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Historic NY

(37,975 posts)
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:22 AM Jul 2021

Pope Francis to Undergo Colon Surgery

Source: new york times

The Vatican announced on Sunday that Pope Francis had been admitted to a hospital in Rome for colon surgery.

Matteo Bruni, a Vatican spokesman, said in a statement that Francis, 84, had been taken to the Gemelli hospital in the Italian capital. Mr. Bruni said the “scheduled surgery” would take place later on Sunday, and noted that a medical bulletin would be issued afterward. He said that the pope had “symptomatic diverticular stenosis of the colon.”

The surgery would be performed by Dr. Sergio Alfieri, who heads the hospital’s complex operational unit for digestive surgery, the Vatican said.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/04/world/europe/pope-francis-surgery.html



I feel sorry for him, I've been plagued with the disease since my early 20's. I've had Multiple hospitalizations over the years, fortunately medications, iv's and bed rest can get it under control. When active, it can be excruciatingly painful. I had a reminder this past week, stay away from roughage (salads).
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Mawspam2

(855 posts)
2. Wait, why isn't GOD saving the most devout...
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:32 AM
Jul 2021

...man in the world? Choosing science over GOD? Guess he's not a true believer after all.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
9. Except when it comes to LGBTQ people...and abortion.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:43 PM
Jul 2021

While he talks a good, vague talk about us, his solution is still to advise the clergy to "minister" us out of our sin.

Regarding abortion, there's ample evidence that there is nobody home inside the human brain until somewhat near birth. The organized connectivity simply isn't there yet.

sarisataka

(21,221 posts)
4. So are you suggesting he should not see a doctor
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:51 PM
Jul 2021

And simply pray to be cured?

I suspect that would be ridiculed as well

drray23

(7,997 posts)
5. the catholic church does believe in science.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:52 PM
Jul 2021

they have been sponsoring it for hundreds of years despite unfortunate events like Galileo which they later said was a mistake. Genetics for example was pioneered by Mendel who was a Friar and Abbot with full support of the church.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
10. Only when it becomes inconvenient for them, though, and after lives are ruined.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:45 PM
Jul 2021

Also one does not "believe" in science, one accepts the findings and established facts unless they are disproven by something proven to be more likely true.

drray23

(7,997 posts)
11. don't lecture me on that.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:48 PM
Jul 2021

I am a scientist ( Physicist) and I am using the colloquial expression about "believing" in science. Obviously it's about facts not beliefs.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
12. As a scientist then, you should know better than to blur those lines when speaking in public.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:49 PM
Jul 2021

...in my opinion.

milestogo

(18,079 posts)
6. Clearly you know very little about the current pope or even about religion
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jul 2021

When delving into unfamiliar areas, its best not to say anything,

XanaDUer2

(14,345 posts)
7. he believes in
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jul 2021

science. The RC church does have aspects of faith healing a la visiting shrines like Lourdes, and Padre Pio.

But Catholics visit doctors. Hell, I was taught evolution in Catholic school Edit: the pontifical academy of sciences is in the Vatican.

XanaDUer2

(14,345 posts)
14. It says he may have
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:55 PM
Jul 2021

if someone is mentally ill, and believes they're possessed, praying over them may help them. There's not enough info to tell from the article if it's an exorcism going on.

But the main point of my post is that Catholics see doctors and are not anti-science.

Politicub

(12,289 posts)
8. For all of its issues, at least the church does not pit science against religion.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:47 PM
Jul 2021

There are many criticisms that I have with the church, but that’s not one of them.

A comparative religions class would be good for you. I think you would find it interesting.

CBHagman

(17,149 posts)
18. I'm sorry you have been going through the same problem.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:58 PM
Jul 2021

I hope researchers can find more ways to control the condition.

As for the Holy Father, it sounds as though his procedure went well.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pope-francis-hospital-scheduled-surgery-colon-2021-07-04/

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