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Thu May 12, 2022, 10:57 AM

$1 Trillion Crypto Meltdown--Huge Crash Wipes Out The Price Of Bitcoin, Ethereum, BNB, XRP, Cardano

Source: Forbes

Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies have crashed further overnight, dropping to levels not seen since the crypto market began surging in late 2020 and wiping away almost $1 trillion worth of value in a month as a serious "ripple" warning comes into effect.

The bitcoin price has dropped to around $27,000 per bitcoin, down 12% on the last 24 hours, and dragging down the wider crypto market with other top ten coins ethereum, BNB BNB -9.6%, XRP XRP -19%, solana, cardano, and avalanche recording even steeper loses. Ethereum has crashed 22% since this time yesterday, with BNB, XRP, solana, cardano and avalanche all lossing between 25% and 33%.

The sell-off comes after the $18 billion algorithmic stablecoin terraUSD (UST) lost its peg to the U.S. dollar, wiping out the price of its support coin luna which has now lost almost 99% of its value—and risks dragging the bitcoin and crypto market even lower.

Read more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2022/05/12/1-trillion-crypto-meltdown-huge-crash-wipes-out-the-price-of-bitcoin-ethereum-bnb-xrp-cardano-solana-terras-luna-and-avalanche/



Bitcoin has recovered to $28K+ but remains below its historical support at $30K. https://www.google.com/finance/quote/BTC-USD

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Reply $1 Trillion Crypto Meltdown--Huge Crash Wipes Out The Price Of Bitcoin, Ethereum, BNB, XRP, Cardano (Original post)
speak easy May 12 OP
greenjar_01 May 12 #1
OldBaldy1701E May 12 #4
sybylla May 12 #46
Magoo48 May 12 #50
eppur_se_muova May 12 #60
speak easy May 12 #7
Stuckinthebush May 12 #21
speak easy May 12 #22
Stuckinthebush May 12 #23
IronLionZion May 12 #32
speak easy May 12 #33
Shipwack May 12 #47
jimfields33 May 12 #14
ProfessorGAC May 12 #49
jimfields33 May 12 #51
bucolic_frolic May 12 #2
greenjar_01 May 12 #3
FalloutShelter May 12 #11
CrispyQ May 12 #5
oldsoftie May 12 #39
CrispyQ May 12 #42
PatrickforB May 12 #6
disndat May 13 #67
hatrack May 12 #8
Mr. Evil May 12 #12
GB_RN May 12 #9
Oneironaut May 13 #70
hunter May 13 #73
Uncle Joe May 12 #10
oldsoftie May 12 #40
HUAJIAO May 12 #13
DinahMoeHum May 12 #15
keithbvadu2 May 12 #38
oldsoftie May 12 #41
orwell May 12 #16
NCjack May 12 #17
CrispyQ May 12 #43
Shipwack May 12 #53
Tomconroy May 12 #18
Xipe Totec May 12 #19
speak easy May 12 #24
3Hotdogs May 12 #57
louis-t May 13 #68
TygrBright May 12 #20
Samrob May 12 #25
patphil May 12 #26
mahatmakanejeeves May 12 #27
speak easy May 12 #28
in2herbs May 12 #29
William Seger May 12 #30
turbinetree May 12 #31
IronLionZion May 12 #34
Lucky Luciano May 12 #44
louis-t May 12 #35
Unwind Your Mind May 12 #56
BumRushDaShow May 13 #71
keithbvadu2 May 12 #36
Akoto May 12 #37
dalton99a May 12 #45
canetoad May 12 #48
BumRushDaShow May 12 #52
louis-t May 13 #69
Brainfodder May 12 #54
Aussie105 May 12 #55
rpannier May 12 #58
7wo7rees May 12 #59
SunSeeker May 13 #61
JustABozoOnThisBus May 13 #62
speak easy May 13 #63
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mahatmakanejeeves May 13 #64
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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:00 AM

1. ROFL

"the $18 billion algorithmic stablecoin terraUSD (UST) lost its peg to the U.S. dollar"

Honestly, people fell for this bullshit?



