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Tue May 3, 2022, 12:25 PM

Data Broker Is Selling Location Data of People Who Visit Abortion Clinics

Source: Vice

A location data firm is selling information related to visits to clinics that provide abortions including Planned Parenthood facilities, showing where groups of people visiting the locations came from, how long they stayed there, and where they then went afterwards, according to sets of the data purchased by Motherboard.

The data sale is obviously more important in the context of a leaked Supreme Court draft opinion in which Justice Alito indicated that the court is ready to repeal the decision in Roe v. Wade, the decades-old precedent that has provided federal protections to those seeking an abortion. If that draft does become a formal decision, it would immediately fully or partly ban abortion rights in at least 13 states.

How data collecting intersects with abortion rights, or the lack thereof, is likely to gather more attention in the wake of the draft. The country may also see an increase in vigilante activity or forms of surveillance and harassment against those seeking or providing abortions. With this aggregated location data available to anyone on the open market, customers could include anti-abortion vigilantes as well. Anti-abortion groups are already fairly adept at using novel technology for their goals. In 2016, an advertising CEO who worked with anti-abortion and Christian groups sent targeted advertisements to women sitting in Planned Parenthood clinics in an attempt to change their decision around getting an abortion. The sale of the location data raises questions around why companies are selling data based on abortion clinics specifically, and whether they should introduce more safeguards around the purchase of that information, if be selling it at all.

“It's bonkers dangerous to have abortion clinics and then let someone buy the census tracks where people are coming from to visit that abortion clinic,” Zach Edwards, a cybersecurity researcher who closely tracks the data selling marketplace, told Motherboard in an online chat after reviewing the data. “This is how you dox someone traveling across state lines for abortions—how you dox clinics providing this service.”

Read more: https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vzjb/location-data-abortion-clinics-safegraph-planned-parenthood

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Reply Data Broker Is Selling Location Data of People Who Visit Abortion Clinics (Original post)
TheProle May 2022 OP
PoliticAverse May 2022 #1
Mr.Bill May 2022 #2
iluvtennis May 2022 #6
oldsoftie May 2022 #8
Bernardo de La Paz May 2022 #14
Bernardo de La Paz May 2022 #15
muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #16
Ursus Rex May 2022 #55
Ingersollman May 2022 #22
Algernon Moncrieff May 2022 #35
Igel May 2022 #36
HighFired49 May 2022 #3
Salviati May 2022 #17
HighFired49 May 2022 #48
Rebl2 May 2022 #26
paleotn May 2022 #32
catrose May 2022 #38
richdj25 May 2022 #4
hamsterjill May 2022 #18
msfiddlestix May 2022 #31
TexasBushwhacker May 2022 #49
ck4829 May 2022 #5
iluvtennis May 2022 #7
appalachiablue May 2022 #24
Raven123 May 2022 #9
hamsterjill May 2022 #19
Raven123 May 2022 #20
hamsterjill May 2022 #21
Raven123 May 2022 #53
hamsterjill May 2022 #54
Rebl2 May 2022 #27
catrose May 2022 #39
csziggy May 2022 #46
Raven123 May 2022 #52
Raven123 May 2022 #51
Deminpenn May 2022 #50
bucolic_frolic May 2022 #10
Deep State Witch May 2022 #11
Hieronymus Phact May 2022 #12
hueymahl May 2022 #30
paleotn May 2022 #33
2naSalit May 2022 #43
sarisataka May 2022 #13
KS Toronado May 2022 #23
FakeNoose May 2022 #25
onlyadream May 2022 #28
NullTuples May 2022 #29
Martin68 May 2022 #34
JCMach1 May 2022 #37
Crataegus May 2022 #40
Hekate May 2022 #41
Crataegus May 2022 #44
csziggy May 2022 #47
Pachamama May 2022 #42
Texin May 2022 #45

Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:29 PM

1. And letting the CDC track you...

See: https://democraticunderground.com/10142911383

If you carry a cell phone you can be tracked wherever you go (or don't go) and that tacking information is available for a price.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:31 PM

2. Two words:

Burner phones.

Or, if you're going to a clinic, no phone. Also, we can use the same technology to track people protesting at women's health clinics.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #2)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:46 PM

6. -+ agree. n/t

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #2)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:48 PM

8. And maybe thats the next step. Good for the goose.......

Harass THEM. Not a good path to go down but what. other options are there

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #2)

Tue May 3, 2022, 01:17 PM

14. Three words


Vote for Rights!

"But her emails!" Well we got email abuse from the tRump Gang AND an attack on Roe v Wade.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #2)

Tue May 3, 2022, 01:17 PM

15. Four words


Get Out the Vote!

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #2)

Tue May 3, 2022, 01:38 PM

16. What can you do with data about people protesting?

There's no-one writing vigilante laws (or, once Roe is destroyed, criminal laws) allowing you to sue people who protest, or help people protest.

