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Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:16 PM

L.A. County will require masks indoors amid alarming rise in coronavirus cases

Source: LA Times

Faced with a distressing rise in coronavirus cases, Los Angeles County will again require residents to wear masks in indoor public spaces -- regardless of their vaccination status.

The new order, which comes a little more than two weeks after the county recommended the same protocols as a precaution, will go into effect at 11:59 p.m. Saturday, according to the county's health officer, Dr. Muntu Davis.

Some exceptions will apply, Davis said, but the order will be similar to the requirements that were in place prior to California's June 15 reopening.

"We're not where we need to be for the millions at risk of infection here in Los Angeles County, and waiting to do something will be too late given what we're seeing now," Davis told reporters Thursday.



Read more: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-15/l-a-county-will-require-masks-indoors-amid-covid-19-surge



what are places (if any) will reimpose them? LA did it without any federal or state recommendations, will other places now have the balls to reimpose them?

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Reply L.A. County will require masks indoors amid alarming rise in coronavirus cases (Original post)
pstokely Jul 2021 OP
LisaL Jul 2021 #1
FarPoint Jul 2021 #2
LisaL Jul 2021 #3
FarPoint Jul 2021 #14
Initech Jul 2021 #4
BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #5
LisaL Jul 2021 #8
ripcord Jul 2021 #13
mrsadm Jul 2021 #31
BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #32
IronLionZion Jul 2021 #6
pstokely Jul 2021 #9
LisaL Jul 2021 #10
pstokely Jul 2021 #11
LisaL Jul 2021 #12
BootinUp Jul 2021 #7
barbtries Jul 2021 #15
iluvtennis Jul 2021 #16
Yavin4 Jul 2021 #17
pstokely Jul 2021 #18
Yavin4 Jul 2021 #19
LisaL Jul 2021 #20
Yavin4 Jul 2021 #22
LisaL Jul 2021 #25
pstokely Jul 2021 #28
chowder66 Jul 2021 #30
somaticexperiencing Jul 2021 #21
Yavin4 Jul 2021 #23
LisaL Jul 2021 #27
chowder66 Jul 2021 #29
Yavin4 Jul 2021 #33
chowder66 Jul 2021 #34
Yavin4 Jul 2021 #35
C Moon Jul 2021 #24
Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #26
lark Jul 2021 #36

Response to pstokely (Original post)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:20 PM

1. My guess is red states won't reinstate the mask mandates regardless of how

high their covid cases go. If covid goes high in some blue states, we might see mask mandates reinstated there.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:22 PM

2. The problem is that the political anti-vaxxer's also won't wear a mask....

I seriously doubt that the red states, with vas numbers of anti-vaxxers not wearing mask... they will ot shut down...I predict low vaccination states will have a huge soar in covid deaths from the Delta variant by the end of September...

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:30 PM

3. That much was obvious from the start.

Anti-masker won't wear a mask unless he or she is made to wear a mask.
"Honor" system doesn't work.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:19 PM

14. Correct....

The anti-vaxxer tRumpsters have a completely different agenda/mission at hand....they are cult mentality and risk all of our lives...they refuse to even listen and process any information and make an informed decision...They are lock step minions from the right wing....

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Response to pstokely (Original post)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:33 PM

4. Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Ugh, how much longer are we going to have to deal with this shit?

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Response to Initech (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:45 PM

5. Until all the GQP morons get vaccinated or sick with Covid.

The problem is that many who don't get vaxxed don't really care if this happens to them. I just read an article about their attitude here on DU.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:55 PM

8. Anti maskers are also not going to wear masks until somebody makes them.

Thinking non vaccinated will were masks on an "honor system" was extremely na´ve (to put it nicely).

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:18 PM

13. Anti vaxxers are necessary

Even flat earther's need someone to laugh at.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:13 PM

31. I would like to read your articles

Please share link if you can, thanks

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Response to mrsadm (Reply #31)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:18 PM

32. It'll take me forever to find it

since I read DU for my news and do not use other sites. It could also have been in the comments or replies to a post. It stuck in my mind though since I hadn't really considered that someone would not care if they themselves actually get very sick.

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Response to pstokely (Original post)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:55 PM

6. Blue cities in blue states with high community spread

It's harder for blue cities in red states, like Missouri, Texas, Florida, etc. who need it but face resistance at the state level.

Individual businesses can impose them but won't have much luck on enforcement and are guaranteed to face resistance. That's the case here in the bluest of blue, DC, where different businesses on the same block will have wildly different guidelines. I avoid restaurants with lots of people indoors unmasked. I still mask in elevators and common areas even if I'm the only one and people make snide comments about living in fear vs living in freedom.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:58 PM

9. and LA has fairly high vax rate

other places want to focus on vaccines instead of mask enforcement, will LA County be able to enforce this>

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Response to pstokely (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:01 PM

10. The reason they are doing it -their covid cases are rapidly increasing, despite

high vaccination rate.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:09 PM

11. but what about other places?