His wastrel cousin lost his fortune. No, dear reader, it was not at the cards table, but through the algorithmic stablecoin terraUSD, and its algorithmic connection to Luna.

This is absolutely the dumbest Victorian novel ever written!

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #1)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:04 AM

4. HA HA!

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #4)

Thu May 12, 2022, 03:00 PM

46. +1 n/t

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #4)

Thu May 12, 2022, 04:07 PM

50. I'd love to see it meltdown and disappear. It's a disaster for our environment.

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #50)

Thu May 12, 2022, 10:02 PM

60. THIS !!!

Megawatts consumed for nothing. The more energy you burn, the greater the value of the currency ?? Sheer insanity.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #1)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:09 AM

7. ...

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Response to speak easy (Reply #7)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:02 PM

21. Tulip bulbs are worthless???

Who would have ever seen that coming?

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #21)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:05 PM

22. There is actually a joke crypto called TulipCoin

Price $0.00

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Response to speak easy (Reply #22)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:06 PM

23. Love it!

Brilliant!

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Response to speak easy (Reply #22)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:46 PM

32. So it's free!

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #32)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:50 PM

33. Whales are welcome!

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Response to speak easy (Reply #33)

Thu May 12, 2022, 03:23 PM

47. "I wonder if it will be my friend?" nt

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #1)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:38 AM

14. The stock market is down. Not 27 percent but 15 percent or so

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #14)

Thu May 12, 2022, 03:44 PM

49. The Value Drops In The OP Snip...

...refer to losses in 24 hours.
Your comparison doesn't seem apt.
The Dow is down 14.17% since January 4. That was 98 days ago.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #49)

Thu May 12, 2022, 04:24 PM

51. You make a good point for sure

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:01 AM

2. QE Elevator an open mine shaft

Who knew? NFT's next?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #2)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:03 AM

3. The clown show of the NFTs is really gone full circus now

They're panicking in the sub-reddits, I tell you!

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #3)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:33 AM

11. NFT's are already beginning to flat line.

As a fine artist, I am cheering for a quick demise.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:05 AM

5. A friend has 3 bitcoin she bought for an average of $1800 a piece.

She never pays attention to the price. I told her a few months ago that Bitcoin was at 69K & she said she never plans on selling it. Seriously??? She could have cleared over $200,000. Oh well.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #5)

Thu May 12, 2022, 01:45 PM

39. She's read that in a few years it'll be 100,000.

We have some big crypto backers here

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #39)

Thu May 12, 2022, 02:15 PM

42. When I was young I would have hung onto a $4800 investment that was still at trading at $30k, too.

But today? Man, could I use a couple hundred K! She's about 20 years younger than me so I get it.

on edit: fixed my math error.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:08 AM

6. LOL, yep. NEVER invest in something you do not understand.

I sure don't 'get' bitcoin. If you read up on it, you might get through about a page, then have an out-of-body experience.

Fiat currency at a whole new level.

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Response to PatrickforB (Reply #6)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:29 AM

67. some wise wall streeter

said early on the bitcoin is a Ponzi Scheme. He's proved to be exactly right.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:15 AM

8. Wow, who could POSSIBLY have forseen this?

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Response to hatrack (Reply #8)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:36 AM

12. The people who got in early and...

cashed out early. Now, where have we seen this process before? Hmmm...

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:20 AM

9. This Crap Was Always A Scam...

Literally anyone can create a cryptocurrency.

Criminals love them because cryptocurrencies are untraceable.

They aren’t backed by anything, unlike sovereign currencies. Makes it very easy to lose your ass.



Investment firms have gotten in on this hype and started selling investments in crypto. When your job is to give people SOUND and SOLID advice and investments, this is a spectacularly bad move, IMO. No ethical financial advisor should be pushing these things. This will be a case study in business schools one day.

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Response to GB_RN (Reply #9)

Fri May 13, 2022, 11:19 AM

70. I mean, money itself is kind of a delusion.

I’m not really pro-cryptocurrency, but, anything can be a currency if people believe it has value and are willing to exchange it for capital.

