criminal homicide prosecutions. Republican Rep. Danny McCormick pushed for a House floor debate on his bill Thursday afternoon despite a crescendo of opposition from traditional supporters of abortion rights and longtime foes of legal abortion. Louisiana’s anti-abortion governor said he’d veto it, and Louisiana Right to Life and the Louisiana Conference of Catholic Bishops are against it. “To suggest that a woman would be jailed for an abortion is simply absurd,” Gov. John Bel Edwards, a devout Catholic and a Democrat who has long broken with his party on the abortion issue, said in a news release Wednesday. (snip) McCormick disagrees, saying a woman who has an abortion should be in the same legal position as a woman who takes the life of a child after birth. “When I give equal protection to the unborn, that’s the possibility,” he said in a Wednesday evening phone interview. Read more: https://apnews.com/article/abortion-us-supreme-court-health-religion-louisiana-b73a7cfb0afc29c30d106a85c80c7c50 The demented minds of the GOP strike again. Let's hope this one doesn't advance.
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ificandream | May 12 | OP |
hibbing | May 12 | #1 | |
Trueblue1968 | May 12 | #2 | |
SharonClark | May 12 | #3 | |
DownriverDem | May 12 | #4 | |
ruet | May 12 | #5 | |
Lonestarblue | May 12 | #6 | |
Lettuce Be | May 12 | #7 | |
bucolic_frolic | May 12 | #8 | |
Brainfodder | May 12 | #9 | |
MOMFUDSKI | May 12 | #12 | |
tanyev | May 12 | #10 | |
LudwigPastorius | May 12 | #11 | |
tishaLA | May 12 | #13 | |
ificandream | May 12 | #16 | |
Hekate | May 12 | #14 | |
Grins | May 12 | #15 | |
riversedge | May 13 | #17 | |
Eugene | May 13 | #18 |
Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 03:38 PM
hibbing (9,117 posts)
1. So 26 states will do this too n/t
Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 03:38 PM
Trueblue1968 (15,278 posts)
2. the NORTH won the civil war and will do it agin.
Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 03:39 PM
SharonClark (8,705 posts)
3. Every GQP candidate should have this insanity tied
around their necks.
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Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 03:41 PM
DownriverDem (5,404 posts)
4. No wonder
young folks are furious with MAGA repubs.
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Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 03:44 PM
ruet (9,392 posts)
5. The Dogs That Caught the Car. -NT-
Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 03:53 PM
Lonestarblue (5,522 posts)
6. So the women with an ectopic pregnancy has a choice.
Have an abortion and live but spend life in jail or do not have an abortion and bleed to death. Gee, what great family values these Republicans have. Sadistic bastards.
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Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 04:20 PM
Lettuce Be (1,859 posts)
7. Wouldn't expert medical witnesses be able to explain life does not begin at conception?
The other side would have to have an expert witness willing to claim (against all scientific evidence) that life begins at conception, which is absurd. Just curious what the medical community is thinking?
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Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 04:37 PM
bucolic_frolic (31,906 posts)
8. How well will a murder charge fit the facts?
For murder you need a motive. Will any mens rea fit? "I did this for my own benefit, for my own reasons, for my own person, to improve my future" is a puzzling fit to the motive for murder.
There are also facts. Weapon, body, person murdered. Any such cases will have a bit to overcome, and heads straight into the murky is a fetus a person? |
Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 05:17 PM
Brainfodder (4,284 posts)
9. This cocky ignorant bunch doesn't think Republicans get any of the M of abortions each year?
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Response to Brainfodder (Reply #9)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:23 PM
MOMFUDSKI (857 posts)
12. If this goes down per the Supremes
the repub voters' daughters, wives, girlfriends will be as pissed as the Democratic Women are right now. They will find out the hard way that they aren't important - even as repub-supporting gals. Could work out for the Country.
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Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 05:23 PM
tanyev (37,461 posts)
10. Which would create the very real scenario of rapists getting off scot-free,
while their victims get charged with murder. Among a whole host of other nightmare scenarios.
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Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 05:24 PM
LudwigPastorius (4,324 posts)
11. Insanity.
Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:48 PM
tishaLA (13,482 posts)
13. They're really, really overplaying their hands
Even in such a Catholic state, I can't imagine BS like this is going to fly with voters.
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Response to tishaLA (Reply #13)
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:47 PM
ificandream (2,260 posts)
16. Given the objections from the Catholic Church, I would hope not.
Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:46 PM
Hekate (76,346 posts)
14. Fanaticism is truly ugly. I present to you the Ayatollah McCormick & his fatwa against women.
In Washington DC is Ayatollah Alito, and his fatwa against women.
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Response to ificandream (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:43 PM
Grins (4,993 posts)
15. All this was predicted years ago...
As the crazie’s next step.
And here we are. That they are actually debating this horror. America! Fuck yeah! And thank you, Supreme Court conservatives! Without you…. |
Response to ificandream (Original post)
Fri May 13, 2022, 11:44 AM
riversedge (63,642 posts)
17. It is issues like this that manytimes I do not believe it is 2022 in the US!!
Response to ificandream (Original post)
Fri May 13, 2022, 09:49 PM
Eugene (54,388 posts)
18. New headline at link: No more murder charge for women in Louisiana abortion bill
No more murder charge for women in Louisiana abortion bill
NEW ORLEANS (AP) — The sponsor of a bill that would have subjected Louisiana women to murder charges for having abortions abruptly pulled the proposal from debate Thursday night after House members voted 65-26 to totally revamp the legislation, eliminating the criminal penalties.
https://apnews.com/article/abortion-us-supreme-court-health-religion-louisiana-b73a7cfb0afc29c30d106a85c80c7c50 |