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Wicked Blue

(6,885 posts)
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 10:03 AM Feb 2022

Civilians in rebel-held Donetsk 'to be evacuated'

Source: BBC News

People in the rebel-held city of Donetsk, in eastern Ukraine, will be evacuated to Russia, the area's leader has said.

Denis Pushilin, who is head of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DNR), announced on social media that Russia had agreed to provide accommodation for people leaving.

Women, children and the elderly should be evacuated first, he added.

...

The US and its allies have raised concerns that rising violence in the Donbas region could form part of a Russian pretext to invade Ukraine.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60428211



Analysis: Evacuations troubling as disinformation swirls

Paul Adams
BBC diplomatic correspondent

The announcement by Denis Pushilin that women, children and the elderly will be evacuated to Russia is, potentially, a very troubling development.

The idea that an evacuation is needed because Ukraine is planning an attack on the two Russian-backed self-proclaimed republics of Donetsk and Luhansk is baseless.

With a vast chunk of Russia's military might positioned around Ukraine's borders, such an attack would be an act of lunacy. It is, quite simply, unthinkable.

But the separatists, and Moscow, want to create the impression of imminent danger. Yesterday, the Kremlin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said the situation around Russia's borders could ignite at any moment.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60428211
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Bernardo de La Paz

(51,843 posts)
1. Good riddance. Let Russia give them new lives. Beware of manufactured incidents during evacuation.nt
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 10:06 AM
Feb 2022

getagrip_already

(17,614 posts)
2. they are only being moved to safety.....
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 10:10 AM
Feb 2022

That way russia isn't killing its own people when they level the country.

Wicked Blue

(6,885 posts)
7. Some of them could killed in a false flag attack
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 10:26 AM
Feb 2022

to give Russia the pretext it wants to start the war

Wicked Blue

(6,885 posts)
6. Excellent point
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 10:24 AM
Feb 2022

Russia has a tendency to encourage its citizens to move into countries it wants to occupy. It provides Russia with the excuse to complain that the Russian settlers in a given country are in danger and in need of military intervention

For example, Estonia's population is currently about 1/4 Russian. A large number of Estonians were dragged out of their homes and sent to Siberia after WW2. Russia then encouraged Russians to settle in Estonia with various incentives. They are still there.

My mother and grandmother narrowly escaped being deported to Siberia by running out the back door of their landlord's house.

Same situation in Latvia and Lithuania.

zuul

(14,677 posts)
5. Always have to wonder what Pootie is up to.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 10:20 AM
Feb 2022

I hope it's not the scenario in this tweet from a journalist in Ukraine:

Olga Tokariuk@olgatokariuk

A scenario discussed on 🇺🇦 Twitter: buses with residents of Luhansk and Donetsk regions, who have been ordered to evacuate to Russia (and many of whom hold Russian passports), may be hit by Russian artillery and an attack would be blamed on Ukraine as a pretext for an invasion


Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
11. I can only imagine that entire region is under heavy surveillance from eyes in the sky
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 03:53 PM
Feb 2022

I wonder how much more difficult that makes it to pull off such a false flag without risking it being observed somehow.

yaesu

(8,404 posts)
8. Russia news is circulating a video of what they claim was Ukraine infiltrators trying to blow up
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 10:53 AM
Feb 2022

some chemical tanks in neighboring Gorlovka, it obvious false flag shit but this is prob what got Pushilin going, playing along with


Wicked Blue

(6,885 posts)
10. Putin offers bribes to get Russians out of breakaway regions
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 12:02 PM
Feb 2022

According to an article in Daily Beast, "Russian President Vladimir Putin, meanwhile, ordered the government to issue 10,000 RUB ($130) payouts to each person entering Russia from Donbas,"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donetsk-leader-tells-civilians-to-flee-to-russia-raising-fear-of-imminent-invasion?ref=home

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