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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,920 posts)
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 12:16 PM Oct 2021

US conservation group to drop Audubon name over 'pain' caused by slaveholder

Source: The Guardian

A leading US conservation group, the Audubon Naturalist Society (ANS), has announced it will change its name, due to the “pain” caused by the 19th-century ornithologist and slaveholder John James Audubon.

The group, which holds wildlife sanctuaries across Washington DC, Virginia and Maryland, said that it had become clear its name did not connect to its diverse set of programmes and that some members and volunteers had objected.

“The mission and vision of the organisation have not changed,” said Lisa Alexander, executive director of ANS.

“The deliberate and thoughtful decision to change our name is part of our ongoing commitment to creating a larger and more diverse community of people who treasure the natural world and work to preserve it. It has become clear that this will never be fully possible with the current name.”

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-conservation-group-to-drop-audubon-name-over-pain-caused-by-slaveholder/ar-AAPW8U5

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US conservation group to drop Audubon name over 'pain' caused by slaveholder (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 OP
Next, the 12 US presidents who owned slaves? Sneederbunk Oct 2021 #1
It's coming. jimfields33 Oct 2021 #6
Works for me. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #7
I hope not Polybius Oct 2021 #10
Yes. Polly Hennessey Oct 2021 #14
We can forget they existed because Polly Hennessey Oct 2021 #15
What about Ceasers Palace in Vegas? Dial H For Hero Oct 2021 #16
Five US presidents changed their names. Torchlight Oct 2021 #20
geez milestogo Oct 2021 #2
u mad? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #9
from the article crud Oct 2021 #3
The new name will be "The Caw-caw, Tweet, Chirp Society" FSogol Oct 2021 #8
I was once attacked by a crow, you insensitive creep! Ron Obvious Oct 2021 #18
Tippi is that you? FSogol Oct 2021 #19
Why do birds, suddenly appear... Probatim Oct 2021 #22
Ha! n/t Devil Child Oct 2021 #4
It's their name and they can do anything they want ... Auggie Oct 2021 #5
The question is who are "they"? Sneederbunk Oct 2021 #11
Members of the ANS and other nature enthusiasts (if the article is accurate). nt Torchlight Oct 2021 #21
Member of the National Audubon Society since the '70's. StClone Oct 2021 #12
I don't get the frustration to an organization just changing its own name. Torchlight Oct 2021 #13
In This Case RobinA Oct 2021 #27
I don't see this as affecting memberships rates in any meaningful way. Torchlight Oct 2021 #28
You know WHAT I have to say about THIS?!! chowder66 Oct 2021 #17
I guess the best thing to do is never name anything OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #23
everything should be numbered DBoon Oct 2021 #24
Orwell saw this coming melm00se Oct 2021 #25
People change their names all the time, often for very good reasons. hunter Oct 2021 #26
nice! maybe cancel the similarly problematic homophone Autobahn while we're at it? cadoman Oct 2021 #29

Torchlight

(3,327 posts)
20. Five US presidents changed their names.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 04:10 PM
Oct 2021

Five of them took their middle name and made it their first name. One changed his first, middle, and last names. One changed his last name.

crud

(617 posts)
3. from the article
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 12:27 PM
Oct 2021

ANS said a new name will be chosen following a “deliberate and thoughtful process of listening and learning” with its members and other nature enthusiasts.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
18. I was once attacked by a crow, you insensitive creep!
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 02:33 PM
Oct 2021

Post a trigger warning before posting bird sounds next time!

StClone

(11,683 posts)
12. Member of the National Audubon Society since the '70's.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 01:00 PM
Oct 2021

I applaud their decision to make a change reflecting value over conserving the historic name. Audubon was a great artist, discoverer, frontier naturalist, and in many ways an icon. But his history is one of failure to veiw his fellow man as equal.

Iowa has a city, in a county, named Audubon and I have been there and observed the birds!

Torchlight

(3,327 posts)
13. I don't get the frustration to an organization just changing its own name.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 01:01 PM
Oct 2021

I think we invest far too much emotion into branding and logos. It's just a name. A rose is still a rose.

The fist-in-the-air rage I witnessed when a national football team changed its name recently seemed so much melodrama and over-the-top reaction to nothing more than a name-change. Nothing else changed, nothing at all, just the name, but that change set off so many people.

Maybe it just goes to show how effective Madison Avenue is at convincing so many of us what our standards should be.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
27. In This Case
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 01:11 PM
Oct 2021

it's probably because Audubon is a HUGE presence in birding circles. Huge. He is an actual person. Cancelling him is not going to sit well and it's an erasure of something a lot of people hold dear.

But...if they are trying to increase division, it is a very effective tactic.

Torchlight

(3,327 posts)
28. I don't see this as affecting memberships rates in any meaningful way.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 01:38 PM
Oct 2021

I am confused by the back-to-the-wall assertion Audubon is being cancelled-- again, it's a just name change. Nothing is being denied to any member, and Audubon's name, cataloging methods and base of work will still be part of the field rather than erased.

Re-branding happens often, and is a good indicator of social and cultural sentiment and change. If there is evidence of NAS losing membership over this it would surprise me, as even it's few political stances (opposes drilling for gas on national reserves for example) made no dent, positive or negative, to its membership numbers.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,117 posts)
23. I guess the best thing to do is never name anything
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 06:26 PM
Oct 2021

After anyone, any place, or any object, because nothing will stand up to that level of scrutiny. Nothing. I suppose we are going to have to change every single state name now, since negative things have happened in each one, usually by 'leaders of the community'.

melm00se

(4,990 posts)
25. Orwell saw this coming
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:05 AM
Oct 2021
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

hunter

(38,310 posts)
26. People change their names all the time, often for very good reasons.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 12:17 PM
Oct 2021

Let's say you had the last name of a father who abused you. Why would you keep that?

Why would we force a woman to keep the last name of an ex-husband who turned out to be a turd?

This isn't changing a name for totalitarian politics. This is moving on to a future that recognizes and acknowledges the vile racism that permeates U.S.A. history.

Nobody is erasing history, they're simply not celebrating it.





cadoman

(792 posts)
29. nice! maybe cancel the similarly problematic homophone Autobahn while we're at it?
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:34 PM
Oct 2021

Two white supremacist creations in one shot. Any suggestions on the new names?

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