Biden-Putin talks yield no breakthrough in Ukraine tensions
Source: AP
By AAMER MADHANI and VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV
WASHINGTON (AP) President Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin were still far apart after two hours of talks on the escalating crisis caused by Russias massing of tens of thousands of troops near its border with Ukraine.
Biden delivered a simple message during Tuesdays video call with Putin: invade Ukraine again and face painful sanctions that will do resounding harm to your economy. Putin had his own blunt take, according to his foreign adviser Yuri Ushakov, telling the U.S. president that the Russian troops are on their own territory, and they dont threaten anyone.
With no immediate breakthrough to ease tensions on the Ukraine question, the U.S. emphasized a need for diplomacy and de-escalation, while issuing stern threats to Russia about the high costs of a military incursion.
Biden told President Putin directly that if Russia further invades Ukraine, the United States and our European allies would respond with strong economic measures, U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said. He added that Biden said the U.S. would also provide additional defensive material to the Ukrainians
and we would fortify our NATO allies on the eastern flank with additional capabilities in response to such an escalation.
In this image provided by The White House, President Joe Biden speaks as he meets virtually via a secure video conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin from the Situation Room at the White House in Washington, Tuesday, Dec. 7, 2021. At far left is White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan along with Secretary of State Antony Blinken, right, national security council senior director for Russian and Central Asia, Eric Green. (Adam Schultz/The White House via AP)
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Just_Vote_Dem
(2,779 posts)What a difference from asshole45 staring dreamily at the Putin monster
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)It was The look of love
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,697 posts)Precious.
IronLionZion
(45,163 posts)We can make things very expensive for Putin at a time when the Russian economy is not the strongest and their people are suffering from COVID.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Russia does not have a unlimited supply of manpower.
Putin is just a bully.
maxsolomon
(32,918 posts)They are already heavily sanctioned.
In response, he can turn off the Natural Gas spigot to the EU.
ruet
(10,035 posts)for Putin to invade. Never take anything off the table!
maxsolomon
(32,918 posts)Will he take it all, or just the Russian-speaking regions east of the Dneiper?
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The Magistrate
(95,237 posts)Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)I just read their population is being hit hard by the virus.
I think Putin is testing President Biden.
maxsolomon
(32,918 posts)Was the Crimean Annexation a test of Obama?
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Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Trump kissed Putin's butt.
That has changed a lot things.
No matter what he does someone will complain.
Given in to Putin is not a good thing.
maxsolomon
(32,918 posts)If Putin takes Ukrainian territory, there is little we can do to stop him unless we want WW3. And we don't.
All we can do is punish him, and we're already doing that, for scores of transgressions.
But we can't punish him too much, we still need Rusher to get to the ISS, and the EU still needs Rusher's natural gas or they'll freeze to death.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Four years with a Russian owned president.
That has left Joe in a tough situation.
I wish Europe didn't get their natural gas from Russia.
Still Russia is not the old Soviet union which is what Putin wants.
Shit.
Trump would have given the Ukraine away already.
Along with Poland and all the other countries of the old Soviet Union.
Rhiannon12866
(202,207 posts)Back then, there were satellite countries under the USSR umbrella. I went with my grandmother as part of her peace group and we were originally scheduled to visit Kiev (capital of Ukraine), but Chernobyl happened. So we visited what was then Soviet Georgia (Tbilisi) instead. This was obviously a different county, more Middle Eastern than Russian, with their own language and traditions, but they were forced to adopt both the Russian language and Russian traditions and laws. I couldn't help notice that there were statues of Stalin there which puzzled me, so I asked why. And I was told that they still admired Stalin, who was actually Georgian, because "he killed so many Russians." Enough said.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)My Grandmother would write to a first cousin there.
The letters would come censored.
I think the majority of people in Russia do not like Putin
He just steals the elections.
He just a thug and bully and owns a ex American president.
Happy Hoosier
(7,012 posts)Why not Russia cannot invade Ukraine unless it wants WWIII and it doesnt.
Russia is relying on is being willing to ultimately allow the to seize whatever territory they want. And if we do allow them, the only question to ask is where is next?
Right now, their model is to seize territory, weather some sanctions, allow normalization, rinse, repeat. A lot of us said that if we allow Russia to keep Crimea, Putin will do it again. Welp. Here we are.