The dollar bill is essentially just an IOU for gold that doesn’t exist.

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Response to Oneironaut (Reply #70)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:30 PM

73. That's not true. And basing money on some gold standard is just as stupid as bitcoin.

Cryptocurrencies and gold hoarding are both environmentally destructive behaviors, and neither can support a stable economic system.

The U.S.A. rightfully abandoned any vestiges of a gold based monetary system in 1971, although this wasn't made official until 1976. The destructive gold standard was first killed by FDR in 1932. In 1944 FDR-hating conservatives reclaimed its maggot ridden corpse until Nixon reburied it. (Nixon did many things our twenty first century "conservatives" can't understand -- stupid fascists, grifters, and meat puppets all of them.)

Be that as it may, modern twenty-first century "hard" currencies like the dollar are based on the ability of a government to collect taxes, enforce contracts, and regulate markets.

"Softer" currencies are issued by governments that have less competence to do this because of corruption and/or impractical ideologies and economic theories.

Even the old school Chinese Communists seem to understand this and listen to their technocrats, which is how China became a superpower as kleptocratic Russia falls apart.

Here in the U.S.A. our increasing inability to tax and regulate giant corporations and billionaires may lead to our own demise as a superpower.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:24 AM

10. It's just another vehicle to transfer wealth to the oligarchs of the world.

Thanks for the thread speak easy.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #10)

Thu May 12, 2022, 01:48 PM

40. How exactly does it do that at all?

Not that I'm a supporter, but its not a product. No "oligarch" owns it & is selling it to us peasants.
We ALL could have bought it for $30 bucks. I actually had a friend at that price who told me to "just put 1000 in it; I really believe its going places'. I bought NONE of course!

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:36 AM

13. I never could figure out what cryptocurrency even is.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:39 AM

15. "Rat poison squared". . ."Trading in turds"

are what Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger have said over the years about this electronic tulip mania.

Google the names and phrases for further insight.

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #15)

Thu May 12, 2022, 01:28 PM

38. Bitcoin is stupid 'cause it's very likely to go to zero,' says Charlie Munger

https://www.google.com/search?q=munger&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com

Bitcoin is stupid 'cause it's very likely to go to zero,' says Charlie Munger

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #15)

Thu May 12, 2022, 01:49 PM

41. Then Buffett put 1 Billion into a crypto bank.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:45 AM

16. But...but...but...

...it's the NEW MONEY! It's based on ALGORYTHMS! It's LIBERTARIAN!

It's THE PEOPLE'S MONEY! I've been GETTING RICH ON NOTHING!

It's not controlled by an evil CENTRL BANK!

It has AN APP!

We sponsor BASKETBALL COURTS!

We have COMMERCIALS ON TV!

What could go wrong...

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:45 AM

17. "A fool and his money were lucky

to get together in the first place." (Harry Anderson, played Judge Harry Stone on “Night Court”)

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Response to NCjack (Reply #17)

Thu May 12, 2022, 02:17 PM

43. I am literally LOLing at that!



I never saw that show. Is it worth looking for it?

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #43)

Thu May 12, 2022, 06:06 PM

53. Yes it is! It's not "Citizen Kane"", but it was a fun long running sitcom.

They are even going to have a sequa; not sure how I feel about that…

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:45 AM

18. I vaguely remember from Econ 101 that a currency must be

1. A store of value
2. A means of exchange

How's that working out for bitcoin?

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:52 AM

19. This is a great time to invest in tulips! nt

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #19)

Thu May 12, 2022, 07:53 PM

57. Nah, I got a better deal for yiz... land in Florida!

Right now, the ground is a little wet but if you buy a few acres before the swam… sorry before the shopping center gets built…you’ll be in on the ground floor.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #57)

Fri May 13, 2022, 10:49 AM

68. You won't be on the ground floor for long...

You'll be in a swimming pool in the basement soon. I have a client who is an environmental engineer, a hedge fund manager, and owner of 42 rental houses. I set him up with an agent in South Beach, FL because he wanted to buy investment property there. He took a trip to look at property. When he came back, he laughed and said "That city will be under water in 10 years."

