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Swede

(35,273 posts)
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:57 PM Sep 2021

Hand count in audit affirms Biden beat Trump, as Maricopa County said in November

Source: Azcentral

A monthslong hand recount of Maricopa County’s 2020 vote confirmed that President Joe Biden won and the election was not “stolen” from former President Donald Trump, according to early versions of a report prepared for the Arizona Senate.

The three-volume report by the Cyber Ninjas, the Senate’s lead contractor, includes results that show Trump lost by a wider margin than the county’s official election results. The data in the report also confirms that U.S. Sen. Mark Kelly won in the county.

Read more: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/09/23/arizona-audit-draft-report-confirms-biden-beat-trump-2020/5835521001/

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Hand count in audit affirms Biden beat Trump, as Maricopa County said in November (Original Post) Swede Sep 2021 OP
Hallelujah Drum Sep 2021 #1
OH Boy! What's DT going to say to that? Yelling for a recount didn't get the results he wanted.nt napi21 Sep 2021 #2
Well, this does prove multigraincracker Sep 2021 #4
They had to have had something ginned up to try and claim proof of election brewens Sep 2021 #3
Yeah, Tell Us Somethng We Don't Know! toughtony Sep 2021 #5
How much money did that cost Cha Sep 2021 #6
That's what I was wondering too. BigmanPigman Sep 2021 #19
Supposedly the taxpayers spent $150,000 on it lees1975 Sep 2021 #28
Washington Post indicated the report is a draft report JohnSJ Sep 2021 #7
So you don't believe the reporting by damn close to every reputable news organization? AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #13
Nope, just reporting how the Washington Post reported it JohnSJ Sep 2021 #15
If true BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #30
I don't think the numbers will be different from the draft. What I suspect may happen is that JohnSJ Sep 2021 #33
:-) Lemon Lyman Sep 2021 #8
I hope my rumper cousin and his wife are waking up now. Bluethroughu Sep 2021 #9
Now they are going to say they thought a "hand count" would be voters raising their hands to vote. C Moon Sep 2021 #10
TFG is still a loser Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #11
YES,...WAS A LOSER, IS A LOSER, AND WILL ALWAYS BE A LOSER..always, always and always from now.. Stuart G Sep 2021 #17
Guess they'll have to audit the audit... Starfury Sep 2021 #12
Trump did even worse in the recount. applegrove Sep 2021 #14
Starting to see why they "got COVID" when they were supposed to release the report ck4829 Sep 2021 #16
Yup. Thought the same thing. DeeNice Sep 2021 #32
Donald Trump can lie, and continue to lie..about everything and anything.....BUT..... Stuart G Sep 2021 #18
Don't cheer. This is a setup for overthrowing the next election. Kablooie Sep 2021 #20
The reply is "this does not show a hand count is any more 'honest' than an automated one... muriel_volestrangler Sep 2021 #27
well, looks the AZ GOP will still be critical of some details. riversedge Sep 2021 #21
I heard that one too... Moostache Sep 2021 #24
Yeah, they will present all sorts of 'issues' to justify voter suppression. Jon King Sep 2021 #22
Some computer security people are already blogging about sinkingfeeling Sep 2021 #25
2 impeachment's- 2 elections - bunch's of law suit's - monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #23
It also confirms the systematic Republican lies Champp Sep 2021 #26
ARIZONA DEMOCRATS NEED TO RECALL KAREN FANN lees1975 Sep 2021 #29
+1 ck4829 Sep 2021 #35
We're not out of the woods with these turkeys yet SpankMe Sep 2021 #31
All that matters is the top line "Audit confirms Biden won AZ" Deminpenn Sep 2021 #34
 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
3. They had to have had something ginned up to try and claim proof of election
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 11:01 PM
Sep 2021

fraud. Whatever it was, they must have realized it wouldn't fly, and put them in legal jeopardy. I hope we see it some day.

lees1975

(6,234 posts)
28. Supposedly the taxpayers spent $150,000 on it
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 08:57 AM
Sep 2021

but some very gullible Trumpie supporters chipped in about $6 million and got scammed. They deserve everything that happened, since the scammer who operated the whole thing was just a money grabbing Trumpie conspiracy theorist himself.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,685 posts)
13. So you don't believe the reporting by damn close to every reputable news organization?
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 12:03 AM
Sep 2021

You think they're going to change their numbers in the next 24 hours?

