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California violated the Second Amendment with semiautomatic rifle age restriction, court finds Read

Source: The Sacramento Bee

California’s 2019 law prohibiting people under 21 from buying semiautomatic rifles violates the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled on Wednesday.

“America would not exist without the heroism of the young adults who fought and died in our revolutionary army. Today we reaffirm that our Constitution still protects the right that enabled their sacrifice: the right of young adults to keep and bear arms,” wrote Judge Ryan Nelson, who was named to the court by President Donald J. Trump.

The panel reversed a district court ruling, saying that it “erred in not enjoining an almost total ban on semiautomatic centerfire rifles,” according to the opinion.

The case in question, Jones v. Bonta, was brought before the court by the Firearms Policy Coalition, a gun advocacy organization, which hailed the court’s ruling in a statement.

Read more: https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article261355502.html

Are people adults at 18 or 21?

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California violated the Second Amendment with semiautomatic rifle age restriction, court finds Read (Original post)	ripcord	May 12	OP
Gun-humpers aren't adults.	Hoyt	May 12	#1
Here we go again with this "originalist" bullshit.	FalloutShelter	May 12	#2
So we don't think they're responsible enough to drink alcohol at 18, but a deadly weapon, no problem	onecaliberal	May 12	#3
Well, they're considered to be responsible enough to join the military at 18. n/t	OnlinePoker	May 12	#6
Indeed. Such a backwards country.	onecaliberal	May 12	#10
The age limit law in California	Mr.Bill	May 12	#26
Actually you can join at 17 with parental permission nt	EX500rider	May 12	#36
This is an interesting question. I know you can join at 17 (as were some of my West Point	24601	May 12	#40
Funny, the 9th circuit is on the liberal side.	malthaussen	May 12	#4
Much less liberal than it used to be	dpibel	May 12	#12
What's so magic about 18? Why not at the Age of Consent?	maxsolomon	May 12	#5
18 is the Age of Consent in California. n/t	malthaussen	May 12	#14
Finally our laws make sense.	maxsolomon	May 12	#16
2nd amendment protected individual rights to own what was essentially the accepted state-or-the-art	24601	May 12	#42
Also at that time 13 year old girls were getting married to much older men.	SmittyWerben	May 12	#7
Post removed	Post removed	May 12	#8
You sound like a nice person.	maxsolomon	May 12	#20
The misery of those who would take away	The Mouth	May 12	#23
No one's taking anyone's guns in either of our lifetimes.	maxsolomon	May 12	#35
Why can't semi-automatic and other high assault weapons be banned. That bars no one from owning	Samrob	May 12	#9
America will experience a boomlet in psychiatrists	bucolic_frolic	May 12	#11
"Are people adults at 18 or 21?". That's a good, but not great, question.	jaxexpat	May 12	#13
so now what about all those other laws?	Hieronymus Phact	May 12	#15
A well regulated militia!!	rolypolychloe	May 12	#17
Yeah, that ship has sailed.	maxsolomon	May 12	#19
According to the Supreme Court there are two parts to the 2nd Amendment.	marie999	May 12	#32
A tortured interpretation	rolypolychloe	May 12	#37
Not with the Supreme Court we have now.	marie999	May 12	#38
Dred Scott was 7-2 which proves a super majority court is not always right either.	cstanleytech	May 13	#45
guns, guns, guns	llashram	May 12	#18
AND WHERE ARE OUR RIGHTS... TO BE FREE FROM GUNSHOTS, ETC?	secondwind	May 12	#21
I sometimes wonder...	jmowreader	May 12	#22
Firearms training and the requirement to securely store all firearms away when not on your person.	cstanleytech	May 12	#25
The Supreme Court would find the law unconstitutional. See my post 32.	marie999	May 12	#33
Modify the law to hold a driver's license with a provision	cstanleytech	May 12	#24
California law very clearly	Mr.Bill	May 12	#27
Plus the stae can argue that to declare such a law unconstitutional	cstanleytech	May 12	#29
So... does this mean a 21 drinking age is Unconstitutional? NT	Happy Hoosier	May 12	#28
Not to mention the age of consent to have sex laws.	cstanleytech	May 12	#30
Age of consent is 16-17 in most of the US	madville	May 12	#43
Yup but it could be argued that any such age limitations imposed upon a person	cstanleytech	May 13	#44
Drinking is not a Constitutional right.	former9thward	May 12	#39
Well, it sorta is, cause prohibition was done by constitutional amendment ...	Hugh_Lebowski	May 13	#47
No, the selling of alcohol was prohibited.	former9thward	May 13	#48
stupid repug judges. they may also bring us back to a time when children under 10 could be married	samsingh	May 12	#31
the age of majority should be set nationwide for all rights	melm00se	May 12	#34
They went to court because not enough minors had semi-automatic weapons?	Grins	May 12	#41
A 20 year old is not a minor.	Dial H For Hero	May 13	#46
Clearly this is a prelude to overturning state AWBs and magazine capacity restrictions.	J_William_Ryan	May 14	#49

