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Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:18 PM

Florida bans 'critical race theory' from its classrooms

Source: Associated Press



FILE - In this April 30, 2021, file photo surrounded by lawmakers, Florida Gov.
Ron DeSantis speaks at the end of a legislative session at the Capitol in
Tallahassee, Fla. Now that the pandemic appears to be waning and DeSantis is
heading into his reelection campaign next year, he has emerged from the
political uncertainty as one of the most prominent Republican governors and
an early White House front-runner in 2024 among Donald Trump's acolytes, if
the former president doesn't run again.
(AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee, File) | Photo: AP

By BOBBY CAINA CALVAN
Updated: June 10, 2021 01:00 PM
Created: June 10, 2021 11:24 AM

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Florida's state Board of Education banned "critical race theory" from public school classrooms Thursday, adopting new rules it said would shield schoolchildren from curricula that could "distort historical events."

Florida's move was widely expected as a national debate intensifies about how race should be used as a lens in classrooms to examine the country's tumultuous history.

Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis appeared by video at the top of the board's meeting, urging its members, many of whom he appointed, to adopt the new measures he asserted would serve students with the facts rather than "trying to indoctrinate them with ideology."

The Black Lives Matter movement has helped bring contentious discussions about race to the forefront of American discourse, and classrooms have become a battleground. Supporters contend that federal law has preserved the unequal treatment of people on the basis of race and that the country was founded on the theft of land and labor.

Read more: https://www.kob.com/national-news/florida-bans-critical-race-theory-from-its-classrooms/6136940/?cat=641

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Reply Florida bans 'critical race theory' from its classrooms (Original post)
Judi Lynn Jun 10 OP
walkingman Jun 10 #1
eShirl Jun 10 #2
Lovie777 Jun 10 #3
Hugh_Lebowski Jun 10 #4
Mawspam2 Jun 10 #5
Chainfire Jun 10 #6
modrepub Jun 10 #7
Paladin Jun 10 #8
Botany Jun 10 #9
groundloop Jun 10 #17
AZLD4Candidate Jun 10 #10
hollygolively Jun 10 #11
kimbutgar Jun 10 #16
sinkingfeeling Jun 10 #12
Judi Lynn Jun 11 #34
DBoon Jun 10 #13
barbtries Jun 10 #14
kimbutgar Jun 10 #15
ashredux Jun 10 #18
Jon King Jun 10 #19
greenman3610 Jun 10 #20
slightlv Jun 10 #23
maxsolomon Jun 10 #30
Mosby Jun 11 #32
maxsolomon Jun 11 #35
Mosby Jun 11 #36
Politicub Jun 12 #42
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:19 PM

1. That is what you get when people elect these nasty bastards. They are disgusting.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:20 PM

2. ignorant people passing laws to perpetuate ignorance

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:23 PM

3. Not gonna stop the discussion and knowledge at all. It will be taught in many cases at home. . . .

in Florida. Desantis like many of his effed up partner republicans can pound sand. Just a reminder in the USA "Black History", It was against the law for Blacks to learn how to read, but alas that was overcome too.

Eff this bullshit.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:29 PM

4. Some blue state should ban teaching kids that the 2A was meant to arm people against the government

For one reason because ... it actually wasn't.

For another it'll piss the gun humpers off to no end.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:32 PM

5. I can hardly wait...

...for the book burning. Should be fun.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:32 PM

6. DeSantis would love to deny that black folks really exist. But if they do,

they are of no consequence to our lily white history as a nation.

The Fascist are gaining ground on us. We better figure out how to deal with them before they deal with us.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:33 PM

7. Politicians Know Everything

On science, they've put road blocks up against evolution and climate change. On health, they've opposed steps to prevent the spread of COVID 19. Now they know all about history.

Sorry folks, you can't dismiss gravity because you pass a law outlawing it. People can still read and discuss all of this and make up their own minds. If you constantly lie to them, they'll eventually figure it out and totally mock you. Just like those in the Soviet Union knew their "worker's paradise" was total bullish-t.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:33 PM

8. Thus making "critical race theory" more enticingly popular than ever.

Over here, kids! Read all about it! This is what the Governor and all his goons want to keep from you!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:36 PM

9. History, it just never happened. Just like 1/6/21.









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Response to Botany (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:20 PM

17. Black people taking a cruise, and a black family enjoying a picnic.

Last edited Thu Jun 10, 2021, 08:27 PM - Edit history (1)

(Of course this is )

I'm sick of right wingers attempts to deny history every time it makes them feel uncomfortable.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:42 PM

10. I smell a test case and a lawsuit, as well as an injunction

We're back to the Scopes Monkey Laws.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:48 PM

11. Evolution was banned back in the day

I believe most of us are aware of the Scopes "Monkey Trial." Science lost in that case.