Yes, it does mean people visiting a woman's health clinic are going to have their movements tracked by the worst people in the USA, unless they turn off their phones.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #16)

Tue May 10, 2022, 01:19 PM

55. Leave the phone at home.

Just turning off the phone does nothing except keep the amateur apps from tracking you. There is no small amount of suspicion that phone can be tracked unless it's in an RFID-blocking case, and if the risk is that great, why bother?

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #2)

Tue May 3, 2022, 02:34 PM

22. One word

GILEAD

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #2)

Tue May 3, 2022, 09:07 PM

35. Three words: F*ck with them!

Just start having people pull in and out of PP clinics. Start flooding the data gatherers with requests. Thousands of them.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #2)

Tue May 3, 2022, 09:20 PM

36. That doesn't work.

Unless you get a burner phone for each one-way trip.

The idea isn't that they link the phone's location to the phone's number to your identity.

The idea is that they link the phone's motion to a particular neighborhood or block, then might could use other information to figure out who on that block held the phone.

If they did that with my phone they'd find that most of my trips are between home and work, and it's not hard to figure out who in my neighborhood works where I work. There's one of me.

Then they could figure out where I shop. I don't go to a gas station, but the grocery store has gas pumps. Confusingly, almost all my stops are within 2 miles of where I work or within a block of one of the two roads I take to go home. If I go more than a block off those roads it's an excursion--so those stops might only show up as pausing. Depending on the sample frequency and distance resolution, those stops may not show up at all, canceling out liquor store, drug store, Walmart, pet store, pizza or burger places, where my son spends 2 weeks out of every 4 ... etc. Still, neighborhood + workplace uniquely IDs me. Then the privacy is in the masking of almost all my other activities. Places like the Asian market or used book store might stand out, but that might only show up as a "census tract"--then did I go to the bookstore or the Lao restaurant near it, the Asian market or the Salvadoran restaurant or noodle house?

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:37 PM

3. HIPPA!

Seems like they could be sued under HIPPA for breach of privacy, and the Constitutional right to travel (LIBERTY)!

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Response to HighFired49 (Reply #3)

Tue May 3, 2022, 01:40 PM

17. Nope.

It would be illegal for the clinic to hand out such information, but it's not illegal for data brokers to do the same thing, because they are not your medical provider.

Jon Oliver did a segment about this very thing a few weeks ago:

?t=501

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Response to Salviati (Reply #17)

Sat May 7, 2022, 09:33 PM

48. Thanks

Forgot about that very important point. Maybe we could lobby to get the data brokers include under HIPPA restrictions.

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Response to HighFired49 (Reply #3)

Tue May 3, 2022, 04:36 PM

26. You would think

Next thing you know they will try to get rid of HIPPA

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Response to HighFired49 (Reply #3)

Tue May 3, 2022, 08:12 PM

32. HIPPA doesn't work like that....

It applies only to healthcare providers, insurers, etc. divulging medical information without consent. Unless the source(s) are healthcare related organizations, HIPPA doesn't apply.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #32)

Tue May 3, 2022, 10:12 PM

38. And yet I've been calling medical offices and asking whether the staff is vaxxed,

and they say they can't tell me because of HIPAA. I don't think it works like that either. If they say, "All staff are vaxxed," that's different than "Charlie isn't vaxxed." Funny how hospitals demanded all employees, even those who never see a patient, get vaxxed for everything up to a flu shot every year, but now a Covid vaccine is a problem.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:40 PM

4. How about we all

visit abortion clinics, and then travel to the nearest white Christian evangelical church or enclave. That would make for some interesting numbers.

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Response to richdj25 (Reply #4)

Tue May 3, 2022, 01:41 PM

18. Splendid idea!

I think you are on to something. What about politician’s residences? Just park on the street in front where not prohibited.

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Response to richdj25 (Reply #4)

Tue May 3, 2022, 08:05 PM

31. Check, and I'll see ya for a trip to a gun show just make it even more interesting.




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Response to richdj25 (Reply #4)

Sun May 8, 2022, 07:27 PM

49. Works for me!

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:42 PM

5. "I just need to take a quick restroom break" - Everybody

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:47 PM

7. 1984/ Big Brother is here. n/t

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #7)

Tue May 3, 2022, 03:40 PM

24. ++

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:50 PM

9. Turn off your phone when you travel or get a burner

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #9)

Tue May 3, 2022, 01:42 PM

19. Does turning it off make the tracking stop?

Not techno savvy here.

TIA.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #19)

Tue May 3, 2022, 01:50 PM

20. That's my understanding. Power off. No tracking

If I were concerned, I would turn off my phone before leaving home.

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #20)

Tue May 3, 2022, 01:52 PM

21. Thank you.

I lead a pretty boring life, but one never knows! Good information to have.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #21)

Mon May 9, 2022, 09:50 AM

53. Just a follow up link on this topic.

Hope it helps. I guess it’s good to check your specific phone type.

https://techpp.com/2013/08/22/track-phone-turned-off/

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #53)

Mon May 9, 2022, 10:54 AM

54. Thanks.

Sheesh - pretty scary.

