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Sun Jun 13, 2021, 02:27 PM

Lara Trump: Americans Living Along Border "Better Arm Up and Get Guns and Be Ready"

Source: Slate

Lara Trump, the daughter-in-law of former President Donald Trump, said that Americans who are living along the southern border need to take their security into their own hands by obtaining firearms and be ready to shoot them....in her appearance on Fox News’ Justice With Judge Jeanine.

“I guess they better arm up and get guns and be ready, and maybe they’re going to have to start taking matters into their own hands. "

Read more: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/lara-trump-along-border-better-arm-up-get-guns.html



There HAS to be some legal repercussions for fomenting this kind of violence. And Fox is as guilty as that trash-in-law.

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Reply Lara Trump: Americans Living Along Border "Better Arm Up and Get Guns and Be Ready" (Original post)
70sEraVet Jun 13 OP
turbinetree Jun 13 #1
SharonAnn Jun 13 #16
FarPoint Jun 13 #17
Warpy Jun 13 #2
DBoon Jun 13 #6
Mr.Bill Jun 13 #8
Warpy Jun 13 #20
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 13 #3
question everything Jun 13 #4
GB_RN Jun 13 #7
question everything Jun 13 #9
msongs Jun 13 #5
AZLD4Candidate Jun 13 #10
Blue Owl Jun 13 #11
not fooled Jun 13 #12
IcyPeas Jun 13 #13
DallasNE Jun 14 #35
sheilahi Jun 13 #14
LogicFirst Jun 13 #15
CountAllVotes Jun 13 #18
Kali Jun 13 #19
Scruffy1 Jun 13 #21
riversedge Jun 13 #22
Noodleboy13 Jun 13 #23
Marthe48 Jun 13 #24
DallasNE Jun 13 #25
Jedi Guy Jun 13 #31
IronLionZion Jun 13 #26
elleng Jun 13 #27
70sEraVet Jun 13 #29
Jedi Guy Jun 13 #32
Evolve Dammit Jun 13 #28
Jedi Guy Jun 13 #33
Evolve Dammit Jun 14 #37
Jedi Guy Jun 14 #38
orangecrush Jun 13 #30
Jedi Guy Jun 13 #34
orangecrush Jun 15 #40
Jedi Guy Jun 15 #41
Rhiannon12866 Jun 16 #43
The Jungle 1 Jun 14 #36
eringer Jun 14 #39
Rhiannon12866 Jun 16 #42
orangecrush Jun 16 #44

Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 02:35 PM

1. There is this law.........to Lock this and that other POS up .....and whats really classic

she is suppose to be some kind of former judge......

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 04:19 PM

16. Let her go first and show us how it's done!

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 04:22 PM

17. Marvelous idea...

She can show true leadership...

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 02:37 PM

2. Most people who cross here, legally or illegally

commit the heinous crimes of working, paying taxes, and raising their families.

Doesn't give that carpetbagging parasite Lara much room to talk.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:10 PM

6. meaning illegal immigrants all contribute more to society than any Trump

Have any Trump done a day of real work in their life (excluding grifting)?

Have they paid any taxes?

Have they actually done the hard work of raising a family properly?

The enemy is in the other direction, Lara

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Response to Warpy (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:19 PM

8. In California,

they tend to work very hard harvesting the crops that provide half the nations food. Wouldn't make much sense to shoot at them.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 04:58 PM

20. Exactly, plus most don't stay here in this state

They're delivered to pickup points on this side of the border to fulfill arrangements the coyotes make with businesses across the country to supply a labor force who will work for shit wages and not dare to complain. The scandal here is human trafficking in horrible conditions, people packed into trucks with no water and no sanitation, driven hundreds of miles. Some don't make it.

We're a sanctuary city in pretty much a sanctuary state, which means La Migra is going to have to do its own damned job.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 02:46 PM

3. Fear, FEAR, and especially Fear of the Other is all RepubliQons have to sell these days


Thinly veiled racism that Lara tRump, a White Person, has some imagined right to murder people who cross a border for a better life.

