Ann Romney: "Throw out" the American public education system.

[trailmonkee]

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Source: Good Housekeeping/Daily Kos

Ann Romney and First Lady Michelle Obama were interviewed for the November issue of Good Housekeeping magazine, just out. Our First Lady, of course was charming, positive and well-informed.

Mrs. Romney? Well . . .

Among her talking points, this:

I've been a First Lady of the State. I have seen what happens to people's lives if they don't get a proper education. And we know the answers to that. The charter schools have provided the answers. The teachers' unions are preventing those things from happening, from bringing real change to our educational system. We need to throw out the system.

Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/27/1147755/-Ann-Romney-Throw-out-the-American-public-education-system

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Graphic I made with her nasty quote

[PDJane]

1. And this is supposed to be in line to be first lady of the US?

Didn't Barbara Bush push the limits on over-privilged stupidity?

[Bainbridge Bear]

19. Indeed, I remember

when her idiot son was lying us into a "war" with Iraq and an interviewer asked this byatch if she wasn't worried about the projections of possible deaths and injuries. She replied "Why should I trouble my beautiful mind with things like that? It just isn't relevant." An unconscionable thing to say. Now we know where Georgie Boy got his recklessness and his disregard for the lives of other people. It sounds like Ann Romney would be an equally repulsive First Lady.

[donnasgirl]

25. Your right

She did butdoes this wing nut understand how many jobs the U.S. would lose

http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/cb11-ff15.html
Golly gee wiz mittsy we better take a better look.DUMB BITCH

[calimary]

71. Welcome to DU, donna's girl, and Bainbridge Bear too!

I remember when that imperious, entitled, heartless bitch had the gall to question why she should have to bother her "beautiful mind" about such lowly, trivial things as the toll of death and injury during war. MAN! Madam Warmth! I found her loathesome. Just as I find Madam Smug, aka her ladyship ayn of dressage.

Glad you guys are here. We need you! Especially in these last waning days...







Now get to work.

[spiderpig]

58. Barbara Bush was a pip, alright.

Remember her performance at the Astrodome during Katrina?

You have to be a real piece of work to have Richard Nixon say of you "Now there's a woman who knows how to hate".

Wonder what Tricky Dick would have to say about Queen Ann.

[dflprincess]

89. Ann Romeny makes Babs look like Mother Theresa. n/t

[spiderpig]

91. I can't even look at her.

I see inner beauty in anyone who is truly kind - but Queen Ann is an ugly hag to her core. She and RomBot seem to be suitably matched. (One more week/one more week/one more week...)

Can we just be rid of this pair?

[kelliekat44]

62. From the great depression through the walk on the moon, the public school system has

done well by the nation. We have come this far with the public school system and like any major social system it needs changes over time but it certainly does not need to be replaced with church-based, anti science, anti-social, anti-other education systems.

[Archae]

2. Queen Anntoinette has spoken.

She has simply no concept beyond the posh and prim bubble she lives in.

[Demsrule86]

81. Ann Lovey Howell Rommey...spoiled brat

No she does not and of course they would replace the schools with Wall Street schools which eventually would be only for the rich...and no doubt Bain would make lots of money...Tag is poised to make a great deal of money with some shady deals should Romney win.

[fleur-de-lisa]

3. THROW OUT Ann rMoney . . .

or better yet, don't let her in at all!

[Enrique]

4. "let them go to prep schools" n/t

[jsr]

5. Yes, you people should go to a proper school for a proper education:

[xtraxritical]

23. Maybe she could have gotten an education at a public school. Could she be any dumber?

[onehandle]

6. Fuck you. You have no contact with real life.

Go beat a servant.

[chuckstevens]

7. Charter Schools

Charter Schools are the way to profit, ah, I mean, a good education!

[SharonAnn]

68. Some recent shows thar Charter Scools don't really do better.

[chuckstevens]

74. I Know

I was being extremely sarcastic.

[wordpix]

76. research shows some charters do better, other public school systems do better

It literally depends on the city, the charter boards, the school districts, the funding...

I have a lot of experience with this and can say that what really makes a difference is the funding, class sizes and things like families living in poverty in poor neighborhoods. If you have money for teacher training and development, smartboards, small class sizes, learning centers, tutors, great school libraries, parent education, delicious school lunches, etc., you're golden. A lot of public schools don't, and a lot of charters don't.