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #9)

Tue May 3, 2022, 04:37 PM

27. 👆👆👆

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #9)

Tue May 3, 2022, 10:13 PM

39. I thought you had to take the battery out for it to stop tracking you, but it's been a while since I

checked.

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Response to catrose (Reply #39)

Wed May 4, 2022, 11:47 AM

46. And a lot of the newer cell phones don't have removable batteries nt

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Response to csziggy (Reply #46)

Mon May 9, 2022, 09:48 AM

52. I found a link on this topic

Hope this helps. I have never used the “find my” feature on my phone. One less issue to deal with.

[link: https://techpp.com/2013/08/22/track-phone-turned-off/

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Response to catrose (Reply #39)

Mon May 9, 2022, 09:46 AM

51. Just a link to follow up on this discussion. I think it depends on the phone.

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #9)

Mon May 9, 2022, 03:41 AM

50. You can turn off the location tracker also

on android smart phones.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:52 PM

10. Stalking laws, protection from abuse, injunctions, doxxing

Throw it all in the mix and get some civil rights legal teams on it

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:52 PM

11. Leave Your Phone at Home

Get a burner phone if you go to a clinic.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:53 PM

12. How about this:

Lets make it illegal to sell location data. Problem solved

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Response to Hieronymus Phact (Reply #12)

Tue May 3, 2022, 07:49 PM

30. This

100% this

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Response to Hieronymus Phact (Reply #12)

Tue May 3, 2022, 08:16 PM

33. Exactly.

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Response to Hieronymus Phact (Reply #12)

Wed May 4, 2022, 04:59 AM

43. +1

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 12:57 PM

13. We willing spend money

To purchase and use a hi-tech tracking device with some useful ancillary features. And will usually pay a monthly fee to keep it active.

It shouldn't be a surprise that people will then use the tracking information we agreed to.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 03:24 PM

23. If you have to go somewhere you don't want to be tracked

Leave the damn phone at home & turned on, plus you have an alibi. Don't go buying a burner phone for a
day, we don't know for sure if it can be traced or not by who you call, you can get by a day w/o a phone.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 03:43 PM

25. Haven't people learned to leave their phones at home

... when they don't want to be tracked? I thought that was made clear during the insurrection/coup last year.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 04:51 PM

28. Jeesh, maybe we should also visit our friendly abortion clinic just to say hi.

Off topic - A long time ago, I worked in building that had an abortion clinic (this was the mid 80s). When I went in on Saturday mornings for over-time, the anti-choicers would surround my car and wouldn't let me in. They'd plaster pics of dead fetuses to my window. I would just slowly idle my car to get through the crowd. It was always stressful. I was always afraid that they'd set a bomb off.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 07:12 PM

29. In Texas, buying that data can be seen as part of a business model

With payouts of $10,000+, what's a few thou invested? Especially if a single data set provides multiple cross-correlating hits.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 08:36 PM

34. We are getting to the point where vigilanteism seems like the best option available to restore

democracy. NSA, pretend you didn't see this post.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 10:01 PM

37. Think I should write a fake GPS app that will switch randomly to a Satanic

Temple different places around the world every few minutes

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2022, 11:14 PM

40. Faraday Pouch

Put the phone into a Faraday pouch or bag. Do not remove it until you are back at your starting point. learn to do without your phone. The moment you open the bag your phone will start transmitting again. You can even buy Faraday fabric and make your oun bag. Test it before you go. Protect yourself!

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Response to Crataegus (Reply #40)

Tue May 3, 2022, 11:31 PM

41. Please provide more info. I was wondering if aluminum foil wrap would do it. Thank you. nt

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Response to Hekate (Reply #41)

Wed May 4, 2022, 08:11 AM

44. Faraday fabric

Faraday cages were developed by the military to protect equipment from EMP blasts from atomic weapons.
The faraday fabric was an offshoot of the cage. Even Amazon sells faraday pouches to protect phones and car key fobs.
You need to test your faraday bag by sealing your phone in it and having someone call you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage

https://nasafes.com/what-is-faraday-fabric/

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=FARADAY+FABRIC

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Response to Crataegus (Reply #44)

Wed May 4, 2022, 11:58 AM

47. This sounds like a great Etsy business opportunity

Or the same as many women made masks at the beginning of the Covid shut down, they could make Faraday pouches to be given out at women's health clinics.

The idea that location data can be purchased is terrifying. What about domestic violence victims - their persecutors could find out where they are sheltering. If all it takes is money to trace them, no place is secure.

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Response to Crataegus (Reply #40)

Wed May 4, 2022, 04:20 AM

42. +10000

Thanks for mentioning this to people

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2022, 08:58 AM

45. Such a typically cynical rethuglican thing to do.

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