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Sun Jan 16, 2022, 10:25 AM

Austria to start fines for unvaccinated in March, Nehammer says

Source: Bloomberg

Austria will impose fines on those without Covid-19 vaccinations from mid-March after a transition phase that starts in February, said Chancellor Karl Nehammer.

People unwilling to get inoculated will face penalties of as much as 3,600 euros ($4,108), the Austrian leader told reporters on Sunday. The mandate will apply to all adults living in the country except when a medical exemption is granted.


Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-16/austria-to-start-fines-for-unvaccinated-in-march-nehammer-says

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Reply Austria to start fines for unvaccinated in March, Nehammer says (Original post)
brooklynite Jan 2022 OP
bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #1
Polybius Jan 2022 #2
Pantagruel Jan 2022 #3
Lucky Luciano Jan 2022 #8
Polybius Jan 2022 #12
quakerboy Jan 2022 #16
LoisB Jan 2022 #4
Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #5
cadoman Jan 2022 #6
orleans Jan 2022 #7
appalachiablue Jan 2022 #9
Jetheels Jan 2022 #10
murielm99 Jan 2022 #15
Yandex Jan 2022 #11
MichMan Jan 2022 #13
Yandex Jan 2022 #14

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 10:39 AM

1. An Australian told me in the 90's they are fined for not voting in elections

Like $125 right on the tax return. Don't know if that policy continues. Wonder if that would work here. It's not a payment to vote, it's a penalty. Or would SCOTUS consider a tax a negative payment. Hmm.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 11:25 AM

2. I wouldn't support that

Suppose you're 18 and hate politics? They might go into the voting booth and flip a coin.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:22 PM

3. "go into the voting booth and flip a coin"

which would give similar results to our current electorate, sadly.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 06:20 PM

8. Statistically, the coin flips change nothing.

However, the non coin flips that vote due to this should be significant enough to be meaningful.

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 09:19 PM

12. True

Some might go into the voting booth and pick the one with the better sounding name though.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 17, 2022, 06:34 AM

16. Lets say your a citizen with a civic duty to participate

And lets say voting doesnt require choosing an option from any given race, just showing up and signing in. Ive known a few folk who regularly voted for ficus in certain races.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:23 PM

4. I say good for Austria.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:17 PM

5. Good!

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:00 PM

6. we need to find the resolve to begin taking those steps here

We have solid Democratic support of it, but frankly not nearly enough to really do it. We need to be at 80% or higher support among Democrats and at least 50% of independents. There can't be any doubt among us that force is a necessary part of the solution.

Start with the basics: mandatory masking on public transport, insurance fines, bans from clubs and leagues, etc. Focus on populations with low financial resources who cannot afford to fight us in court. Turn compliance into a virtue. Once they get used to it they'll help us to enforce it on the middle and upper classes.

After we lay this humble foundation we can pursue the more aggressive steps towards 100% mandatory vaccination. Australia is the model. Use them as the example for where we need to be in six months.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:45 PM

7. news like this makes the pukes on our supreme court all twitchy

--they just want to run over there and STRIKE IT DOWN!

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 06:46 PM

9. Bravo, thanks for the news. Quebec is also starting this.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 07:05 PM

10. Can you imagine if they imposed fines in US?

 

The rethudkqons would storm the Capitol and erect gallows…….

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Response to Jetheels (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 17, 2022, 01:52 AM

15. They would not have to bother with that.

The GOP supreme court would rule the fines unconstitutional.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 07:52 PM

11. What happens if someone refuses to pay the fine? n/t

 

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Response to Yandex (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 10:28 PM

13. Or doesn't have the money to pay it.

Do you want to be in the position of making people choose between paying the fine instead of rent ?

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Response to MichMan (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 11:28 PM

14. Good point n/t

 

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