[libdem4life]

8. Starting to feel like a character in a Dickens novel.

[Iris]

80. No, kidding. I have been for a while. The past 4 years was a short reprieve.

I hope we get 4 more.

[SamKnause]

9. Public education

I would like to see you, and your entire family thrown out of the political arena for eternity.

[deadbrokediva]

16. I'd like to see them all thrown out of the universe

But you know even though Mittens is going to lose next week, his evil sons will rise up and probably run in 2016.

[ladjf]

10. I'm sure that she backs up her suggestion with years of study and experience with public

education. nt

[Melinda]

11. This is EXACTLY what the GOP wants... Xtian revision to textbooks, low-information

education = zero educated voters. This has been and continues to be a systematic destruction of an individuals ability to logically reason, and develop critical thinking skills. THIS has been the goal of right-wing authoritarians for at least the last 32+ years, along with taking away women's rights to make their own health care and economic decisions, and dismantling of workers (labor) rights. THIS is what progressives are up against.

We all know what the GOP is capable of when it comes to voter suppression and fraud... and IF the GOP succeeds in taking this election, THIS is what we, our children, and the future of our very republic have to look forward to.

History is full of characters who used education as indoctrination. And we all know what Santayana had to say about history, right? I certainly hope so.

K&R

[Dont call me Shirley]

34. But somehow we seem to maintain our critical thinking skills while ann has none

Who has the better education now, ann?

[Melinda]

38. It's the younger generations most at risk, although a huge part of the electorate supports the GOP

This country is at a critical juncture. My biggest fear is that there aren't enough of us to withstand the onslaught. Day by day we see the social contract promised us by the New Deal undone... can "we" stop it in time? Is there enough of US to do so?

[johnlucas]

72. If Democrats fight, Yes. If they whimper, No.

The republicans will be destroyed in 1 week as Obama gets his 2nd term in a LANDSLIDE victory.

Listen to your sentence:
"My biggest fear is that there aren't enough of us to withstand the onslaught."

Let me highlight something for ya:
"My biggest fear is that there aren't enough of us to withstand the onslaught."

QUIT BEING SCARED & FIGHT THESE BITCHES!

The Democratic Party has become too whipped & weak.
Don't go out like Amos Rucker. Go out like Nat Turner.
Republicans are easy pickings & always have been but the Democrats lacked the unity & strength they need to put up a decent fight.
Hence Republicans get their way one way or another.

WE are the majority.
WE are the champions here.
WE are the winners.

When we stand strong for social & economic justice WITHOUT FEAR, there's no stopping us.
This is the end of the Republican Party as you know it.
This is the end of the Southern Strategy.
The New Deal will be reinforced not undone.
There are PLENTY of us & we WILL stop it in time.
They HAVE no onslaught.
They are desperate & nearly defeated.
All we have to do is defeat them.

Yes, we are at a critical juncture.
Are the Democrats gonna continue being weak mealy-mouthed ineffective fighters for social & economic justice?
OR
Are the Democrats gonna take over this ship called the United States of America & steer it BACK into the Progressive path it should never have strayed from?

Fork in the road for the Democrats.
Are you gonna be strong or are you gonna be weak?
No more 'Shrug' smilies.
No more 'Surrender' mentalities.
It's time to POUND these suckas! Bump dem fists!

John Lucas
P.S.: Put some fire in your belly! The Landslide is coming.

[SunSeeker]

12. Charter schools have been a failure, you lying POS.

Why is it that a 12 to 1 student-teacher ratio is necessary for your 5 spoiled brats, but when it comes to the rest of us, class size doesn't matter?

[fleur-de-lisa]

14. Excellent response! - n/t

[alp227]

45. The peasants' minds need to be PURE...so that they do not REBEL against the MASTERS!

Knowledge POISONS!!!!!!

[okwmember]

13. Okay Anne

since you brought it up I'd like to see your proof that charter schools outperform public schools.
I'm guessing its in the secret vault with the taxes and your mystery economic plan.

[JanT]

15. without a proper education they become your house servants

and that is what you think of the rest of the people. We are your house servants and need to do as you and your king say. Get out and go away. This woman disgusts me with her holier-than-thou attitude. She has been "1st lady of a state". Well let me fill you in honey -- you are in the presence of the 1st LADY of the U.S. So show some respect!

