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Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:34 PM

SpaceX's private Inspiration4 mission splashes down safely in Atlantic Ocean

Source: CNBC

SpaceX safely returned its Crew Dragon spacecraft from orbit on Saturday, with the capsule carrying the four members of the Inspiration4 mission back to Earth after three days in space. Crew Dragon capsule Resilience splashed down off the coast of Cape Canaveral, Florida in the Atlantic Ocean. Elon Musk tweeted his congratulations to the crew shortly after splashdown.

The historic private mission — which includes commander Jared Isaacman, pilot Sian Proctor, medical officer Hayley Arceneaux and mission specialist Chris Sembroski — orbited the Earth at an altitude as high as 590 kilometers, which is above the International Space Station and the furthest humans have traveled above the surface in years. A free-flying spaceflight, the capsule did not dock with the ISS but instead circled the Earth independently at a rate of 15 orbits per day.

Inspiration4 shared photos from the crew’s time in orbit, giving a look at the expansive views from the spacecraft’s “cupola” window.This is the third time SpaceX has returned astronauts from space, and the second time for this capsule – which previously flew the Crew-1 mission for NASA on a trip that returned in May. Both prior SpaceX astronaut missions splashed down in the Gulf of Mexico, making this the first that returned in the Atlantic Ocean.

The mission also comes with multiple other milestones for Musk’s company, including: The first private SpaceX spaceflight, the first entirely nonprofessional crew to become astronauts, the first Black female spacecraft pilot, the youngest American astronaut to date, and the first person to fly in space with a prosthesis.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/18/watch-spacex-livestream-inspiration4-splashdown-crew-dragon-returns.html








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SpaceX
@SpaceX
Splashdown! Welcome back to planet Earth, @Inspiration4x!
7:08 PM · Sep 18, 2021


Now they are rigging it up to lift it out of the water and onto the recovery ship.

ETA - now on the ship.

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Reply SpaceX's private Inspiration4 mission splashes down safely in Atlantic Ocean (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Sep 18 OP
PSPS Sep 18 #1
Farmer-Rick Sep 19 #19
lonely bird Sep 18 #2
diverdownjt Sep 19 #13
lonely bird Sep 19 #15
BumRushDaShow Sep 19 #18
lonely bird Sep 19 #20
BumRushDaShow Sep 19 #28
Happy Hoosier Sep 19 #22
Tommymac Sep 19 #23
BumRushDaShow Sep 19 #29
Sneederbunk Sep 18 #3
diverdownjt Sep 19 #14
CaptainTruth Sep 18 #4
question everything Sep 18 #6
CaptainTruth Sep 18 #5
RussBLib Sep 19 #25
BidenRocks Sep 19 #7
Sapient Donkey Sep 19 #8
BidenRocks Sep 19 #9
BumRushDaShow Sep 19 #12
lonely bird Sep 19 #16
BumRushDaShow Sep 19 #17
ripcord Sep 19 #26
BumRushDaShow Sep 19 #27
sarchasm Sep 19 #10
NBachers Sep 19 #11
ancianita Sep 19 #21
Tommymac Sep 19 #24

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:54 PM

1. So happy the untaxed oligarchs get to ride their exclusive carnival ride.

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Response to PSPS (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:49 AM

19. It would make a good Saturday morning cartoon

Billionaires in Space.....

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:43 PM

2. Not possible for me to care less

I am glad that the people are safe. Beyond that? Howzabout the monies be spent on some other things?

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Response to lonely bird (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:18 AM

13. That's his money to spend...let him...it's his buissness not your's.

This is paving the way for all of humanity to survive the big rock hit.
If you don't think it can happen...look at Chelyabinsk a few years ago.
the rock's are out there and it will happen again...GO SpaceX GO.

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Response to diverdownjt (Reply #13)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:28 AM

15. Um, no, it is not

Paving the way for humanity to survive the big rock hit takes far more than SpaceX or any other billionaire. It takes monies on a truly massive scale, planning on a truly massive scale including experts from likely hundreds of fields.

I don’t give a damn about SpaceX. It is a waste of money. Sure, we can use the old “it’s his money” bullshit excuse but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a waste.

Oh, and when or if the big rock comes billionaires should have no more advantage in being selected than any other person on the planet.

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Response to lonely bird (Reply #15)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 08:51 AM

18. "I don't give a damn about SpaceX."

So you prefer that the U.S. go back to only using Russian Soyuz vehicles to take our astronauts up to the ISS instead of the American SpaceX, which is who has started doing them for us now?

RAH RAH RUSSIA!!!111!!!!!!

M'kay.

The "millionaires and billionaires" sloganeering is just juvenile.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:00 PM

20. And "rah, rah, Russia" isn't juvenile? Spare me your sarcasm.

Who will decide who gets to live if or when the aforementioned big rock hits?

