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Thu Aug 26, 2021, 05:29 PM

Biden Says U.S. Will Seek Retribution for Kabul Attacks; 'We Will Hunt You Down'

Source: Wall Street Journal

WASHINGTON—President Biden said the U.S. would seek retribution for the attacks Thursday in Afghanistan that killed 12 American servicemembers and dozens of Afghans and promised to continue evacuation efforts.

“We will not forgive. We will not forget. We will hunt you down and make you pay,” Mr. Biden said during remarks Thursday evening at the White House. He said he had instructed his national security advisers to develop response plans to the attack.

Meanwhile, the U.S. evacuation effort would move forward, he said. “We will not be deterred by terrorists,” he said, adding, “We will continue the evacuation.”

Mr. Biden added of the loss of life, “We’re outraged as well as heartbroken.” He called the members of the U.S. military who died and were injured heroes. He added that the situation on the ground remained volatile.

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-to-address-afghanistan-attacks-as-humanitarian-political-crisis-worsens-11630009841

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Reply Biden Says U.S. Will Seek Retribution for Kabul Attacks; 'We Will Hunt You Down' (Original post)
TheProle Aug 2021 OP
keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #1
Cha Aug 2021 #13
mwooldri Aug 2021 #17
Cha Aug 2021 #20
Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #21
emmaverybo Aug 2021 #2
trof Aug 2021 #3
wnylib Aug 2021 #5
trof Aug 2021 #7
wnylib Aug 2021 #18
onetexan Aug 2021 #9
Cha Aug 2021 #14
jmowreader Aug 2021 #27
Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #6
trof Aug 2021 #8
keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #15
Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #22
Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #31
GB_RN Aug 2021 #32
LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #4
Cha Aug 2021 #16
roamer65 Aug 2021 #10
Turbineguy Aug 2021 #11
Aussie105 Aug 2021 #12
SergeStorms Aug 2021 #19
Smackdown2019 Aug 2021 #23
Aussie105 Aug 2021 #24
RainCaster Aug 2021 #25
Bmoboy Aug 2021 #26
dflprincess Aug 2021 #28
IronLionZion Aug 2021 #29
bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #30
Martin Eden Aug 2021 #33
Steelrolled Aug 2021 #35
Martin Eden Aug 2021 #36
Steelrolled Aug 2021 #34

Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:13 PM

1. Trump::: We would release you from prison.

Trump::: We would release you from prison.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:45 PM

13. Yes and of course trump did release 5,000

Taliban from prison and got Nothing in return.

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Response to Cha (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:02 PM

17. I believe it's worse.

Taliban take Kabul. There's now no government in Afghanistan and no one in jail. All prisoners are out. That includes ISIS and Al-Quaeda.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #17)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:12 PM

20. Yes, TY

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #17)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:13 PM

21. It's kind of hard to tell who should be in jail over there.

Seems like most of them deserve to be. Too bad we can't put bars around the the whole damned country.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:26 PM

2. ISIS too violent for even al Quaeda. I dob't feel very pacifistic when it comes to that psycho lot.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:26 PM

3. The problem is "they" don't care about revenge/retribution.

They are fanatics and they look forward to sleeping in the arms of Allah with the 17 (or whatever) virgins.
Death is a REWARD for them.
Threats don't deter.

Afghanistan will go back to where it was 40 years ago, before the Russians and before us.
Biden is a brave man who may have committed political suicide by doing the right thing.
It won't be the first time a president has done that.
See LBJ.

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Response to trof (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:42 PM

5. I don't think that Biden cares

that Isis doesn't care. His message was for the American people and for the world. It was not a threat to intimidate Isis. It was a promise to make the world safer from Isis.

Biden will deliver on that promise. He will not send huge numbers of troops to the region to look for them. He will coordinate with our intel and with the intel of our allies. He will strike at a time and place of our choosing. Our military has special forces for this kind of mission. They took out OBL. They will take out the Isis culprits. Count on this. It will happen.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:52 PM

7. Yeah, I kinda thought that was for U.S. 'morale'(?)

I have to wonder how much (if any) of our 'eyes on' intel we will have.
We still have sigint, drones, etc.
But how much 'sandals-on-the-ground' eyeball info?

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Response to trof (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:11 PM

18. Don't make the mistake of thinking

that Biden was just speaking for the morale of Americans. He meant every word.

Our intel on the suicide attacks in Kabul was on the mark. We gave warnings the night before that it was imminent within a few hours. Some of that intel came from the UK.

We will coordinate with allies and contacts. We have many ways to find them and take them out. It will happen.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:11 PM

9. +1 K&R

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Response to wnylib (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:51 PM

14. Well said.. Fucking ISIS Monster Cowards.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:19 PM

27. And the best part is...

...that as bad as the Taliban hates ISIS, they might even help us out. Hopefully not by joining in the shooting, but they know the area better than we do and would know where these assholes hang out.

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Response to trof (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:44 PM

6. The Brits got their ass kicked too. Graveyard of empires. Such a f'in waste. Many made big $$.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:54 PM

8. Kipling on the middle east:

"Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle the Aryan brown, For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down; And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased, And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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Response to trof (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:52 PM

15. The Young British Soldier by Rudyard Kipllng

WHEN the 'arf-made recruity goes out to the East
'E acts like a babe an' 'e drinks like a beast,
An' 'e wonders because 'e is frequent deceased
Ere 'e's fit for to serve as a soldier.
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen!