[deadbrokediva]

17. She's a bonafide oinker.

[NHDEMFORLIFE]

18. Not just clueless, but malignantly clueless n/t

[madrchsod]

20. sounds a lot like rahm`s and quinn`s friends solution for the state of illinois school system

if quinn and his friends in the democratic party have thier way it`s over for the teachers unions. yes the unions in illinois were screwed over by the democrats in chicago and springfield

[SoapBox]

21. Let them eat CAKE!

STFU Queen Ann.

[struggle4progress]

22. Didn't she and W. ("Walter Mitty") Romney meet when they were both preppies

at the snobbish Cranbrook-Kingswood compound?

[alp227]

46. yes

Ann Davies knew of Mitt Romney since elementary school.[10] She went to the private Kingswood School in Bloomfield Hills,[12] which was the sister school to the all-boys Cranbrook School that he attended.[12] The two were re-introduced and began dating in March 1965;[13] they informally agreed to marriage after his senior prom in June 1965.[5][13]

--wikipedia article about Ann Romney

[struggle4progress]

48. So Miss Snooty's just sneering at folk who didna go to the "right" schools

[Nancy Waterman]

24. All by herself she disqualifes him

Yuck!

[BigDemVoter]

26. Oh yes, Queen Anne. .

We should immediately eliminate public education and replace it with self-paid private education, since we all earn as much money as your fool husband does.

Christ that asshole remains me of Marie Antoinette. I'm sorry she has MS, but she never lacks $$ for medical care or home-care, and after all the tragedy I see as an RN, I don't feel too sorry for her; she certainly doesn't have it too bad.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

27. You've got to be kidding: "I've been a First Lady of the State."

So she's now an authority on everything because she spent one term as a Governor's wife and Mitt served his country in combat because he was a missionary in France. They are reaching ever further into the land of hype, ballyhoo, and puffery to try to give themselves some remote semblance of credibility that their campaign sounds more like a late night television infomercial than anything else.

[wordpix]

84. which qualifies her for nothing but presiding over tea and coffee

[NICO9000]

28. My God, she is vile!

[eyewall]

29. Karl Rove considers a lack of education essential to republicans

Quote: "As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing."

[JohnnyRingo]

30. Romney has declared labor unions enemy of the state.

From calling for Detroit to fail to dismantling public education, Mitt Romney has sought a cheap(er) labor force for American business. Why anyone who punches a time clock would support him is beyond me.

at every campaign stop Mitt Romney preaches "12 million good jobs at increasing pay", but once a worker joins a union and receives a living wage, Romney and his band of republican corporate raiders cry that it's too much money for a common worker.

Private union workers who vote republican claim they just want to "rein in" the public unions, and conservative public union members feel they would do just fine without a union because they "deserve" what they earn.

They've pitted us one against the other in a mad race to the bottom of the pay scale, while executive compensation runs wild. We're at each other's throats trying to affix blame for a diminishing life style while the culprits sit at board meetings laughing their asses off. Such is the battlefield of class warfare where one side is taking lethal hits and the other taking Caribbean vacations.

[Botany]

31. Good job Ann

You have now lost just about every public school teacher and or university professor's
vote.

[Igel]

33. Eh.

Probably had few to begin with.

Problem is, the public ed system sucks. It does need to be thrown out as it currently is. It was meant to produce a homogenized middle class, originally--one size fits all. Now I'm not sure what it's intended to do. Guarantee that every kid is ready for college and a white-collar career? That's a foolish goal.

The replacement shouldn't be charter schools. Have a triple track: vocational, technical, academic.

[DiverDave]

56. That makes sense

eom

[Trailrider1951]

73. I think that a big part of that today is the leftovers from No Child Left Behind. Teachers have to

spend so much time preparing for those stupid standardized tests, which are designed to measure the TEACHER's, not the student's performance. Where is the time to teach for discovery and passion for learning? Where is the time to teach for coherent thought, induction and deduction? And what about Art and Music programs? Are they so worthless that some schools nowadays do not offer those classes? I guess the money is all going to those (privatized?) standardized test materials. Or did you think those were freebees? No, someone is already making big bucks off your children's education, and wants IT ALL! Meanwhile, your kids get taught to take a test that measures to a standardized bell curve, and not what an exciting pleasure discovery can be. They are taught to be good little drones, not thinking, creative beings.

Disclaimer: I'm 60 years old, and both of my children are married to teachers. They deserve so much more support, from both the public which they serve, and federal, state, and LOCAL authorities, then they are getting for their efforts.

[smirkymonkey]

66. Yes! K&R!

She is a vile piece of work.

