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Tue Sep 21, 2021, 04:11 AM

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claims victory in Canada election but falls short in bid to form major

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Source: CNN

Montreal(CNN)Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party will form Canada's next government following a tightly contested general election against conservative rival Erin O'Toole.

Trudeau, however, fell short of his target of winning the necessary 170 seats to form a majority government.

As at 2 a.m. ET, Elections Canada showed the Liberals winning 157 seats compared to the Conservatives' 122 seats, with nearly 95% of polls across the country reporting.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/americas/canada-election-results-trudeau-o-toole-intl/index.html



Well, this is certainly very good news.

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Response to Lunabell (Original post)

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 05:01 AM

1. Good compared to what looked possible at one point, I suppose

CNN says the results at the moment show 157 seats for the Liberals, 122 for the Conservatives; that's from 155 and 119 before the election, according to Wikipedia. So, very little change. I think this shows electorates aren't keen on snap elections that are called just to improve the number of seats the government has (like the 2017 UK election, when Theresa May managed to convince the parliament to call an election (despite a rule designed to discourage this), and turned a small majority into a minority, giving the DUP and Brexit nutters extra power).

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Response to Lunabell (Original post)

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 05:07 AM

2. It would have been better news if he had won an outright majority, but it will have to do

It is certainly better than having O'Toole as Canadian PM. Trudeau will now need a coalition partner or rule with a minority in Parliament, which will have to depend on tiny third parties who can hold him hostage (you only get your way if we get ours). I dread the bargaining that will be taking place a week from now after the German elections produce no clear majority (neither of the main two parties will get even 35%), and the smaller parties start waving carrots in the faces of the major parties in order to play kingmaker. They will never get a chancellor from their own party, but they can often say who it WON'T be. At least Canada won't have to put up with that.

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Response to DFW (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 08:10 AM

6. Liberals are running things

5 parties hold seats, 4 of the are to the left of the Cons there, 2 of them are to the left of Trudeau’s Liberals. So there is a coalition of Liberals of about 187 members. If you throw in the left leaning moderates it’s 217 members.

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Response to Lunabell (Original post)

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 07:16 AM

3. Well it appears that endorsements from Pres. Obama & Sec. Clinton carry much more weight than...

some others. I still can't figure out why active members of the US Legislature thought it prudent to inject themselves.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 07:49 AM

4. I didn't know active members could legally influence a foreign election

Guess we'll be seeing more of our active members of the US Legislature crossing the borders to help out.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 07:53 AM

5. Just like when we first started hearing the phrase

“Global Economy”, we are now going to see the phrase “Global politics” more often. And I don’t mean the geopolitical struggles between and in concert with other nations. I mean where the opinions and efforts of one country are affecting other counties elections and politics. We have seen it, but will be witnessing it far more I fear.

Not good at all.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:36 AM

8. I'm a Canadian and never heard about either of these endorsements

Good on them, but I don't think it made much difference in the results. I think a bigger influence was the rise of the Tea Party like People's Party of Canada. They siphoned 5% of the vote away from the more centrist Conservatives and in several ridings, were the difference between a win by the Liberal/NDP/Bloc candidate and the Conservatives. Conservatives had (at least before the mail in votes which get counted today) the highest percentage of votes of any of the parties.

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Response to Lunabell (Original post)

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 08:55 AM

7. umm. kind of like our Senate--not quite enough--maybe not good analogy, but close. Congrats to

Canadians.

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Response to Lunabell (Original post)

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:49 AM

9. Yes it is good news. I wonder why Bernie Sanders was supporting a "spoiler" candidate...

Well, this is certainly very good news.
Yes it is good news. I wonder why Bernie Sanders was supporting a "spoiler" candidate instead of Trudeau. Would things have favored Trudeau more without that type of interference? Did it dissuade people from supporting Trudeau?

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Response to Lunabell (Original post)

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:03 AM

10. Locking

Title of the thread doesn’t match the Article title, as required by the SOP.

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