I don't expect it any or red states but what about cities in blue states

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Response to pstokely (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:10 PM

12. They will have to live (or die) with a lot of covid spreading around.

NT

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Response to pstokely (Original post)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:55 PM

7. I think earlier tough decisions are better in pandemics nt

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Response to pstokely (Original post)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:48 PM

15. i'm going there next month.

LA is home and I haven't been there since Nov2019. My son, my grandsons, my daughter's grave...I'll need to check the protocols because my trip is for 8 days, so I cannot quarantine upon arrival.

sucks. this vicious virus. i won't even mention the millions of covidiots who make life that much harder for everyone else with their selfishness.

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Response to pstokely (Original post)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:52 PM

16. It's the right thing to do, given the increased spread. n/ t

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Response to pstokely (Original post)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:59 PM

17. If they can mandate masks, why not mandate the vaccines?

Get everyone in LA county vaccinated first, and then bring back the mask mandates. A fully vaccinated person forced to wear a mask is not going to do a damn thing to stop the spread of the virus. NOTHING.

This is all theater, nothing else.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:10 PM

18. it's politically easier to do this in a solid blue county in a solid blue state

but how was enforcement done before and how will it be done now? In other places the public health community is focusing more on increasing vaccinations rather than mask enforcement although some have put out mask advisories rather than mandates, could it this give other places the balls to reimpose mask mandates?

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Response to pstokely (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:24 PM

19. Please explain to me how mask mandates in largely vaccinated populations is going to stop the spread

How is this going to motivate anyone to get vaccinated? What L.A. county is doing is dumb.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:26 PM

20. After CDC said we didn't need masks, what did that get us?

Covid cases are going up all over US. Did that motivate people to get vaccinated? I don't think so.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:58 PM

22. They're not "going up all over". They're going up primarily among the unvaccinated.

Also, positive cases is not the metric that we should be focusing on. It's negative outcomes, hospitalizations and deaths, that we should be focusing on.

The only way to end this would be to mandate the vaccines. Period. Full stop.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:26 PM

25. Once cases go up, hospitalization and deaths will follow.

And cases are going up all over US.

"The COVID-19 curve in the U.S. is rising again after months of decline, with the number of new cases per day doubling over the past three weeks, driven by the fast-spreading delta variant, lagging vaccination rates and Fourth of July gatherings."

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-us-cases-rising-03150d6404004711b80e9bd6ff0d410d

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:32 PM

28. what are the rates of those in LA County?

nt

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:09 PM

30. There are tons of tourists and people outside of LA County that come here.

Masking and distancing helped control our numbers as much as the could. Vaccinations help even more.

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Response to pstokely (Original post)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:26 PM

21. Don't mind wearing a mask and don't really see why it's such a painful experience, compared with

some alternatives especially.

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Response to somaticexperiencing (Reply #21)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:11 PM

23. I do mind wearing a mask.

I cannot work out in my gym with one on. I cannot go out to eat in a restaurant or have a drink in a bar. It's uncomfortable to me over long periods of time.

I'm fully vaccinated, and making me wear one does absolutely nothing to stop the spread.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:30 PM

27. Vaccinated people can still get infected and spread it around.

Especially with delta covid.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:06 PM

29. I can't go without a mask because I'm immunocompromised.

I can't go eat out, I can't go to a gym, I'm also uncomfortable... but I have to do it and I don't mind protecting those around me.

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #29)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:24 PM

33. Your condition would also be true for influenza

But there were no mask requirements for the flu.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #33)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:05 PM

34. The flu doesn't typically ravage the body the way this virus does.

There are also children and others on immunosuppressive drugs that are not allowed to get vaccinated yet.
Oh and older adults. But I guess none of those count toward your consideration.

Your compassion for others is noted.



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Response to chowder66 (Reply #34)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:43 PM

35. Masks are not some magical device that protects you from viruses.

South Korea has some of the most stringent mask requirements in the world, and their covid cases are soaring. Same is true for Australia which has frequent lockdowns and strict mask guidelines as well.

Do you want to know what those countries have in common? Sluggish vaccine rollouts.

So, to end this conversation, I am for the one solution that would save lives, including the lives of the immunocompromised, which is mandating the vaccine, not mandating masks which are not as effective as the vaccine.

But in the end, your virtue signaling and feelings of moral superiority are more important than actually solving the problem.

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Response to pstokely (Original post)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:22 PM

24. The GOP obviously wants this virus to survive: they don't want President Biden being successful.

That's why so many of them are pushing not to vaccinate (in so many words).

Same goes in California: Governor Newsom is now up for a recall election, and the GOP trash is wringing its little hands with this news.
This is what they wanted all along.

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Response to C Moon (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:29 PM

26. As fucked up as that sounds, I think you are correct. I really hate these "people." Didn't have to

be in this place.

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Response to pstokely (Original post)

Fri Jul 16, 2021, 08:00 AM

36. Death Sentence wants Floridians to get sick so the rich can make more money.

He doesn't care if millions of us die from the virus, long as no business can ask about your vaccination status. He and his rich friends are all vaccinated, although they won't tell us that for the most part, and he thinks of the rest of us as just funding sources for the billionires. I really hope people stay away and refuse to cruise from here or come to Disney World for vacations.

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