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Sun May 16, 2021, 04:25 PM

Israel showed US 'smoking gun' on Hamas in AP office tower, officials say

Source: The Jerusalem Post

By LAHAV HARKOV MAY 16, 2021 19:34

Israel shared intelligence with the US showing how Hamas operated inside the same building with the Associated Press and Al-Jazeera in Gaza, officials in Jerusalem said on Sunday.

Officials in more than one government office confirmed that US President Joe Biden’s phone call to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Saturday was, in part, about the bombing of the building, and that Israel showed Biden and American officials the intelligence behind the action.

“We showed them the smoking gun proving Hamas worked out of that building,” a senior diplomatic source said. “I understand they found the explanation satisfactory.”

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed the source’s remark, when asked about The Jerusalem Post’s reporting in an interview with US TV show Face the Nation.

Read more: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/israel-showed-us-smoking-gun-on-hamas-in-ap-office-tower-officials-say-668303

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Reply Israel showed US 'smoking gun' on Hamas in AP office tower, officials say (Original post)
George II May 16 OP
Devil Child May 16 #1
levp May 16 #2
Beakybird May 16 #4
Midnightwalk May 16 #6
Beakybird May 16 #13
Progressive Jones May 17 #28
orangecrush May 17 #29
abqtommy May 16 #3
ripcord May 16 #5
JI7 May 16 #12
5X May 16 #7
AngryOldDem May 16 #9
kysrsoze May 16 #8
TheProle May 17 #33
Midnightwalk May 16 #10
Chainfire May 16 #11
ForgoTheConsequence May 16 #16
Jose Garcia May 17 #32
Chainfire May 18 #40
EX500rider May 18 #42
Steelrolled May 18 #39
oldsoftie May 16 #14
George II May 16 #18
Jedi Guy May 16 #19
EX500rider May 16 #20
Jedi Guy May 16 #21
EX500rider May 16 #22
ForgoTheConsequence May 16 #15
George II May 16 #17
ForgoTheConsequence May 17 #26
ForgoTheConsequence May 17 #35
oldsoftie May 17 #24
ForgoTheConsequence May 17 #27
oldsoftie May 17 #31
ForgoTheConsequence May 17 #34
oldsoftie May 17 #36
oldsoftie May 18 #38
jg10003 May 17 #23
George II May 17 #25
Steelrolled May 18 #41
EX500rider May 18 #43
AZProgressive May 19 #48
jg10003 May 18 #45
orangecrush May 17 #30
Tarc May 17 #37
EX500rider May 18 #44
AZProgressive May 19 #47
AZProgressive May 19 #46

Response to George II (Original post)

Sun May 16, 2021, 04:29 PM

1. Works for me, hope insurers adjust APs rates if they choose to co-locate with Hamas in the future nt

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun May 16, 2021, 04:40 PM

2. As a rule of thumb,

we should always trust foreign intelligence...

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Response to levp (Reply #2)

Sun May 16, 2021, 04:56 PM

4. No, but if Israel says, "Check your own satellite footage

for these coordinates, on this date, at this time," and there are people entering the building with weapons... That's a possibility.
Evidently, the Biden administration was satisfied.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #4)

Sun May 16, 2021, 06:05 PM

6. Was that in the article?

I missed

“ Israel says, "Check your own satellite footage for these coordinates, on this date, at this time," and there are people entering the building with weapons...“

I did find Netanyahu said
“ “The intelligence we had is about an intelligence office for [Hamas] housed in that building that plots and organizes terrorist attacks on Israeli civilians. It is a perfectly legit target.”“

But can’t find your “quote” about entering the building with weapons”. Got a link?

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Response to Midnightwalk (Reply #6)

Sun May 16, 2021, 07:50 PM

13. We don't know what was shared between intelligence agencies.

What I said is plausible speculation. There are numerous ways Israel might have convinced the Biden administration.
Nevertheless, it's pretty clear that Netenyahu is gaming this to stay in power. It will probably work. The evil fucker is very clever

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #13)

Mon May 17, 2021, 10:18 AM

28. No doubt this was planned when Naziyahoo saw he was on his way out. nt

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #28)

Mon May 17, 2021, 10:24 AM

29. Yep.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun May 16, 2021, 04:53 PM

3. You betcha! I believe everything I've ever read here on the internets! ;O) snark off

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun May 16, 2021, 05:16 PM

5. I have no idea if this is true or not

But it is going to look really bad if the press has been sharing office space with Hamas.