It was a short-term victory for ignorance.

Those of us who believe in science over mythology will win out in the long term.

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Response to hollygolively (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:19 PM

16. I watched inherit the wind about the scopes trial on TCM recently

The same idiots who were against evolution for religious bs. The same nuts yesterday and today.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 05:25 PM

12. I see stupid people in that picture.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:09 PM

34. My instant impression, also. Abnormally stupid Republicans. Hate their cheesey smirks.

It's the unbearable smirk which reveals the smirker reveals he's gloating, believing he's put one over on the human beings. Idiots feeling superior!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 05:40 PM

13. This is the best way to get kids interested in critical race theory

Tell them it is banned knowledge that the governor of the state wants to keep away from them.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 05:56 PM

14. but creationism is hunky dory eh?

books that claim that slaves "immigrated" from Africa? That their lives were good? All that's okay right?

JFC I am sick of republicans.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:18 PM

15. Critical race theory, cancel culture and woke

Just bs talking points to trigger the idiots that watch Fox.

I remember learning about the civil war and slavery in the 1960’s in grade school. It wasn’t until college that I learned more in-depth about the racism in this country.

Ironically when you do a ban on teaching something it only makes kids more curious to learn about it. Raising awareness will come back to bite DeSatan and these other right wing idiots in the ass.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:28 PM

18. This is simple... call it AMERICAN HISTORY!!!

It is HISTORY!!!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:33 PM

19. Most of the white kids we know down here go to private school...

So at public schools, lots of minorities, they can't teach race theory.....but at private schools, lots of whites, they can.

Not sure Desantis has ever had a clear thought in his life.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:37 PM

20. "Critical Race Theory" and "Defund the Police" are examples of fine sentiments

crippled by shitty messaging.

You can be right on the facts all day long but, if you have to explain what it is, you're losing.
We have to do better.

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Response to greenman3610 (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 07:42 PM

23. I agree with you, but...

it's easy to make a bumper sticker when everything is black and white (not meant to be a pun).

It's harder to teach the shades of grey which is the world in which we really live. Harder to get the message across on a bumper sticker. And unfortunately, that's all the attention span these RWNJ's have.

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Response to greenman3610 (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:57 PM

30. What is the "message" of CRT?

It's an academic term used in university-level history studies. It wasn't invented to be a "message". the term is over 40 fucking years old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory

The RW have turned it into an issue so they can rile up their dumb voters. Now it's easy to explain: it means "Black People think they're better'n me".

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #30)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:39 AM

32. Interesting article at your link

https://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/bclr/vol40/iss3/6/

Critical race theorists attack the very foundations of the liberal legal order, including equality theory,' legal reasoning, 5 Enlightenment rationalism' and neutral principles of constitutional law.' These liberal
values, they allege, have no enduring basis in principle, but are mere social constructs calculated to legitimate white supremacy. 8 The rule of law, according to critical race theorists, is a false promise of principled government, and they have lost patience with false promises.' For them, the practice of law is just another front in the fight to achieve racial "liberation." 10 The "race-crits," as they call themselves,'' identify less with the
egalitarian integrationists who led the non-violent civil rights movement than with the black nationalists of the late 1960s who demanded "black power."' 2 While critical race theorists purport to share the liber-
als' goal of racial and social justice, they view that endeavor not as a matter of principle, but as a matter of simple group interest to be
achieved "by any means necessary." 13 They have no qualms arguing for jury nullification on the basis of racial affinity," hate-speech codes which criminalize bigoted expression'' or group rights doctrines which
would allow victims of historic racism to sue whites as a group for reparations.' 6 The harmful precedents such measures would establish is of little concern to the race-crits—their goal is minority advancement
at all costs.' 7 This Note criticizes CRT as au unprincipled, divisive and ultimately unhelpful attack on the liberal tradition ill America." First, race-crits fail to offer replacements for liberalism's core values.'• Rath-
er, their postmodern rejection of all principles leaves them entirely "critical," while their narrow, interested stance renders them mere advocates within the liberal legal system, not theorists who might offer
better alternatives. 20 Second, despite their undeniable energy, the race-emits are remarkably unhelpful as legal and political advocates within the liberal system.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #32)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:30 PM

