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Fri Jun 11, 2021, 10:58 PM

Revealed: rightwing firm posed as leftist group on Facebook to divide Democrats

Source: The Guardian

A digital marketing firm closely linked to the pro-Trump youth group Turning Point USA was responsible for a series of deceptive Facebook ads promoting Green party candidates during the 2018 US midterm elections, the Guardian can reveal.

In an apparent attempt to split the Democratic vote in a number of close races, the ads purported to come from an organization called America Progress Now (APN) and used socialist memes and rhetoric to urge leftwing voters to support Green party candidates.

Facebook was aware of the true identity of the advertiser – the conservative marketing firm Rally Forge – and the deceptive nature of the ads, documents seen by the Guardian show, but the company determined that they did not violate its policies.

Rally Forge would go on to set up a pro-Trump domestic “troll farm” for Turning Point Action, a “sister” organization of Turning Point USA, in 2020, earning a permanent ban from Facebook.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jun/11/facebook-ads-turning-point-usa-rally-forge

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Reply Revealed: rightwing firm posed as leftist group on Facebook to divide Democrats (Original post)
Galraedia Jun 11 OP
Mz Pip Jun 11 #1
blm Jun 11 #2
Beartracks Jun 11 #3
not fooled Jun 12 #13
Beartracks Jun 12 #14
reACTIONary Jun 12 #17
Hortensis Jun 13 #25
PSPS Jun 12 #4
Ford_Prefect Jun 12 #5
Initech Jun 12 #6
pnwmom Jun 12 #7
SergeStorms Jun 12 #8
KPN Jun 12 #9
YoshidaYui Jun 12 #10
elleng Jun 12 #11
Lonestarblue Jun 12 #15
ancianita Jun 12 #16
elleng Jun 13 #19
Sunlei Jun 13 #20
The Unmitigated Gall Jun 12 #12
Takket Jun 12 #18
Crowman2009 Jun 13 #21
Marthe48 Jun 13 #22
Kid Berwyn Jun 13 #23
BlueWavePsych Jun 13 #24

Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:17 PM

1. Geez

People are just too damn gullible. I can’t imagine deciding on who to vote for based on some meme and posts I see on Facebook. Yeah, I know they’re slick and deceptive but making decisions based on info found on social media is an accident waiting to happen.

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:36 PM

2. ✔️

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:54 PM

3. I think some of them have already happened.




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Response to Beartracks (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 03:45 AM

13. Like

red don.

I was going to post a picture, but ewwwwwwww. Enough already. Spare DU.

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Response to not fooled (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 05:27 AM

14. We appreciate your discretion on that.

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 10:04 PM

17. Most people wouldn't and don't...

... I have read that the effect of such advertising is virtually nill. It actually is a worthless waste of money.

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:42 AM

25. Russia and RW power blocs supported the LW populist movement

to splinter off Democratic support in 2016 with enormous success that shook the world. It's still shaking. Much bigger power groups, of course, but very little investment.

Of course, when they tried again in 2020, it was with much less impact. More people were more aware of what had happened in the disaster of 2016 and the LW popuist candidate declined to cooperate and tamped way down on the hostile and dishonest tactics that inflame populist followings.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 12:04 AM

4. "Facebook was aware ... but the company determined that they did not violate its policies."

Facebook was aware of the true identity of the advertiser – the conservative marketing firm Rally Forge – and the deceptive nature of the ads, documents seen by the Guardian show, but the company determined that they did not violate its policies.

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Response to PSPS (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 12:30 AM

5. Time for a bit of Corporate citizenship don't you think?

If not perhaps a finding of negligence with malice?

It seems to me the 2 outfits in question are due for some time in front of a grand jury, not to mention fessing up on who's paying them and who's pulling the strings on this.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 12:33 AM

6. Fucking assholes.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 12:33 AM

7. I think some of them were posting here. n/t

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 01:21 AM

8. Facebook will be....

the downfall of our society, and quite possibly democracy itself. Their algorithms know who to target with this malicious, deceptive propaganda, and Facebook knowingly aids and abets these charlatans for money.
If I could write a program that would blow Facebook off the fucking face of the earth, I would.

I hate that stinking, malicious platform with the energy of a dozen suns. Why anyone continues to use it, I'll never know. Americans, in general, are fucking idiots. That's why the competition wins.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 01:28 AM

9. The f'ing right wing is so damned Machiavellian meanwhile

we run around trying to promote and do good.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 02:49 AM

10. It really feels like we are at war with

The Republican party... how do we win?

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Response to YoshidaYui (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 03:11 AM

11. Yes, we are.

Some among us had better come up with strategies.

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Response to elleng (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 09:22 AM

15. Much of the media is on the Republicans' side, including Facebook.

With Facebook, Zuckerberg knows that Republicans will lower taxes at every opportunity and they will refuse to regulate because they don’t actually care what happens to the American people. They care only about their wealthy donors. I don’t know how we fight that in the short term. Longer term, I have hopes that younger people are more media savvy and not as gullible. In the meantime, we vote. But like you, I’m frustrated at the condition of the country and the direction Republicans are trying to take us.

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Response to elleng (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 06:14 PM

16. Some among us are. And Americans are generally aware of them, imo.

1. Government-reform experts say that with control of the House and a slim Democratic majority in the Senate, the Democratic leadership on Capitol Hill should vote on legislation like H.R. 1, the sweeping package of voting-rights protections, campaign-money transparency, and anti-corruption provisions that House Democrats approved in the last Congress. Norm Eisen, who served as Obama’s White House ethics czar, says Biden should immediately sign an executive order that would drastically limit, if not ban, special-interest lobbyists from serving in the Biden administration.

2. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) offers a three-pronged strategy to fight this war.
First, re-establish the independence of the Justice Department. That's being done.
Second, root out possible Trump-era corruption in federal agencies like the EPA or the Commerce Department, Whitehouse says Congress should launch a special legislative committee that could function unrestrained by the typical committee jurisdiction lines to offer support for people who want to come out of the woodwork and say, ‘Hey, here’s a file that I kept or a story that you need to hear.’” Then refer the info to the Biden White House for cleaning house.
Third, President Biden should set up a commission made up of experts to investigate the fossil-fuel industry’s decades-long campaign to undermine climate science and block ambitious action to fight climate change. Haven't heard if that's being done.

3. Get those coattails out. In 2020 the party offered an off-ramp for independents and Republicans to abandon Trump and vote for Biden. It was a choice that maximized the chances Trump would lose but, as you might expect, offered little in the way of support for the rest of the Democratic ticket. In 2022, Joe Biden will have coattails.

The party needs to put its weight behind Biden's “moral capitalism” — the stuff that combines Sanders and Warren's programs. Legalized weed has been big. The polls show Americans are already with them on that, and they won in the ruby-red Republican states of South Dakota, Mississippi, and Montana. Polls have already shown that this government's doing something for them and their wallets. That strategy has worked.

Big supporters like Fetterman promote legal weed as an economic issue (regulating and taxing it could provide much-needed revenue for states), a racial-justice issue (ending the failed War on Drugs and the discriminatory policies that imprisoned tens of thousands of black and brown people), and a veteran issue (marijuana is seen as a much safer option for vets with chronic pain and PTSD). We're winning that battle.

4. Two more reconciliation bills will probably pass. More wins.

Because of the 60-vote supermajority in the U.S. Senate, Democrats can show up the “90 issues” — that have nearly unanimous support among the general public and the Democratic Party. "IF PASSED" is the biggest hurdle, so these can be in reconciliation bills:
-- capping interest rates on payday loans (instead of blanket student-debt cancellation),
-- Medicaid expansion (instead of Medicare for All),
-- expanding the child tax credit (instead of universal child care), and
-- free two-year public college (as opposed to free college, period)
These get media interest, which helps voters see Democrats creating positive change, and support even broader expansion of government in their lives.

5. Organize for 2022 war. Mobilize for midterms like the presidential race.
Mobilize for the presidential like the apocalypse.” Add fear of a Nazi planet.

More than 12 months out, ramp up organizing and turnout machine in the suburbs and college educated for the midterms and next presidential run. Build a local voter base to withstand a Category 5 hurricane because we'll get one. Do what Cornell Belcher advises, and divert chunks of those hundreds of millions of dollars normally reserved for Super PACs, the DNC itself, into state parties and grassroots groups in battleground states -- Georgia, Arizona, Nevada AND Texas.
Amanda Litman of Run for Something, says nothing less than a revival of Howard Dean's 50-state DNC strategy must get done. Biden's next DNC chair should invest in that. Ohio's not the future, according to Belcher.

Organizers and political candidates say year-round organizing is the best shot for Democrats to win back swaths of rural America and not cede the middle of the country to the GOP. When Republicans have the built-in support of local chambers of commerce, farm bureaus, churches, and, of course, conservative TV and talk radio, Democrats have to smash the Fox News caricature of Democrats.

SO, as Rachel Bitecofer says, Democrats have to stay equally as outraged as Fox voters over the next two years if they don't want to be hammered in the midterms.

These aren't all the strategizing there is, but they're some of what I've read.

We might feel down right now but we're far from out. We know the war now.




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Response to ancianita (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:14 AM

19. Thanks. I'm with Senator Whitehouse, and Rachel Bitecofer.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 04:40 AM

20. ancianita- post of the year 'plus a gazillion'

Thank the gods D team has the strategizing power of those you named and others unnamed but just as onboard backing the D team.

Midterms as both Rs and Ds know full well are critical. Ds can't afford to lose a single chair and must make gains. If Ds don't turn out in midterms all we'll see are years of Rblocked bills and little positive change.

It's been more then a year, had to logon to 'thumbs up' your post.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 03:42 AM

12. "Turning Point USA"...

...turning right into shit-weasel treason fascist scumbaggery.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 11:53 PM

18. mind you if i posted on facebook pretending to be some person i wasn't, i would be banned

but you can pretend to be an entire political group and that doesn't violate policies?

bullshit, facebook

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 09:17 AM

21. Kristen Sinema was a Green party candidate.

Makes me wonder if she switched to the Democratic party just to screw everything up.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 09:51 AM

22. I use Fluffbusting Purity on FB

It is a free ext which eliminates the ads most people see. I have used it for years, and have had no trouble. When I open Facebook, I see my groups on the left side of the screen, my newsfeed in the middle, and a list of my friends who are active. I rec. this app. unless you are a watchdog who must see the constant bombardment of crud. In the past, if I told people on Facebook about this ext. Facebook wouldn't publish my post. I'd get an error message that something went wrong.

Also, I avoid friending anyone I don't really know, even if they have a mutual friend or 2. One of my library friends sent this quiz last fall, and I often look at peoples' pages even if I know I'm not friending them. It is surprising too, that if I ask the mutual friend if they know that person, they often don't, just accepted a friend request.

Here is a link to the quiz:
https://spotthetroll.org/start

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 10:35 AM

23. Repugs play NAZI.

Democrats play fair and square.

Hmm. What’s gonna happen?

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:29 AM

24. Kick

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