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 11:57 AM

20. Tsk-tsk. n/t

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:10 PM

25. Good! nt

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:17 PM

26. Wow! Never saw that coming. Of course we did!

At least traditional currency has the government and banking systems behind it.
Cryptocurrency is supported by digital air; that is to say by "1's and 0's", with an emphasis on the "0's".
It's value is too volatile to be relied on. It's essentially a ponzi scheme.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:31 PM

27. If you invested $100 in Luna one month ago, the fourth most popular cryptocurrency at the time, ...

If you invested $100 in Luna one month ago, the fourth most popular cryptocurrency at the time, you now have $0.04.


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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #27)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:34 PM

28. A Luna-tick :)

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:35 PM

29. A couple of months ago the town of Mesa AZ announced that they would accept payments

for contracts, etc., in bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Of course, they would, because when it dropped in value (like it has) they would have a reason to increase the taxes on people and residences.



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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:40 PM

30. Funny thing in the middle of the article

Subscribe now to Forbes' CryptoAsset & Blockchain Advisor and successfully navigate the volatile bitcoin and crypto market


I wonder how many of their subscribers "successfully navigated" this crash.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:43 PM

31. So what is Musk going to use to buy twitter....after all he was going to use some bit coins....

they really need to call them bite coins

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:50 PM

34. Thankfully crypto is unlikely to take down the global economy

since it isn't embedded in everything the way home mortgages were before the last recession.

A young dude left my company to pursue a career in crypto a few years back. I wonder how that's working out. Many of us warned him it would ruin his career.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #34)

Thu May 12, 2022, 02:32 PM

44. Some of the crypto's with pegs bought a lot of corporate bonds to back their coin.

They may have to liquidate if necessary to generate cash.

Not trillions worth though.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 12:52 PM

35. Anyone that gets involved with 'crypto', non-existent,

viable only in someone's mind, value-less currency is out of their minds. Or, as my brother said during the dot-com scam, "they're selling air".

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Response to louis-t (Reply #35)

Thu May 12, 2022, 07:06 PM

56. I was in my last year of college then

Taking an Investment course where we were learning new ways to evaluate companies that had never turned a profit but had big market caps. We all knew then we were wasting our time.

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Response to louis-t (Reply #35)

Fri May 13, 2022, 11:19 AM

71. ...

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 01:23 PM

36. "lost its peg to the U.S. dollar," - not such an independent 'currency' after all, eh?

"lost its peg to the U.S. dollar," -

not such an independent 'currency' after all, eh?

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 01:28 PM

37. Playing with fire. It's Monopoly money, of no legal worth. n/t

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 02:49 PM

45. Coinbase experiencing major outage as crypto prices plummet

https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/12/23068996/coinbase-outage-withdrawal-cryptocurrency-bitcoin-price-crash

Coinbase experiencing major outage as crypto prices plummet
‘Your funds are safe, and we are actively working on the issue,’ the company said
By Russell Brandom
May 12, 2022, 2:18pm EDT

In communities on Reddit, users have reported rolling delays in withdrawals, leaving thousands of dollars hanging in the balance. More recently, another user reported that they were unable to access the app or website at all.

“Has the bear market crashed their servers?” the post reads. “Pretty frightening if someone wants to make a fast trade.”

The downtime comes amid a widespread crash in cryptocurrency prices, adding particular urgency to trades and withdrawals. Bitcoin has fallen to under $30,000, losing more than 25 percent of its value over the course of a month. As in any financial crash, the price drop has pushed many coin-holders to sell their assets and tested the underlying financial infrastructure of many institutions.

As a leading cryptocurrency exchange and wallet service, Coinbase has been hit particularly hard by the crash. The company reported a steep drop in revenue earlier this week, and its stock has shed more than half its value over the course of a week. Users were particularly shaken by a financial filing that suggested Coinbase account holders might be viewed as unsecured creditors in bankruptcy proceedings, seeming to suggest that they might lose money from their accounts if the company becomes insolvent. Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong contested the claims, saying user funds were not in danger.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 03:32 PM

48. I hope Melania is OK

And has a few NFTs tucked into her undies.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 04:32 PM

52. I remember reading articles some time ago

about the hassles if you lose your "private key", and they are STILL writing articles!

