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Sat Dec 4, 2021, 07:54 AM

China's communists bash US democracy before Biden summit

Source: AP

By KEN MORITSUGU

BEIJING (AP) — China’s Communist Party took American democracy to task on Saturday, sharply criticizing a global democracy summit being hosted by President Joe Biden next week and extolling the virtues of its governing system.

Party officials questioned how a polarized country that botched its response to COVID-19 could lecture others, and said that efforts to force others to copy the Western democratic model are “doomed to fail.”

The harsh rhetoric reflects a growing clash of values that has been thrust into the spotlight as China rises as a global power. The question is whether the United States and other leading democracies can peacefully co-exist with a powerful authoritarian state whose actions are at odds with the Western model that emerged victorious at the end of the Cold War.

The pandemic exposed defects in the American system, said Tian Peiyan, the deputy director of the Communist Party’s Policy Research Office. He blamed the high COVID-19 death toll in the U.S. on political disputes and a divided government from the highest to the lowest levels.



Xu Lin, vice minister of the Publicity Department of the Central Committee of China's Communist Party holds a copy of a government-produced report titled "Democracy that Works" during a press conference at the State Council Information Office in Beijing, Saturday, Dec. 4, 2021. China's Communist Party took American democracy to task on Saturday, sharply criticizing a global democracy summit being hosted by President Joe Biden next week and extolling the virtues of its governing system. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein)


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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 09:12 AM

1. We don't have to steal our technology.

And ours actually works compared to the usual communist, Potemkin technology.

I do miss the old insults and slip easily into the old rifts. A child of the Cold War I guess. Sometimes I wonder how younger Americans react to things like The Hunt for Red October. Older folks like me get all of the subtilty they may miss entirely.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 09:24 AM

2. Did Trump really want to nuke them after he lost, lost the election?

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 10:25 AM

3. The US is losing moral high ground.

Gun violence, treatment of minorities, inability to handle national emergencies, American people trying to overthrow the government and elections, etc etc.

China is determined to be a 21st century superpower and will take advantage of all weaknesses in their enemies.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:22 AM

5. I agree

My biggest concern is if they join up with Russia. I think Putin is massing troops on the Ukrainian border to test Biden.

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Response to Bayard (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 01:08 PM

7. Too late, the China-Russia alliance has already taken place.

Been news about it recently, but the cooperation between Moscow and Beijing has been there for some time.
They are uniting against the western democracies.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 10:56 AM

4. China is a dictatorship/police state, not "Communist"

As they do not have a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes.

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 01:20 PM

8. Communist countries were police states though.

The USSR was a police state. Yugoslavia under Tito was a police state. East Germany had the Stasi.



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Response to nycbos (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 04:18 PM

12. Yes most of them were but that's not integral to being communist

If the government owns your house and the factory that you work in and everything else that is communist

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 12:49 PM

6. No

ex-President trump exposed all of us to this polarizing and botching. His(TFG) administration shortcomings, especially in disrespecting and possibly polarizing our military with his consistent deriding and disrespect of those willing to go into harm's way was constant. That did not help. It's not us! We believe the science.

Mass shifting to the fascist-authoritative governing models always ends badly. WWII stands out and back through recent-ancient history.

Antebellum South here.

Yet our Democracy is one of the last great hopes in keeping common decency at the forefront of human progress. Let's not squander that asset on a minor human being and his quest for what? Power? Money. Ideological dominance? Those are rejections in my book for keeping our way of life. Lots of healing to be had, yet we have done it before

China is deluding itself. A leopard does not change its spots.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 01:24 PM

9. Are there things down right f up about this country?

Yes. Every country in the world has at least one f up thing about it. You can even say humans are downright f up species.


But I will take a messy democracy over a totalitarian dictatorship every day of the week.

Beijing can kiss our ass.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 02:06 PM

10. I'd take 1 billion US Democracies over authoritarianism.

Without freedom, there’s no reason to be alive.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 03:06 PM

11. We need to take those comments seriously, many of them are correct, it is the buffoon's legacy.

And to the buffoon's defense, it did not start with him, he is not that clever, this is the legacy of the republican party as well.

If anything the buffoon did right, not on purpose of course, was to uncover the vulnerabilities of our Democratic system, it was designed with the assumption that honest, patriotic people would run for office, the buffoon was not in the mind of those who wrote the constitution, although it should have been because of their experience with royalty (dictatorship).

The Chinese are correct, our Democracy has too many problems, the fantasy that we are number one in the World is just that, a fantasy perpetrated by politicians to move the masses. There are so many flaws in our system that must be fixed.

How can we claim we are a Democracy when we have something like the "Electoral College" where a minority can prevail against the wish of the people? In a real Democracy the majority wins, not in the USA, which is why it allows republicans to win while being a minority.

And how about a "Supreme Court" which is politicized and votes against the wish of the people as well?

Gerrymandering, changes on voting laws, disenfranchising of minorities, etc...how can we call all that a Democracy, where do all these things make us number one in the World?

The so called "rule of law", and "no one is above the law" does not hold true, we know this is all a fantasy as well. The rich get away with murder while the poor suffer.

Lets not try to defend the indefensible, we are a broken Democracy, and have been for a long time. Let us not forget that the first step towards fixing a problem is recognizing there is a problem.

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Response to Escurumbele (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 08:07 AM

13. Very good comments. Brutal truth, eh.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 12:20 PM

14. Totalitarian dictatorship. Quite the innovation, China.

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