Who will get to decide how colonies on the moon or Mars are established and how they will be governed?

Don’t put fucking words in my mouth. Did I say that I wanted the U.S. just to use Russian crap?

I want a U.S. space program. I am well aware that equipment is built by companies. I DON’T want companies and people like Bezos, Musk and Branson controlling the program.

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Response to lonely bird (Reply #20)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:33 PM

28. We'll never have "colonies"

without a broad coalition of people.

We have a U.S. space program. It's operating just fine and it has ALWAYS used private contractors to assist in the development of our space craft and you are continuing to dismiss that.

None of those men is "controlling" any of our "programs". They are doing their own thing and OUR PROGRAM is "hiring them" to do a specific set of tasks as part of that. All 3 "applied" to supply their services to OUR PROGRAM. Right now only ONE has been able to successfully do that to date and that is SpaceX.

Last I heard, when you "hire someone", YOU are "in control". They are not "hiring" the U.S. government. If you want to look at "deep pockets", the U.S. Treasury is the deepest of them all and surely dwarfs that of the "billionaires".

If you can't see past those 3 private owners, then maybe consider trashing threads like this in the future.

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Response to lonely bird (Reply #15)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:50 PM

22. A waste of money? review the history of aviation.

Expanding the development of access to space to multiple companies, and lowering the "expertise" bar for crew/passengers is a critical step to making such access cheap and reliable. In the early 20th century, such a thing happened in aviation, and the development of that technology happened very quickly.

Companies like Space-X and Virgin Galactic, and Blue Horizon are making that happen.

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Response to Happy Hoosier (Reply #22)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 04:36 PM

23. +1

I don't like the 1% at ALL. But this is cutting edge technology that can potentially one day save all of us.

No issues with SpaceX or Musk for this.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:18 PM

3. Far more important than the Branson and Bezos stunts.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:21 AM

14. Yes because those were stunt's by comparison...

All will be beneficial someday in the not too distant future.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:20 PM

4. Impressive engineering. It's good to see America return to position of leadership...

...in aerospace.

And sadly, cue all the comments from folks who think the hundreds of thousands of Americans who work to support our space program don't deserve a good job that allows them to house & feed their families, just because a few rich guys are involved.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:47 PM

6. Bravo!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:31 PM

5. Mission commander donated $100 million to St Jude, Elon Musk $50 million

But hey they're rich so we have to hate them & say $150+ million for a children's hospital doesn't matter.

/sarcasm?

Edit to add: Confirmed this mission has now raised more than $200 million for St Jude Children's Hospital.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 06:13 PM

25. Elon tossed in the extra $50 million

To get up to $200 million. Good for him.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:09 AM

7. This is less America

This is Elon's show and I love it!
Since Star Trek in 1966 I wanted excitement,
This is Elon Musk, not NASA.
I am too old to wait.

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Response to BidenRocks (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:15 AM

8. I view this as very much being America

It's hard to imagine another country where Elon Musk would have been able to build the company that SpaceX is today. Policies, funding, and talent from the US is why this is happening. s

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Response to Sapient Donkey (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:32 AM

9. New Zealand perhaps?

Unless you are based in a red state, (look at all the biggies), you get millions to their billions.
Where is the adventure in NASA.
Space X has landed 92 boosters. What has NASA, not JPL, done of note lately?
SLS? Artemis?

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Response to BidenRocks (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:13 AM

12. "What has NASA, not JPL, done of note lately? "

Why are people so blind to the fact that NASA CONTRACTED OUT ALL OF ITS SPACE PROGRAM throughout its entire existence?

The main difference between "then" and "now" is that back then (before 2011), when NASA did their contracts and used "taxpayer dollars" to pay for it, the government "owned" the end product (the "tech" - hardware, software modules, etc) so that NASA could "slap its name on the side of the vehicle" per the contract stipulation. The actual "non-private industry government employees were essentially SMEs (subject matter experts), researchers, and techies, with many of them becoming Project Managers who helped to define the project goals, do some design, and be able to "define the work product" so that the actual work could be contracted to private entities to build and maintain.

Government employees worked alongside their contractors as part of teams to get the job done.

"Now", it's the same taxpayer dollars used for NASA contracts where the government "defines" the goals and helps with the design elements, but are allowing private industry to "own" their product (probably with some exceptions where the government defines which hardware/software modules are or should be "government-owned" systems), so a contractor (private entity) like SpaceX, can slap THEIR name on the side of the vehicle.

I hate to say but the difference is essentially a "cosmetic" change, outside of the fact that the federal government is not supposed to be a "for-profit" entity where private industry (at least in this field) generally is.

