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Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:52 PM

CDC study finds Moderna vaccine is best at preventing Covid-19 hospitalization

Source: MSN/Politico

Modernaís Covid-19 vaccine is the most effective at protecting against Covid-19 hospitalizations, according to a study published Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

An analysis of more than 3,600 adults hospitalized at 21 U.S. facilities from March to August found that vaccine efficacy against hospitalization was 93 percent for the Moderna vaccine compared to 88 percent for the Pfizer-BioNTech shot.

The effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine declined significantly after 120 days, the CDCís report said, although it still provided strong protection against severe disease.

The Moderna vaccine also produced higher post-vaccination antibody levels than the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, the study found.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-study-finds-moderna-vaccine-is-best-at-preventing-covid-19-hospitalization/ar-AAOyCHg?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531



Oh well, I got the Pfizer vaccine, because at the time it seemed to have the mildest side effect where as my cousin felt pretty ill for a day with the Moderna vaccine.

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TomCADem Sep 17 OP
JohnSJ Sep 17 #1
Chin music Sep 17 #4
JohnSJ Sep 17 #12
Chin music Sep 17 #13
JohnSJ Sep 17 #14
Chin music Sep 17 #15
JohnSJ Sep 17 #16
TomCADem Sep 17 #19
JohnSJ Sep 17 #22
Nasruddin Sep 17 #21
cadoman Sep 18 #25
Arkansas Granny Sep 17 #2
Texin Sep 17 #3
JohnSJ Sep 17 #8
Chin music Sep 17 #6
Chin music Sep 17 #9
AngryOldDem Sep 17 #17
Marthe48 Sep 17 #5
BumRushDaShow Sep 17 #11
BootinUp Sep 17 #7
JohnSJ Sep 17 #10
LisaL Sep 18 #28
JohnSJ Sep 18 #29
cstanleytech Sep 17 #18
Moebym Sep 17 #20
Mawspam2 Sep 17 #23
NH Ethylene Sep 18 #24
LisaL Sep 18 #27
Karma13612 Sep 18 #26
Sabrielo Sep 18 #30
GPV Sep 19 #31

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:55 PM

1. 88% verses 93%, is that really a significant difference Politico?

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Response to Chin music (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:14 PM

12. The messaging has been terrible from both the CDC and WHO, and the media is definitely

exploiting it, not in a good way





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Response to Chin music (Reply #13)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:18 PM

14. LOL. Can't counter that one, though trump did put his people in the CDC to help the confusion

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Response to Chin music (Reply #15)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:21 PM

16. yup

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 05:04 PM

19. I am not really crazy about the idea of trying to massage facts for messaging purposes

Reality and science do not always lend themselves to sound bites.

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #19)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 07:16 PM

22. I agree

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 05:50 PM

21. See this chart

The innumerate idiots who published that story made a hash of it, but this chart makes it clear


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(The rest of Dr Topol's commentary is, as usual, very helpful)

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:58 AM

25. it's disappointing for them to lead with that comparison

That small a difference is accounted for by dozens of other possible factors. I think a big one is simply that the vaccines get distributed across different regions with different hospitalization standards and demographics.

There's so much misinformation being spread right now. We don't need our most excellent reporting outlets to put inaccurate ideas in people's heads, and that's what this headline did.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:58 PM

2. I got the Moderna because that's what was available when I got my appointment.

Early on we were being advised to take any of the vaccines ASAP.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:02 PM

3. Same here. I didn't receive my first shot until February.

But I had wanted to get the Moderna vaccine as opposed to the J&J or Pfizer because there were reports at the time that people were having weird clotting issues with Pfizer.

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Response to Texin (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:11 PM

8. The reports of clotting issues were mostly with the AstraZeneca and JNJ. The mRNA vaccines

both Pfizer and Moderna had some reports of very rare clotting issues, but there was no definite correlation to attribute them to the mRNA vaccines.

The one thing the data seems to indicate with the mRNA vaccines is that the Moderna vaccine is slightly more effective in preventing serious disease, 5%

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:42 PM

17. I was offered the choice.

I really donít know why I said Moderna. Yes, the side effects of the second shot were not pleasant, but compared to getting COVID Iím not complaining.

Waiting to see what the recommendation is about Moderna.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:07 PM

5. My daughter and I were wondering

I think our choices were geographical-she lives in an urban area and I live in Appalchia. She got Pfizer and I got Moderna. One of my local friends said she thought Moderna was available in rural areas because transport and storage didn't require the super cold temps Pfizer does.

As for getting a booster, I'll wait to see what is recommended.

Even if $$$$$$$$$ is involved, I'd love to see the companies sharing their R&D, and get the vaccines out to the public, all over the world. And more people get it.

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:14 PM

11. "I think our choices were geographical-she lives in an urban area and I live in Appalchia"

I live in Philly and got Moderna - but it was done literally right when they started approving and distributing vaccines to some of the independent pharmacies and the one nearest to me had Moderna.

The big mass vaccination sites were doing Pfizer.

As a note, Pfizer was approved for an EUA before Moderna was too...

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:10 PM

7. They are both damn effective then. Nt

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:12 PM

10. Exactly. 88% verses 93%. I'll take those odds anyday

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 04:07 PM

28. That was the overall number.

But Moderna's immunity was holding steady over the time period studied, while Pfizer's waned.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/17/1038382019/moderna-covid-vaccines-pfizer-johnson-hospitalization

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Response to LisaL (Reply #28)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 04:56 PM

29. 77% is still very effective

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 05:04 PM

18. Guess they will need to give those of us that had the Pfizer vaccine a booster sooner.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 05:21 PM

20. I received the Moderna vaccine at UNLV on the first day I was eligible for it

I had no idea which one I'd be receiving, and I didn't have a preference at the time - my top priority was to get vaccinated as soon as possible.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 08:57 PM

23. I'm double Pfizered...

...but will ask for the Moderna as a booster.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:41 AM

24. Moderna shots had over 3x more mRNA in the vaccine than Pfizer.

100 micrograms for Moderna, 30 for Pfizer. Maybe that's why it's lasting longer, and also why there were more side effects with Moderna vaccines than the Pfizer.

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Response to NH Ethylene (Reply #24)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 04:05 PM

27. Yep, it's a higher dose.

I originally wanted Pfizer, but Moderna was what I could get vaccinated with first. Now I am glad I got Moderna. It seems to have better staying power than Pfizer.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:43 PM

26. Interesting, In north carolina

We didnít have a choice thru Walgreens. It was only Moderna. Yea, I was sick for a full 24 hours following the 2nd shot. But, Now Iím slightly, slightly better covered. I think 5% difference in the effectiveness is pretty insignificant.

All I care about now is getting the booster when it is recommended and available since Iím 67 with history of some lung issues.


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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:56 PM

30. I got Pfizer

 

It's good too.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:49 AM

31. I got the J&J. I work in an elementary school. I really wish I could get a booster.

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