[Andy Stanton]

32. What a Disgusting Excuse for a Human Being

I can't stand the bitch.

[Tom Ripley]

35. Does this mean that Meat Loaf is going to dedicate "Bat Out of Hell" to her?

[alp227]

47. DUZY!

[Marrah_G]

36. Public schools and strong teachers unions give you a good education Ann

If you had paid attention you would have realized that the state you were "first lady" of has excellent schools.

[aquart]

37. Awesome, ain't she?

[argiel1234]

39. Ann Romney

needs to "throw out" her vile entitled personality. What a creepy woman

[alp227]

49. Welcome to DU, and I agree about Ann being creepy! I'd add evil too.

[argiel1234]

51. than you for the welcome

[mnhtnbb]

40. This woman makes me want to string a bunch of 4 letter expletives together.

Really. Fuck her. Just fuck her.

[Darth_Kitten]

41. "I have seen what happens to people's lives if they don't get a proper education."

They become Republicans?

[trailmonkee]

43. .

[Blandocyte]

42. Or...

Or maybe throw more money into the system to help those who aren't doing as well in it. But I guess the plan is that those who don't do well in school can always shovel Ann's horses' shit in the stables or something.

[QUALITYCONTRoll]

44. U C A KonT I N R E D

but do U C

S E E the H U N G R Y cat..

M I T T

L A K I N G W i T .....

mitts cat is hungry...

&

Thirsty for more.....

5 times will never fit mitt..........

the pussy-willow welts in the sun for lack of water....

[DesertRat]

50. Can't wait to "throw out" the Romneys!!

[firenewt]

52. Channeling old SNL - 'Ann, you ignorant slut'...........

[wordpix]

53. Queen Ann: have you ever looked at the research that shows charter schools & public have

roughly the same %'s of success and failures? It depends on the state, the city and how the charters operate vs. how a school district operates. The jury is not at all convinced that charters are the answer. Research shows that roughly 50% of charters are more successful than public schools---certainly not a slam dunk that they are the answer.

I work in DC public schools including one charter and one charter-DCPS conglomerate. Before that, I worked in private schools. Trust me, there is no "one size fits all" that is better. The private schools are only better b/c 1) class sizes are smaller; 2) heads can get rid of dead wood and ineffective teachers easier than public schools can; 3) priv. schools have more money for teacher education and development.

Ann, you're such an expert---how? Have you ever worked in a public, private or charter school? Have you ever worked in all 3 to compare/contrast? I think the answer to all these q's is NOOOOOO, so STFU.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

54. If she opened her mouth any wider, you could see what she had for breakfast

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

55. If they can't afford a good school

that's just tough shit - Ann Rmoney.

[rks306]

57. Hey, I've got an idea

Let's make sure this snobish B_t_h never gets HER TURN to be in the White House.

[truthisfreedom]

59. Not working on any level for the US.

[Quantess]

60. Those two deserve each other, don't they?

Yuck. What a loathsome couple.

[spiderpig]

61. Dear Mittens,

We know you are a predatory, conscienceless opportunist and exploiter of honest labor. I happen to think you are stupid as well.

But doesn't your lizard-like sense of self-preservation hint to you that letting Annie pop off like this is harmful to your campaign? Not that I mind, since I think you're a jerk. But I can't think of a single likeable characteristic of this woman. Not one.

Please take her off the public stage.

Yours,

spiderpig

[yurbud]

63. only 17% of charters do better and 37% do WORSE than real public schools

According to the most comprehensive study of them.

http://credo.stanford.edu/reports/National_Release.pdf

While they don't improve education, they do improve the amount of our tax dollars intended for education that make it into the pockets of the already wealthy.

The saddest thing is too many top Democrats agree with this corrupt betrayal of the public trust.

Spend the money to reduce class size, get more aides and tutors, and figure out how to reduce the effects of poverty and family dysfunction.

I don't hear Rupert Murdoch, the Walton family, Bill Gates, Eli Broad and the other country club education "reform" activists advocating any of those obvious things.

[CountAllVotes]

64. That's right Ann

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The dumber the better. That is your philosophy. Maybe if they cannot read nor write, they'll like you better?

I don't think so Ann. I think that YOU Ann Rmoney should find something else do do w/your time, like STFU dare I suggest?

[TrogL]

65. Every teacher in the US should quit if Romney gets in

It's impossible to teach under those conditions.