For example, some of the big contractors were -

BOEING - https://www.boeing.com/space/
GRUMMAN (now Northrop-Grumman) - https://www.northropgrumman.com/space/space-legacy/
MCDONNELL-DOUGLAS (eventually gobbled up by Boeing) - https://old.texasarchive.org/a_journey_to_the_moon/mcdonnell_douglas/
GENERAL ELECTRIC - https://www.ge.com/news/reports/the-right-stuff-ge-tech-has-been-at-the-launch
LOCKHEED MARTIN - https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/history/space-race.html
NORTH AMERICAN/ROCKWELL - https://old.texasarchive.org/a_journey_to_the_moon/north_american_rockwell/
ROCKETDYNE - https://www.rocket.com/who-we-are/history

See this too - https://history.nasa.gov/MHR-5/app_c.htm

For example, the contractors involved with the Saturn rockets (which are still used today) -







This may be instructive - https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4102/contents.htm

And note this from the above link -

Chapter 4

The NASA Acquisition Process: Contracting for Research and Development

A SUMMARY OF NASA CONTRACTING PHILOSOPHY






[65] From its establishment to the present, NASA has contracted with the private sector for most of the products and services it uses.

https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4102/ch4.htm


There is this disingenuous fantasy going around that NASA was peopled with nothing but a bunch of GS-7 and GS-9 Civil Service "grunts" running around designing and constructing space craft and there was no "private industry" involved.

And I say this as a now-retired, 30+ year federal employee who worked with "contractors" at my own worksite, at various points throughout my federal career.


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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #12)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:42 AM

16. Yeah, those contractors performed as they did

Because NASA required them to do so. My father-in-law worked at NASA at what is now the Glenn facility in Cleveland for many years. So, yeah, there were plenty of NASA employees who were every bit as instrumental as those companies.

The only reason those companies did what they did is because the government doesn’t own the means of production. They did what they did at the direction of the government.

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Response to lonely bird (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 08:35 AM

17. Exactly

The government came up with the concepts and goals, set expectations for the work product, and monitored the output.

But the entire production process of NASA wasn't done by "Civil Service employees" as what seems to be the fantasy narrative being insisted upon here.

And even if we brought the shuttle program back (and I prefer that tech rather than doing retro-style "splash downs" in the ocean - although I understand there were many technical and energy consumption issues with the shuttles), it would be the same thing - contracting out.

Before SpaceX (which is an American company) started doing the recent crew missions to the ISS, we were paying fucking Russia to take our astronauts (and supplies) up there and bring them back. As the rancor between the U.S. and Russia has ramped up, I sure as hell wouldn't want something as sensitive as getting crew up and back to the ISS, put into jeopardy. In the recent past, post-USSR, a lot of the back and forth rhetoric between the U.S. and Russia was generally just rhetoric. But now it has taken on a more ominous tone that threatens even "international scientific agreements", which tried to stay away from "politics".

Converting the U.S. to a "Marxist-style" system is just silly because pure human nature and behavior will never allow it to thrive in any "pure" form. We can't even get people to wear a fucking mask.

And if you go one step further to "Communism" where the "people own the means of production", you still have the danger of despot leaders throwing monkey wrenches into the process.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #17)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 06:15 PM

26. We wouldn't have got to the moon without large corporations

Everyone from IBM to General Motors and Boeing along with hundreds of other contractors.

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Response to ripcord (Reply #26)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:08 PM

27. Correct

and you saw my post about that contracting - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2802123

The contracts help to broaden the scope of talent to get a job done. And those mentioned were just the "Prime" contractors. All of them had subcontractors who could work smaller parts of a contract, including designing, sourcing, or manufacturing special or proprietary parts, as well as being able to provide temp SME services.

A most recent example is a contractor who worked with NASA and JPL folks on this adorable little guy -



AeroVironment - https://www.avinc.com/about/mars-helicopter

I had to bust out the earbuds to hear the audio of Ingenuity's flight from the clip above because I have ambient noise from an air purifier nearby and couldn't make it out, even with the sound all the way up.

That little helicopter is just damn cool and doing that on another planet! I saw mention that the Ingenuity project and mission has been extended indefinitely as of September 5, 2021.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:51 AM

10. Bravo SpaceX!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 06:36 AM

11. I've been along for the ride since Sputnik. I will not be a sullen old coot about this. The first

movie I remember seeing was called Conquest of Space in 1955.

Congratulations to those who've worked on every scientific advancement that has brought us to this point in our journey into space!

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Response to NBachers (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:36 PM

21. Totally with you. I also want the public & private coordinated to prevent societal collapse,

such a partnership can do BOTH for the benefit of humans.

When government regulates that partnership, corporations do much more well AND good.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 04:39 PM

24. I am a space geek from the 1960's...and I am so psyched I'm almost wetting myself

WOW!

That is all.

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