Plus she married into an immigrant family grand-fathered by a German draft dodger who ran a brothel before entering the US for a better life.

She was born named Yunaska, which originates from Slovakia.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:09 PM

4. What are her chances of becoming a senator?

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Response to question everything (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:15 PM

7. None.

She announced at the state GOPQ convention last week that she’s not running. Even if she did, she has no policy experience, hasn’t lived here in at least a decade and other baggage.

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Response to GB_RN (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:22 PM

9. Thanks, good to know

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:10 PM

5. fortunately for the trumpists millions of latinos vote for trumps and republicans nt

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:25 PM

10. I live on the border. No thank you.

I'm tired of seeing border patrol racing down the roads of the Tohono o'Odham Nation without even attempting to obey simple traffic laws.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:33 PM

11. Or in Lara's case, Gum up and get arms

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:40 PM

12. She has close Secret Service protection

if you know what I mean.

Our tax dollars at work!


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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:42 PM

13. how do they get away with fomenting violence like this?

even after January 6.... they're still doing it. and they know exactly what they're saying.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 14, 2021, 12:12 AM

35. Seent Post #31 Below

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:42 PM

14. shut the fuck up

Nobody's listening Lara. Being married to Eric (cringe, shudder) you lost all traces of credibility.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 04:16 PM

15. Also be ready to go to prison for murder or attempted murder.

Maybe Lara will do your time for you.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 04:25 PM

18. Yes ma'am !!!!

Got my arms UP and I am ready to go.

Now



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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 04:28 PM

19. ugly stupid twit

(ugly person, not appearance)

first of all most anybody that cares is already armed, others are for other reasons. so it is all for show with the drumpf clan.

I STILL can't believe some of my neighbors fell for a New York real estate developer - in the old days that is the type of person that epitomized westerners' contempt of eastern urban elitists. WTF is wrong with people???

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 05:00 PM

21. I happen to live on the border.

There is absolutely nothing happening here except a massive heat wave. All of the border areas of Texas are highly Hispanic and heavily favor the Democratic Party. It's just race baiting. The only problem we have with the border is it's still shut down. I really want to go to see my dentist and eye doctor. A lot of people i know have relatives on the other side and I've met a lot of US retirees who live across the river. On any given normal Sunday before the pandemic many thousands walk across to Mexico and almost as many walk to the USA. On the Mexican side you don't need an ID, but you have to have one to come to the USA. Violence has been pretty close to zero for years. The border patrol has agents every mile and sends planes and helicopters to scan the border in the mornings and evenings. I don't think anybody in the Rio Grande valley worries much about undocumented immigrants hoping to make a better life for themselves.

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Response to Scruffy1 (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 05:53 PM

22. thanks for informative post.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 06:05 PM

23. Whew, For a sec there I thought Canada was gonna invade and shit was bout to get real



peace,
Noodleboy

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 06:19 PM

24. Us vs. them mentality

Another one with no frontal lobe development, who had no regard for the consequences of hateful comments.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 06:44 PM

25. Protected Speech?

We all know the one about you not being able to shout fire in a croweded theatre as the example of speech that is not protected.

With that as the standard, where does Lara Trump's comment fit in - above the bar or below the bar"

“I don’t know what you tell the people that live at the southern border,” Trump proclaimed, “I guess they better arm up and get guns and be ready, and maybe they’re going to have to start taking matters into their own hands".

If it wasn't for the word "maybe" in that statement I would say definitely the statement crosses the line. It takes a lawyer to factor in such nuance - similar to the use of "alleged" in statements. The statement is clearly repugnant. Is it also criminal? I'm torn on that.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 09:48 PM

31. That's actually no longer the test to determine whether or not speech is protected.

That phrase originates from a 1919 SCOTUS case (Schenk v. United States). It was supplanted by the so-called Brandenburg Test from the 1969 SCOTUS case Brandenburg v. Ohio. Proscribed speech as defined by that case is speech that is directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action, such as a riot. The speaker must intend to incite lawless action that is both imminent and likely.