35. We'd better ban thinking about it, then!

"Give me a minute, friend. I've never been on trial for my thoughts before."
-Sasha Baron Cohen as Abby Hoffman in Trial of the Chicago 7

99% of GQP quaking in terror at the thought of any of this entering a curriculum couldn't explain it if you held a gun to their heads. Nor can the Propagandists exploiting it to stir up resentments for November 2022.

I can barely explain it, and I understood Schopenhauer. It is ZERO threat to the Liberal Tradition.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #35)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:32 PM

36. Lol, good one.

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Response to greenman3610 (Reply #20)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 03:24 PM

42. Critical theory is a form of scholarship. It is republicans who have taken an academic

concept and turned it into a slogan.

OTOH, I think it's amazing that students are gaining exposure to critical theory before college. Students in states where school discussions of critical race theory are banned will gain exposure to the concept through social media and the news.

Critical theory has endured for as long as it has because it's a useful tool for questioning a system and why it persists. It is something that can't be unwound from scholarship.

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Response to greenman3610 (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 15, 2021, 08:38 AM

47. As others have said, it's an academic term.

I am a professor of history and have been since 2011. The first time I heard about this was when I started a law program. In human rights. In October 2020. Now mind you, I teach about ethnicity and gender, but I don't go down the theory path with undergrads... so even I don't teach CRT. At a major research university.

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Response to greenman3610 (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 15, 2021, 10:26 AM

50. It's like the media likes to put words in Democrats' mouths...

because I've never heard any Democrats actually use that "messaging" yet the media insists you think that.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:55 PM

21. the education system here in FL

has always been horrendous at best but they found a way to make it even worse. They work very hard at keeping people ignorant here.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 07:34 PM

22. We oppose the latest Fox news buzzwords

Cause we're just like you......wink...wink

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 08:28 PM

24. Is Ron DeSantis trying to be the worst governor in history?

Because he's sure getting there!

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Response to Initech (Reply #24)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 08:45 PM

27. It comes natural to him.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 08:34 PM

25. Denialism, another hallmark of the GOP.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 08:42 PM

26. Iowa GQP legislature did the same.

And the GQP governor signed the bill.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:08 PM

28. Just wear a cross and go to church for an hour; make it look good. Then screw 'em all

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:50 PM

29. K&R

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 10:36 AM

31. As opposed to 'critical rascist theory' which is what DeSuckass is all about. n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:54 AM

33. Racism is ugly

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 02:32 PM

37. How about teaching the truth in classes?

The Europeans came over and committed genocide against the Native American peoples. Then after we killed most of them, we enslaved Africans to them use them as forced labor instead.

Very easy to tell the truth. The truth is hard to cover up or forget.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 01:29 PM

38. Meanwhile, students can easily read about it on their smart phones.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 01:45 PM

39. "Southern State Bans The Teaching Of Knowledge."

So what else is new?...

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 01:51 PM

40. Not only is this racist

...it's also fascist and Neo-Nazi.

Nazis and fascists forbid the truth from being taught to children.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 02:11 PM

41. SOS. Someone get me out of this state. If only I had the funds! n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:46 AM

43. Racist Ron Boy

has done everything he can to "monkey up"the state of Florida since he's been running it.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sun Jun 13, 2021, 08:30 AM

44. That should go well.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Jun 14, 2021, 07:50 AM

46. The moronic "I know a black person so I'm not racist" racist right has weighed in. But I see they

were shit-canned.

Well done, DU!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jun 15, 2021, 08:42 AM

48. Oh for fucks sake

CRT isn't teaching about racism or teaching people to hate America. It's a very specific term that deconstructs how legal systems are created and designed to disadvantage everyone who's not a white, cis-gender man of middle to upper class status.

I love watching the demolition of the US from within /sarcasm

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jun 15, 2021, 09:40 AM

49. "...serve students with the facts" says the idiot governor. If Floridians

paid any attention to "facts" he would be run out of the state.

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