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Thu May 12, 2022, 12:19 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

California violated the Second Amendment with semiautomatic rifle age restriction, court finds Read

1. Gun-humpers aren't adults.

2. Here we go again with this "originalist" bullshit.

3. So we don't think they're responsible enough to drink alcohol at 18, but a deadly weapon, no problem

6. Well, they're considered to be responsible enough to join the military at 18. n/t

10. Indeed. Such a backwards country.

26. The age limit law in California

36. Actually you can join at 17 with parental permission nt

40. This is an interesting question. I know you can join at 17 (as were some of my West Point

4. Funny, the 9th circuit is on the liberal side.

12. Much less liberal than it used to be

5. What's so magic about 18? Why not at the Age of Consent?

14. 18 *is* the Age of Consent in California. n/t

16. Finally our laws make sense.

42. 2nd amendment protected individual rights to own what was essentially the accepted state-or-the-art

7. Also at that time 13 year old girls were getting married to much older men.

20. You sound like a nice person.

23. The misery of those who would take away

35. No one's taking anyone's guns in either of our lifetimes.

9. Why can't semi-automatic and other high assault weapons be banned. That bars no one from owning

11. America will experience a boomlet in psychiatrists

13. "Are people adults at 18 or 21?". That's a good, but not great, question.

15. so now what about all those other laws?

17. A well regulated militia!!

19. Yeah, that ship has sailed.

32. According to the Supreme Court there are two parts to the 2nd Amendment.

37. A tortured interpretation

38. Not with the Supreme Court we have now.

45. Dred Scott was 7-2 which proves a super majority court is not always right either.

18. guns, guns, guns

21. AND WHERE ARE OUR RIGHTS... TO BE FREE FROM GUNSHOTS, ETC?

22. I sometimes wonder...

25. Firearms training and the requirement to securely store all firearms away when not on your person.

33. The Supreme Court would find the law unconstitutional. See my post 32.

24. Modify the law to hold a driver's license with a provision

27. California law very clearly

29. Plus the stae can argue that to declare such a law unconstitutional

28. So... does this mean a 21 drinking age is Unconstitutional? NT

30. Not to mention the age of consent to have sex laws.

43. Age of consent is 16-17 in most of the US

44. Yup but it could be argued that any such age limitations imposed upon a person

39. Drinking is not a Constitutional right.

47. Well, it sorta is, cause prohibition was done by constitutional amendment ...

48. No, the selling of alcohol was prohibited.

31. stupid repug judges. they may also bring us back to a time when children under 10 could be married

34. the age of majority should be set nationwide for all rights

41. They went to court because not enough minors had semi-automatic weapons?

46. A 20 year old is not a minor.

49. Clearly this is a prelude to overturning state AWBs and magazine capacity restrictions.

14. 18 is the Age of Consent in California. n/t