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The Young British Soldier by Rudyard Kipllng

Read the rest of the poem.... it's worth it.

http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_youngbrit.htm

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When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen!

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Response to trof (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:26 PM

22. Nicely done! Some things stay the same, despite all the technology and "nation building."

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Response to trof (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 06:57 AM

31. As to your last point,

I wouldn’t write off Biden yet. Yes, his popularity will take a big hit. But Americans have short memories, I bet Biden’s popularity recovers in the next few months.

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Response to trof (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 08:13 AM

32. The Ones They Convince To Do The Bombings Don't Care About Living, But...

The ones who do the talking do...that's why they don't do the bombings themselves. If Osama bin Laden was a doer, he'd have been on a plane himself. But he was just a talker who was good at convincing others to do what he wasn't willing to do. Same with these assholes. Bet if you found their cave, they'd run like roaches when the light gets turned on (until absolutely cornered).

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:39 PM

4. "We will not forgive. We will not forget. We will hunt you down and make you pay." - President Biden

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:53 PM

16. Rt TY for this.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:14 PM

10. Just because we are pulling troops out does not mean we won't use special ops and drones.

That is the next phase.

Joe will fight ISIS smarter.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:40 PM

11. I suspect

these dead-enders were let in by somebody in the Taliban. Perhaps just a local corrupt guy. Not officially of course.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:41 PM

12. Twenty years ago

Afghanistan was a lawless country, with different factions fighting for dominance.

Nothing has changed in that time. Blowing things and people up is still a preferred option for some factions.

Once the evacuations are complete, I guess targeted drone strikes will be the go to method for the US military.
Unless Biden orders a 'hands off' approach, but it doesn't sound like that at the moment.

Meanwhile, here in little old Adelaide, South Australia, some Afghan shop keepers are looking very unhappy. With good reason.

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Response to Aussie105 (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:11 PM

19. You'd think the people of Afghanistan....

would have had enough of this by now, but that would be an erroneous assumption.

At the first sign that occupying forces were going to leave the country, they cut and ran. Same as always.

They can have their ancient, tribal society and rot in it. No aid, no protection, no intelligence. It's all yours, Afghanistan. Apparently you'd rather live like that than fight for your freedom.
We gave you countless chances. Goodbye. Forever.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:26 PM

23. Not a mistake!

Mistake was being there as long as we have!

Now, the equipment that will left behind should be used as prime targets in the next phase. Not to mention, costs of fuel to a region that has no infrastructure once we leave and the know how to use the equipment. Equipment that is mostly wore out.

What is Afghanistan? It's a desert! No fuel, no real crops, no infrastructure and no industry. Kinda reminds you of star wars of Luke's teenage home. We accomplished our mission years ago and it's up to those that had a taste of freedom the past 20 years if they want to be free or cow down.

Enough is Enough! Biden did the right call, Trump would of sat on his 3rd hole and fiscally dump money into a deep pit, with American lives lost. Coming September, we need to keep our guard up.

Focus on the virus!

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:27 PM

24. Civil war coming?

Let the victors rule the ruins.

Any factions over there any good at rebuilding a civil war ravaged, ruined society? No, didn't think so.

USA: By all means take out the ISIS/Taliban leadership with targeted drone strikes.

Not going to help. Just about as much as spending 20 years trying to wrap Afghanistan in a veneer of American style democracy.

And . . . be ready for a repeat of 911.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:31 PM

25. Don't forget - we have their money

We seized many bank accounts

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:32 PM

26. Isn't that how we got into this thing?

Revenge

Imagine assaulting the invader as he leaves your country.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:24 PM

28. "We will hunt you down and make you pay,"

I never thought Joe Biden would make me think of Liam Neeson, but he did today (and I mean this as a compliment).

And if Joe doesn't have "a particular set of skills", he knows people who do.



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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 11:21 PM

29. I'm think Obama style drone strike

rather than any chance of a Bush-style ground war. After all, Obama made it a priority to hunt down and kill Bin Laden.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 05:35 AM

30. Spine

TFG never had it. He had balls, but not spine.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 09:49 AM

33. I wish Joe hadn't said that

Fulfilling that promise could be extremely problematical, and provide some potent ammo to our president's domestic enemies.

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #33)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 10:06 AM

35. I think he just had to say it, politically.

 

Probably we'll send in a few cruise missiles and call it done.

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #35)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 10:36 AM

36. Sending in cruise missiles would be worse

We've had far too much "collateral damage" from missiles and drone strikes, killing far too many innocent women and children with no guarantee the intended targets were taken out.

The goal should be to weaken ISIS, not help them recruit more terrorists. This conflict needs to be fought in the arena of intel, covert ops, and winning hearts & minds.

Also, we want to rescind the War Powers Act which gives presidents vast discretion in committing acts of war undeclared by Congress.

The so-called "War on Terror" employing military intervention has proven to be a nearly complete failure, doing more to metastasize the spread of violent jihad than to quell it.

Perhaps it WAS politically necessary for Joe to publicly vow we would "hunt down" those behind the recent ISIS attack, but the need for such bold tough words to convey an image of strength says more about the dysfunction of American politics than the true strength of our Union.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 10:04 AM

34. The US lost Vietnam and we weren't even trying to

 

nation-build, or make sure girls went to school.

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