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COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:22 PM Nov 2021

Haley Wants Cognitive Tests for U.S. Leaders

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Source: Political Wire

Haley Wants Cognitive Tests for U.S. Leaders
November 4, 2021 at 5:47 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 56 Comments

Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley told the Christian Broadcasting Network that older government leaders should undergo a “cognitive test.”

Said Haley: “If you’re gonna have anyone above a certain age in a position of power — whether it’s the House, whether it’s the Senate, whether it’s vice president, whether it’s president — you should have some sort of cognitive test.”

She added: “Let’s face it, we’ve got a lot of people in leadership positions that are old. And that’s not being disrespectful. That’s a fact.”

Read more: https://politicalwire.com/2021/11/04/haley-calls-for-giving-u-s-leaders-cognitive-tests/



Will she start with a certain former President? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Haley Wants Cognitive Tests for U.S. Leaders (Original Post) COL Mustard Nov 2021 OP
does dr goebbels still have a show on the CBN? nt msongs Nov 2021 #1
I thought it was run by Dr. Goebbels. paleotn Nov 2021 #15
Cognitive tests are produced by scientists, based on research and data. The GOP hates those things. Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #2
Man, Woman, Pretzel, Elephant, TV COL Mustard Nov 2021 #3
You're a god damn genius. Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #9
Now That's Frightening!!! COL Mustard Nov 2021 #39
President Mustard, has a nice ring to it. Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #40
Well, 47 Is Mrs. Mustard's Favorite Number COL Mustard Nov 2021 #41
There you go, all set. You passed the cognitive test, you are up next. Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #42
When I'm Sworn In, I'll Invite You To The Ceremony COL Mustard Nov 2021 #43
Wow two bottles of Jameson. Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #44
Right, she's saying that now that grumpyduck Nov 2021 #4
Ditto. n/t iluvtennis Nov 2021 #27
She actually knows Trump, and she discreetly kept quiet about his cognitive problems. viva la Nov 2021 #5
Take away the age-related application, and I might support that... n/t TygrBright Nov 2021 #6
i'd settle for a basic high school government exam passing score... Claire Oh Nette Nov 2021 #18
Pssssh H2Oart Nov 2021 #7
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #10
I have a better idea: politicians square off in a facts quiz nuxvomica Nov 2021 #8
I Got A Year's Scholarship To College COL Mustard Nov 2021 #37
Isn't she being short sighted? Or has she already given up on further office. marble falls Nov 2021 #11
Sorry, Ms. Haley, Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #12
Precisely Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #20
Yes, and... zipplewrath Nov 2021 #30
I agree. n/t Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #33
Just Rebl2 Nov 2021 #31
It could probably be done at a state level. Gore1FL Nov 2021 #45
Good point. n/t Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #46
It would easier to require voters to pass a cognitive test. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #13
Starting with her? ColinC Nov 2021 #14
Why is this LBN? JohnSJ Nov 2021 #16
I'd settle for a full disclosure of their sources of income. (nt) Pinback Nov 2021 #17
Ageism is rampant and accepted in this country. Sibelius Fan Nov 2021 #19
Little late there Nikki. Good luck in your next endeavor. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #21
Now that shit-fer-brains is safely out of the way . . . NBachers Nov 2021 #22
However she doesn't mind if anyone above a "certain age" owns a gun. Right? Raven123 Nov 2021 #23
So, she wants to force Grassley into retirement, and make sure TFG is no threat to her in 2024 DFW Nov 2021 #24
Rather than a cognition test, slightlv Nov 2021 #25
Grassley Traildogbob Nov 2021 #26
Let's Start With McConnell, Grassley, etc. Deep State Witch Nov 2021 #28
Ageism, alive and well. sinkingfeeling Nov 2021 #29
Once the shrinks get to sign off on everything you can have Republican shrinks to filter the choices bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #32
Don't target an age group - the test should be for everyone FakeNoose Nov 2021 #34
Person... Harker Nov 2021 #35
What's Steve Bannon think? Brainfodder Nov 2021 #36
I'd be happy if they took and passed the citizenship test Xipe Totec Nov 2021 #38
Okay Nikki, if you want to play that game... jmowreader Nov 2021 #47
Hmm Lemon Lyman Nov 2021 #48
Locking JudyM Nov 2021 #49

msongs

(67,394 posts)
1. does dr goebbels still have a show on the CBN? nt
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:24 PM
Nov 2021

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
15. I thought it was run by Dr. Goebbels.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:49 PM
Nov 2021

Irish_Dem

(46,887 posts)
2. Cognitive tests are produced by scientists, based on research and data. The GOP hates those things.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:26 PM
Nov 2021

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
3. Man, Woman, Pretzel, Elephant, TV
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:27 PM
Nov 2021


How'd I do???

