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Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:58 PM

Amherst College Ends Legacy Admissions Favoring Children of Alumni

Source: New York Times

Amherst College announced on Wednesday that it would no longer give the children of alumni a boost in the admissions process, becoming one of the first highly selective colleges in the country to abandon a practice that has held back efforts to diversify the top echelons of American higher education.

With the announcement, Amherst, a private liberal arts school in Massachusetts, joined the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Johns Hopkins University and the California Institute of Technology in the handful of highly selective schools that have opted against having so-called legacy admissions programs.

“We want to be a leader among higher education institutions, in policies and programs that support access and equity,” said Matthew L. McGann, Amherst’s dean of admissions and financial aid.

About 11 percent of the students admitted to Amherst in recent years have been children of people who graduated from the college. Most members of this year’s freshman class are students of color, and 18 percent are first-generation college students.


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/20/us/amherst-college-legacy-admissions.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

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Reply Amherst College Ends Legacy Admissions Favoring Children of Alumni (Original post)
brooklynite Oct 20 OP
Demovictory9 Oct 20 #1
Mary in S. Carolina Oct 20 #2
NullTuples Oct 20 #3
Sherman A1 Oct 21 #5
bucolic_frolic Oct 21 #4
Johnny2X2X Oct 21 #6
BumRushDaShow Oct 21 #7
CTyankee Oct 23 #10
BumRushDaShow Oct 23 #11
CTyankee Oct 23 #12
BumRushDaShow Oct 23 #13
CTyankee Oct 24 #15
BumRushDaShow Oct 24 #16
CTyankee Oct 24 #17
BumRushDaShow Oct 24 #18
CTyankee Oct 24 #19
BumRushDaShow Oct 24 #20
getagrip_already Oct 21 #8
TheRickles Oct 21 #9
speaktruthtopower Oct 23 #14

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:01 PM

1. that's huge. I bet stanford and Harvard will never do that. got to get that $$$

legacy is the informal way parents pay to get their kids into big named schools...

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:07 PM

2. This is huge

Back to earning an education and not buying an education.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:52 PM

3. The pessimist in me says that what they're really saying is that...

...just being an alumni is not enough. One must be an "active" (read: donating) alumni.

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Response to NullTuples (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 21, 2021, 06:25 AM

5. I agree

Money talks……..

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Oct 21, 2021, 05:42 AM

4. Nature vs. Nurture rages on

Alumni incest ceases to be a thing? Where will privilege go to college?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Oct 21, 2021, 07:01 AM

6. This should always have been illegal

In a country where these elite schools are a meal ticket for life, these opportunities should be reserved for those that most deserve them.

I don't think people realize how the children of the rich cannot fail, their whole lives are handed to them, and when they get into these elite colleges undeservedly, they're just there to make the connections that will guarantee them the "right" job.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Oct 21, 2021, 08:02 AM

7. When I was at (my alma mater) UMASS/Amherst

we used to go to an occasional Amherst college party.

They were part of the area's 5-college Consortium so you had UMASS, Amherst College, Mt. Holyoke College, Smith College, and Hampshire College and you could take courses at any of them if you went to any of those schools.

Amherst was originally all-male and became co-ed a few years before I started (vs Smith and Mt. Holyoke that were, and still are, all-female).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 23, 2021, 02:40 PM

10. When my daughter got into Mt. Holyoke someone remarked "Why is she going to an all girls school?

She's so pretty!"

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #10)

Sat Oct 23, 2021, 03:03 PM

11. ...



I was actually accepted there but chose UMASS since it was (1) cheaper and (2) I had just come from an all-girls high school and wanted to try co-ed, plus there was a small Philly and NYC contingent at UMASS that eventually hung out together.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 23, 2021, 06:36 PM

12. My daughter loved it. She was and is pretty but she was terribly shy. Mt. Holyoke gave her

confidence and she loved the all women environment. Ironically, her three daughters wanted nothing to do with it and chose co-ed schools, the "little Ivies" as they are called.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 23, 2021, 07:11 PM

13. I do think

that some do better in smaller, more intimate school settings and the 4 other schools in the area certainly fit that criteria. And then there was ZooMass.

I would way, at least when I was up there in the late '70s/early '80s, Mt. Holyoke was more low-keyed than Smith. They were both part of the "7 sisters" (Smith, Mt. Holyoke, Radcliffe, Barnard, Bryn Mawr, Wellesley (Hillary Clinton's alma mater), and Vassar).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #13)

Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:22 AM

15. Mt. Holyoke claims Emily Dickenson. Vasser claims Meryl Streep.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #15)

Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:45 AM

16. Well Dickinson

was born in that area (Amherst), so she wasn't "far from home".

(one of the dorms in one of the residential area complexes at UMASS was named after her)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #16)

Sun Oct 24, 2021, 09:22 AM

17. I live in New Haven and it should be noted that Yale changed one of its residential colleges name

from Calhoun College to Grace Hopper College. It was hardly a revolutionary act against white supremacy and for feminism when they did it. It could have sent that message earlier.

I was at the Yale Bowl (go bulldogs!) and its marching band (always up for mischief) features a female baton twirler. She was terrific and well received. And not skinny and I thank them for that. The marching band itself is a parody of Big Ten marching bands. I used to love their antics during half time.

BTW, another highlight of our Yale home football schedule came during half time when Yale was playing Army (dunno why) and a plane flew over the field and a parachutist delivered the game ball. I think that was a first and we all loved it.

Several years ago, unbeknownst to us, Paul McCartney attended the big Harvard/Yale game (his grandson was at Yale at the time). My son was thrilled.

And two years ago was The Game's highlight when climate change activists followed the band at half time and sat down on the field, among them Sam Waterston. It went on and on and finally we left because darkness was falling and with no lights, I was afraid we wouldn't be able to see our way to the parking lot (no lights at the Bowl).

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #17)

Sun Oct 24, 2021, 09:32 AM

18. That's great!!



My dad was a computer programmer at the VA (back when it was still called the "Veterans Administration" ) from the mid-'50s to the mid-'70s (he died of a heart attack young at 50 sadly) and he was taught COBOL by Admiral Hopper (although she wasn't an Admiral at the time). My mom would tell us about how he raved about her.

I know the Harvard/Yale game was a big rivalry, like the UMASS/UCONN rivalry or interestingly, UMASS/Temple (both have similar shool colors).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 24, 2021, 09:45 AM

19. The Game (as it is called) was always a point of controversy at my Thanksgiving dinner where my

ex husband attended. Since The Game was always played the week earlier it was something we could argue about, since he went to Harvard (AND, he "said", he was a member of the Hasty Pudding Club which I doubt).

UCONN should stick to women's basketball, IMO...viva Geno!

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #19)

Sun Oct 24, 2021, 10:29 AM

20. ....

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Oct 21, 2021, 09:34 AM

8. misleading, since MOST "exclusive" colleges abandoned that practice years ago.....

There are only a handful of schools that still permit it. Not that it doesn't still happen, even at schools where it isn't an official part of admissions.

But how about focusing on the few that still do it, rather than making it seem unusual that one school abandoned it. Almost all have.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 21, 2021, 10:31 AM

9. That's news to me. Do you have a link or reference? Thanks.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sat Oct 23, 2021, 09:11 PM

14. Fairer..but

it will cut into alum contributions.

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