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
30. If true
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 10:00 AM
Sep 2021

The GQP is going to lose its shit. But I’m waiting for the official release. If it’s different, and the M$M can identify the source of the preliminary report as coming from CyberNinjas HQ - they have a brand new problem… Which of these reports is true?

JohnSJ

(97,340 posts)
33. I don't think the numbers will be different from the draft. What I suspect may happen is that
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:18 AM
Sep 2021

the cyber ninjas final report will still push the big lie by inserting conspiracy crap in their report


Bluethroughu

(6,753 posts)
9. I hope my rumper cousin and his wife are waking up now.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 11:37 PM
Sep 2021

But I'm 99.9% sure they are not.

Haven't spoke to them in 5 years, and don't miss them at all.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
18. Donald Trump can lie, and continue to lie..about everything and anything.....BUT.....
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 12:57 AM
Sep 2021
THIS IS PROOF POSITIVE that Donald Trump lost as Maricopa County said in November..

Kablooie

(18,831 posts)
20. Don't cheer. This is a setup for overthrowing the next election.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:21 AM
Sep 2021

They will point out how the maga hand count is honest and true so they will do it again and find their candidate won next time.

Don’t fall for it!

muriel_volestrangler

(102,980 posts)
27. The reply is "this does not show a hand count is any more 'honest' than an automated one...
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 05:38 AM
Sep 2021

... it just shows that a hand count and automated count produce extremely similar results, and so an automated count is fine unless a result is really close. Then, you have to figure out multiple ways to check it. A hand count would be just one."

Yes, we can cheer, in a tired "yet again, right wing idiots wasted public money to be proved wrong" way.

riversedge

(74,183 posts)
21. well, looks the AZ GOP will still be critical of some details.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:25 AM
Sep 2021




................Still, the authors criticized the county's recordkeeping, cited issues with some of its election systems and proposed some reforms to the state's election processes. The contractors who wrote the report chided Maricopa County for not fully cooperating with the process and said that this prevented "a complete audit."

"Had Maricopa County chosen to cooperate with the audit, the majority of these obstacles would have easily been overcome," the draft report says.

One of the biggest proponents of the ballot review, GOP state Senator Wendy Rogers tweeted that she had spoken with Doug Logan, Cyber Ninjas CEO, and he noted that the leaked draft is "only a partial report" and said "tomorrow's hearings will render findings of great consequence."


Sellers said in his statement, which was released before the draft report, "How could we cooperate with an inquiry that was led by people who have no idea how to run any election, let alone one in the second largest voting district in the United States?"...........................


Biden won Arizona in 2020, draft of report on state Senate GOP-mandated 2020 review shows


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-won-2020-election-arizonas-draft-gop-mandated-2020-review-finds/

By Adam Brewster

September 24, 2021 / 12:38 AM / CBS News

Moostache

(10,268 posts)
24. I heard that one too...
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:47 AM
Sep 2021

Its going to be announced by the Pillow clown at the Neo-Trumpian swearing in right after the election is 'taken down' and so on so forth....blah blah blah...this shit is boring already.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
22. Yeah, they will present all sorts of 'issues' to justify voter suppression.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:51 AM
Sep 2021

The end result of Biden winning was not their goal. THey knew that would happen. Their goal is to throw mud on election procedures, say many ballots were 'strange'.

This is just the start of this tactic to make any lost election seem shady.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
26. It also confirms the systematic Republican lies
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 05:11 AM
Sep 2021

lies, lies, lies - Republicans have earned themselves a vile reputation with all their lies.

SpankMe

(3,364 posts)
31. We're not out of the woods with these turkeys yet
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 10:48 AM
Sep 2021

I don't think these scumbags were specifically looking for a Biden to Trump vote flip. Rather, they were looking to find any small amout of "fraud" they could use as an excuse to implement voter restriction laws.

Deminpenn

(16,474 posts)
34. All that matters is the top line "Audit confirms Biden won AZ"
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:20 AM
Sep 2021

All this "fraud"? There wasn't any.

And Trump? He won't be happy to learn he lost yet again.

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