Irish_Dem

(46,887 posts)
9. You're a god damn genius.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:36 PM
Nov 2021

And should be the next president of the United States.


COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
39. Now That's Frightening!!!
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:50 PM
Nov 2021

Irish_Dem

(46,887 posts)
40. President Mustard, has a nice ring to it.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:52 PM
Nov 2021

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
41. Well, 47 Is Mrs. Mustard's Favorite Number
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:56 PM
Nov 2021

She being a math geek and all!

Irish_Dem

(46,887 posts)
42. There you go, all set. You passed the cognitive test, you are up next.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 10:02 PM
Nov 2021

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
43. When I'm Sworn In, I'll Invite You To The Ceremony
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 10:09 PM
Nov 2021

Bring two bottles of Jameson...and whatever you want to drink!!!

Irish_Dem

(46,887 posts)
44. Wow two bottles of Jameson.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 10:13 PM
Nov 2021

My brothers and male cousins will be there for sure.

(The Irish ladies in my family prefer ale.)

You can have the White House bubbly.

grumpyduck

(6,231 posts)
4. Right, she's saying that now that
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:29 PM
Nov 2021

tfg is out of the way.

Asshole.

iluvtennis

(19,844 posts)
27. Ditto. n/t
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 07:22 PM
Nov 2021

viva la

(3,284 posts)
5. She actually knows Trump, and she discreetly kept quiet about his cognitive problems.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:30 PM
Nov 2021

I mean, arrogant blind stupidity is bad enough, but add in some strange narcissitic disorder and also senility-- she never called for testing him then.

Then again, Biden would easily pass such a test, and Trump probably couldn't have passed it a decade ago. So go for it, Nikki! Be careful what you wish for.

TygrBright

(20,756 posts)
6. Take away the age-related application, and I might support that... n/t
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:31 PM
Nov 2021

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
18. i'd settle for a basic high school government exam passing score...
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:51 PM
Nov 2021

too many of the tea party strained GQP folks making the most noise are dumber than a box of used hair and have no idea what "representative democracy" is, let alone Federalism.

 

H2Oart

(97 posts)
7. Pssssh
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:34 PM
Nov 2021

She needs one to, to follow this arrogant, racist, piece of crap….enough said. That should disqualify her from anything…..she just landed a lifetime appointment to the Clemson U board of trustees….👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
10. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:37 PM
Nov 2021

nuxvomica

(12,419 posts)
8. I have a better idea: politicians square off in a facts quiz
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:34 PM
Nov 2021

You have Repubs vs Dems compete to have the correct answer in factual questions, like "Is CRT being taught in grade schools?" or "Who is the current president?" I figure they could do it like the old College Bowl.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Bowl

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
37. I Got A Year's Scholarship To College
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:14 PM
Nov 2021

Through my city's High School Bowl. Changed my life...seriously.

But yes, I'd like to see the two parties square off on TV.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
11. Isn't she being short sighted? Or has she already given up on further office.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:38 PM
Nov 2021

Mr.Bill

(24,274 posts)
12. Sorry, Ms. Haley,
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:39 PM
Nov 2021

the constitution clearly spells out the qualifications for the president and Congress. For any further qualifications you'll just have to rely on us lowly voters as to who gets to serve. Any candidate has the choice to voluntarily take any test they want and make it public. You first, Ma'am

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
20. Precisely
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:56 PM
Nov 2021

My first thought was "Please Proceed.........."

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
30. Yes, and...
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:00 PM
Nov 2021

One of those is a minimum age. I think it is long past the time (Reagan) for there to be a maximum age (like for airline pilots) And yeah, it'll take a constitutional amendment. I'm thinking 65, and for senate and house as well, but yeah, I'll be willing to discuss it. Let's talk about the distance between the "average" voter and those in charge. Let's talk about the grasp of new markets and technologies of the elderly "leadership" (the internet is a bunch of tubes) and what is "really" going on. Let's talk about that you aren't even eligible to be President until 35, but voters younger than that have to vote for ONLY people older than that, and MUCH older. How about the "elderly" (as one of them) have to start voting for people younger than they, just as those younger than 35 have to vote for older folks.

What I'm saying is that it is a worthy conversation to be had.

Mr.Bill

(24,274 posts)
33. I agree. n/t
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:30 PM
Nov 2021

Rebl2

(13,485 posts)
31. Just
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:19 PM
Nov 2021

what I was thinking.

Gore1FL

(21,126 posts)
45. It could probably be done at a state level.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 10:29 PM
Nov 2021

They can make any ballot rules they want.