This man owns $321M in bitcoin — but he can't access it because he lost his password

Stefan Thomas has 2 guesses left before he's locked out of his fortune forever


CBC Radio · Posted: Jan 15, 2021 6:02 PM ET | Last Updated: January 15, 2021



Stefan Thomas is a bitcoin millionaire. Or, he would be if only he could remember his password. The San Francisco software developer and CEO was an early adopter of bitcoin. Back in 2011, he produced an animated video explaining how the digital currency works. For his efforts, a bitcoin enthusiast awarded him 7,002 bitcoins.

Later that year, he lost the password to his IronKey, the USB hard drive that contains the digital wallet that holds his bitcoins. Since then, the currency's value has skyrocketed, and Thomas' holdings are worth $220 million US ($321 million Cdn.) The IronKey gives users 10 password guesses before it encrypts its contents permanently, and Thomas' bitcoin is lost forever. He has two guesses left.

(snip)

OK, so what's the last glimmer of hope?

The famous USB stick with the 10 tries. There is a way to take a scanning electron microscope and take apart the physical chip and literally go into the the silicon chip and take away layer by layer, like a few atoms thick, and then read out the actual memory cells. And then with that technique, you should be able to bypass that limit of 10 tries, and then you can have a supercomputer try, you know, billions of passwords per second.

Now, the problem is that, first of all, that requires a specialized laboratory. It's very expensive. Only a few people in the world can do it. And even then, it's kind of high risk. It could just fail, and then the chip is destroyed and you don't get a second try. Back then, it definitely wasn't worth it. I think now it probably is worth it. But it still requires a lot of organizing and logistics, and even then it's not guaranteed.

(snip)

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-friday-edition-1.5875363/this-man-owns-321m-in-bitcoin-but-he-can-t-access-it-because-he-lost-his-password-1.5875366


(I remember back in the day, our agency had a few Ironkeys to transport sensitive data but never heard about their use again)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #52)

Fri May 13, 2022, 10:53 AM

69. I was trying to remember the details of this incident.

First thing I thought of when I read this post.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 06:29 PM

54. I never could have anticipated sales of NOTHING could drop in price?

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 06:41 PM

55. My Bitcoin hoard hasn't changed value.

Value yesterday = $0.
Worth the same today.
No loss.

I WIN!!!!!

The sure fire way to not make any gambling losses is to NOT gamble!

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 08:47 PM

58. Like most of these investments... if you bought early you're fine

If you jumped on the bandwagon later, not so fine

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2022, 09:22 PM

59. Best analogy I heard

Imagine if keeping your car idling 24/7 produced solved sudokus you could trade for heroin.

When I saw that I exited crypto.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 03:16 AM

61. I hope this criminal-enabling environment-degrading "currency" dies. nt

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 05:47 AM

62. I don't understand bitcoin, or the comparison with tulips in this thread.

I have no bitcoins, blockchains, etc.

I have many tulips, and they're growing, increasing like crazy. They're nice, but I can't take them to the bank.



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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #62)

Fri May 13, 2022, 06:28 AM

63. Youtube: "How Tulips became the Bitcoin of the 1600s" (seriously)

I ❤️❤️❤️ tulips. Bitcoins not so much

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Response to speak easy (Reply #63)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:02 AM

66. Thanks for that history lesson. I'm rich, in 17th century goods.

Bitcoin, I'm too old for that kind of gambling.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #66)

Fri May 13, 2022, 05:41 PM

72. PS. I really like tulips.

Have you taken photos of your 'riches' this year?

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 08:26 AM

64. "here's a screenshot from 12/10/21. you'll never guess what happened next"

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here's a screenshot from 12/10/21. you'll never guess what happened next


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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 08:33 AM

65. Boo fucking hoo, why anyone bought into this scam is beyond me.

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Response to speak easy (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:41 PM

74. 'Magic' money. Wouldn't touch that stuff.

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