[Ka hrnt]

67. Factually challenged...

Not that it surprises me:

"The charter schools have provided the answers."

So the "answer" is to replace public schools with schools that, on average, DO WORSE?

From the Stanford CREDO study:

The study reveals that a decent fraction of charter schools, 17 percent, provide superior education opportunities for their students. Nearly half of the charter schools nationwide have results that are no different from the local public school options and over a third, 37 percent, deliver learning results that are significantly worse than their student would have realized had they remained in traditional public schools. These findings underlie the parallel findings of significant state‐by‐state differences in charter school performance and in the national aggregate performance of charter schools.

A few other studies listed here.

[KamaAina]

69. "They should all just go to private school like I did."

[wordpix]

77. exACTly

[calimary]

70. Leona Helmsley lives!

The cost of that outfit, bracelet included, could probably bankroll an inner city school for a month. She has some interesting "statement pieces" in her jewelry collection. I'll bet they cost a pretty penny.

I remember when cindy mccain wore this outfit judged to be about a quarter-million-dollars to her first night at the republi-CON convention in 2008. Bright yellow dress and black patent leather open-toe pumps. Dress by Oscar de la Renta, I believe, which I recall had a price tag of a few thousand dollars. It was the JEWELRY she was wearing that broke the bank. Fitting and proper for the well-accessorized spouse-political combatant. And neither cindy mccain nor ayn wrongney are what you could even remotely call non-combatants.

[Great Caesars Ghost]

75. God damn it, why couldn't cancer throw out Ann Romney?!

[mia]

78. Ann is brain dead

when it comes to an understanding of how education works.

[kwassa]

79. Obama also supports charter schools, folks.

This is not just a Republican talking point. As much as I dislike Ann Romney, Obama's position is not too different.

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1236846703144490.xml&coll=2

Washington- President Barack Obama strongly restated his support for charter schools on Wednesday, despite reservations by Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland, who wants to cut state spending for charters.

The country has "got to experiment with ways to provide a better education experience" for its children, Obama said in an interview with The Plain Dealer and other newspapers.

Citing Cleveland's high dropout rate and inability to prepare many students for college, the president said he wants to "create laboratories of innovation so that in the public school system, we are on a race to the top as opposed to stuck in the old ways of doing things."

Charter schools, educating about 4 percent of Ohio's children, operate like private schools but get state and some federal funding.

[wordpix]

83. "operate like private schools" - that is such BS

I have worked in public, public charter and private schools. Trust me, the charters do NOT operate like private schools b/c usually the class sizes are as large as in most public schools. This is Factor #1 in successful teaching. When you have a class of 25-30, as a very good teacher you are going to leave some percentage behind because you don't have the time to teach weak students 1:1 who can't keep up with the majority. And the majority may include those who could skip a grade due to strong skills and those in the middle who are at or near grade level.

I had a 6th gr. class and the top 10% could have skipped immediately to 7th, the next 20% did very well, the middle 40% understood most of what was going on and the lower 30% were one to five grade levels behind. So in a 6th gr class, there were those operating on the 7th-8th gr. level down to the 1st gr. level, with NO extra help or resources to meet the needs of the lower (or upper) group except what I could muster on my own in a class of 28 (average size). I worked days, nights, weekends and a good portion of vacation time trying to meet all the needs.

Private schools have learning centers staffed with tutors and specialists in learning problems, the teachers are expected to give extra help after school, and the kids' parents can afford to hire tutors. Charters and public schools have these programs only if they are funded or if a non-profit org collaborates with them. Sometimes non-profits provide tutors and after school staff but the schools don't pay for these---the non-profits do.

[kwassa]

87. America wants great education on the cheap.

It can't be done. Most good teachers focus critical time on the weak students, to bring them up to the rest of the class.

My class sizes are going up every year. It means less time with each student, and less with those who need it the most.

[wordpix]

88. that's true - I suggest cutting DOD a few trillion

[lonestarnot]

82. Oh good gawd! What a fucking idiot!

[forest4qt]

85. Ann Romney needs a "public education"

Ann Romney doesn't know anything about public education. In her world education is just another talking point.

[dolphinsrule]

86. she's a joke

Another complete elitist, phony.

[Divine Discontent]

90. she's a tool and has no comprehension of what she's talking about, wait, she does...

she wants Mormon classes getting tax money all over the USA!

these extremists running the GOP are so bass-ackwards, and a threat to the education system in the USA. charters! LOL...



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