Mr.Bill

(24,274 posts)
46. Good point. n/t
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 10:30 PM
Nov 2021

LiberalFighter

(50,856 posts)
13. It would easier to require voters to pass a cognitive test.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:40 PM
Nov 2021

ColinC

(8,286 posts)
14. Starting with her?
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:43 PM
Nov 2021

JohnSJ

(92,116 posts)
16. Why is this LBN?
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:49 PM
Nov 2021

Pinback

(12,154 posts)
17. I'd settle for a full disclosure of their sources of income. (nt)
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:49 PM
Nov 2021

Sibelius Fan

(24,395 posts)
19. Ageism is rampant and accepted in this country.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:53 PM
Nov 2021

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
21. Little late there Nikki. Good luck in your next endeavor.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:58 PM
Nov 2021

NBachers

(17,098 posts)
22. Now that shit-fer-brains is safely out of the way . . .
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:59 PM
Nov 2021

Raven123

(4,813 posts)
23. However she doesn't mind if anyone above a "certain age" owns a gun. Right?
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 07:05 PM
Nov 2021

DFW

(54,335 posts)
24. So, she wants to force Grassley into retirement, and make sure TFG is no threat to her in 2024
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 07:14 PM
Nov 2021

I guess that is an easy way to force the issue............

slightlv

(2,786 posts)
25. Rather than a cognition test,
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 07:17 PM
Nov 2021

I'd prefer EVERY candidate take a personality test (the same test for all) and those scoring above "x" for sociopathy and/or psychopathology will be disqualified from any race for public service, even dog catcher.

We do, however, still have the constitution and I believe that spells out the qualifications for being president, vice president, etc. Until an amendment for change is passed and approved by 2/3 of the states, I believe it's all just "talk" to rile up the republican base. First, by declaring Biden senile, and 2nd by saying "we're" declaring TFG "senile"....

Ronald Raygun showed "senile" can be gotten around with the correct cabinet members... even tho I'll never agree with what they did. Sociopathy and psychopathology are MUCH more dangerous for us as a society, as we're seeing right now. Much more, and we'll not have a democratic republic to call home any longer. We absolutely do not want a Hawley or De Santis or Lee or any number of other Republican Trumpistas to sit in the catbird seat and try to out-trump Trump. Russia might as well drop a nuke on us now; it would be that devastating.

Traildogbob

(8,709 posts)
26. Grassley
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 07:21 PM
Nov 2021

McConnell, and we all Know Bang Bang Barbie, Marginal Trailer Queen , Gohmert and Cawthorn can’t pass an IQ test. I do however hate that Corpses with a couple years left are making policies for 50+ years in the future.

Deep State Witch

(10,422 posts)
28. Let's Start With McConnell, Grassley, etc.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 07:24 PM
Nov 2021

They look like a bunch of walking corpses.

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
29. Ageism, alive and well.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 07:42 PM
Nov 2021

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
32. Once the shrinks get to sign off on everything you can have Republican shrinks to filter the choices
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:26 PM
Nov 2021

I'm not sure we want to go down this road.

FakeNoose

(32,620 posts)
34. Don't target an age group - the test should be for everyone
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:32 PM
Nov 2021

Some are going to cram for the test, but that's OK. If they're capable of cramming and learning the answers overnight (just like we all did in college) then more power to them. It's the ones who DON'T know the answers and CAN'T learn them, that must be excluded from running for high office.

I'm all in favor of this. No cheating allowed.

Harker

(14,010 posts)
35. Person...
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:38 PM
Nov 2021

Man
Woman
Camera
TV

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
36. What's Steve Bannon think?
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:40 PM
Nov 2021

That should be our FUCK DJT?



The ageist asshole Nikki says what?

I hate the whole power narrative, government is suppose to be boring AF and as invisible to our lives as possible!



Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
38. I'd be happy if they took and passed the citizenship test
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:49 PM
Nov 2021

The test that every green card US resident has to take to become a citizen.

I swear, the average immigrant knows more about our system of government that the average citizen born in the US.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
47. Okay Nikki, if you want to play that game...
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 11:01 PM
Nov 2021

Here’s what I want.

1. Must have been re-elected at least once to either a governorship, US House of Representatives or US Senate, or have been elected to two different offices one of which must be one of the three named in the last sentence.

2. Must pass the US naturalization test.

3. Must pass the Single Scope Background Investigation needed to receive a Top Secret security clearance.

4. Must divulge tax returns, credit report, investment activity and business records for the last 10 years.

5. Must pass the US military enlistment physical.

6. Must pass the Armed Services Vocational Battery (ASVAB) test.

7. Must agree to turn over full control of any businesses and investments to a management team hired by the US government. The team will operate the businesses and manage the investments in a fashion designed to return them to their owner in pretty much the same condition they were in when the owner assumed office.

8. Must submit a photo of his or her current cat. No cat, no office.

Lemon Lyman

(1,349 posts)
48. Hmm
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 11:01 PM
Nov 2021

Okay. I also want implemented an exam based on general knowledge of history, civics, etc... Something like this:

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
49. Locking
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 11:11 PM
Nov 2021

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