I don't think her comments would fall foul of that test, and so it would be considered protected speech. It's shitty speech, to be sure, but it's protected under the First Amendment.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 07:12 PM

26. Pro-life Republicans are promoting murder

because why? People crossing the border and walking across property don't deserve to live?

If border people see something, just call the border patrol or local law enforcement. Texans already have plenty of guns. Texas and California are where people live along the border. The border is mountainous in Arizona and New Mexico.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 07:26 PM

27. There SHOULD be repercussions.

'Sadly,' Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969), was a landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court interpreting the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.[1] The Court held that the government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action".[2][3]02 Specifically, the Court struck down Ohio's criminal syndicalism statute, because that statute broadly prohibited the mere advocacy of violence. In the process, Whitney v. California (1927)[4] was explicitly overruled, and doubt was cast on Schenck v. United States (1919),[5] Abrams v. United States (1919),[6] Gitlow v. New York (1925),[7] and Dennis v. United States (1951).[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio

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Response to elleng (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 08:15 PM

29. If an individual's inflammatory speech cannot be punished,

can the company that gives that individual a public platform lose its broadcasting license? How about holding that individual and that company LIABLE the next time some Looney opens fire on a brown individual, who may or may NOT be an undocumented immigrant?

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Response to 70sEraVet (Reply #29)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 09:54 PM

32. "...can the company that gives that individual a public platform lose its broadcasting license?"

No, because that would essentially negate the protection of the First Amendment. If it's protected speech, it's protected speech.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 07:27 PM

28. Cuff and stuff. Indict, try, convict. Enough sedition. It has to be addressed. n/t

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #28)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 09:55 PM

33. Alas, your authoritarian impulses are stymied by the First Amendment.

How is what she said "sedition"?

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Response to Jedi Guy (Reply #33)

Mon Jun 14, 2021, 08:54 AM

37. calling for armed violence and taking the law into your own hands

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #37)

Mon Jun 14, 2021, 09:45 AM

38. That isn't sedition. N/T

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 09:35 PM

30. Here we go again



Let's see if anything gets done.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 09:55 PM

34. What would you like to see done in this case? N/T

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Response to Jedi Guy (Reply #34)

Tue Jun 15, 2021, 09:57 PM

40. Not a lawyer



But if there are applicable laws concerning inciting violence, I would like to see them enforced.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #40)

Tue Jun 15, 2021, 10:05 PM

41. I'm also not a lawyer, nor am I a constitutional scholar.

What she said wouldn't, in my opinion, fall into the exceptions to the First Amendment, which are very narrow. This is protected speech under the current interpretation of the amendment. She can (and should) be called out for having shitty opinions, but the government can't take legal action against her for what she said.

I know that some here on DU are frustrated that the First Amendment protects speech like this, in addition to "hate speech." All things considered, though, it's a good thing that we have freedom of expression, even if it gives shitweasels like the Trumps the opportunity to say reprehensible things.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #40)

Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:27 AM

43. Here - this has gotten attention:

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Mon Jun 14, 2021, 08:49 AM

36. She is saying her father is a failure.

Wait we already knew that.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Mon Jun 14, 2021, 12:27 PM

39. The Sky is Falling.

I "guess"/"maybe" she makes me sick. Wait, No guessing or maybes -- she does make me sick.
Even the racists from the pervious generation that have now passed on wouldn't buy this BS.
As my grandfather use to say, "free schools , dumb children."

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:25 AM

42. Followup: Lara Trump Could Be In Serious Trouble For Comments Telling Border Residents To 'Arm Up'



During an appearance on Fox News this past weekend, Lara Trump, the wife of Eric, suggested that people living along the southern border needed to "arm up and get guns" in order to fight back against migrants crossing the border. In addition to this being incredibly irresponsible and dangerous rhetoric, experts also say that it could possibly lead to criminal charges for inciting violence. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains what's happening.


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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #42)

Wed Jun 16, 2021, 07:39 PM

44. Thank you!





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