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Response to ripcord (Reply #5)

Sun May 16, 2021, 06:56 PM

12. I think they are saying they were in the same building. Not that they shared actual

office space. So they wouldn't always know if they were there.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun May 16, 2021, 06:21 PM

7. "Some people say..."

"Officials in more than one government office confirmed..."
No sources cited.

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Response to 5X (Reply #7)

Sun May 16, 2021, 06:39 PM

9. That's the same as saying "rumor".

Manufacturing or manupulating data isn’t exactly new to intelligence agencies.

This is the excuse Israel always uses.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun May 16, 2021, 06:38 PM

8. Assuming Hamas were there, you don't necessarily have to blow up the building.

Last I checked, there were still many, many buildings where Hamas could hide. I guess the Israeli government should just blow up all of the buildings in Gaza. I'm sure that would fix the problem - at least from Bibi's perspective.

Honestly, I don't trust anything that corrupt shitbag, Netanyahu says.

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Response to kysrsoze (Reply #8)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:29 PM

33. They should shoot Hamas in the leg.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun May 16, 2021, 06:45 PM

10. I would expect Biden to say nothing

Making statements about shared intelligence one way or the other while trying to help negotiations wouldn’t be very diplomatic.

“I understand they found the explanation satisfactory.”


Doesn’t really add anything.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun May 16, 2021, 06:51 PM

11. Bring down that tower was not a military necessity

It was a statement, meant to demonstrate how vulnerable the people are. When our enemies did it to us we called it terrorism.

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Response to Chainfire (Reply #11)

Sun May 16, 2021, 10:07 PM

16. A+

But when it happens to brown people on the other side of the world, it's ok. No doubt some of these supporters of bombing Gaza pretend to support civil rights and BLM in America.

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Response to Chainfire (Reply #11)

Mon May 17, 2021, 11:29 AM

32. Did our enemies warn us and give us time to evacuate the building?

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #32)

Tue May 18, 2021, 08:38 PM

40. It was a message; we can do it to you any time we wish. It is called terrorism.

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Response to Chainfire (Reply #40)

Tue May 18, 2021, 08:57 PM

42. "It is called terrorism."

Firing masses of rockets across the border is terrorism.

Destroying a enemy HQ (after warning the people in the building) is know as warfare.

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Response to Chainfire (Reply #11)

Tue May 18, 2021, 08:34 PM

39. Sort of like the atomic bombs

Might not have been necessary, but the huge psychological impact probably hastened the end of the war.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun May 16, 2021, 08:30 PM

14. And most here who asked for proof will deny this as well

If its a lie, I dont think the President would let it go

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #14)

Sun May 16, 2021, 10:22 PM

18. Exactly. I'm sure there is US intelligence corroboration of Biden was told....

He won't blindly believe what he's told by any other government.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #14)

Sun May 16, 2021, 10:54 PM

19. Israel could lay out all the evidence from A to Z, and people would still refuse to believe it.

It doesn't conform to their worldview, so obviously it's shenanigans on the part of Israel. You mean to tell me that the guys who hide behind women and children also hid behind journalists? That's just crazy talk!

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Response to Jedi Guy (Reply #19)

Sun May 16, 2021, 11:20 PM

20. Hey if you can't trust terrorists groups, who can you trust, right?? lol nt

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #20)

Sun May 16, 2021, 11:26 PM

21. Exactly! Why, I can't even imagine a scenario in which Hamas would lie. N/T

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Response to Jedi Guy (Reply #21)

Sun May 16, 2021, 11:29 PM

22. Except that time their lips were moving....lol nt

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun May 16, 2021, 09:53 PM

15. Jpost is a right wing rag.

Pro-Trump garbage.


Despite Trump's behavior we Israelis must remember who had our back

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/despite-trumps-behavior-we-israelis-must-remember-who-had-our-back-655686


And OP had the nerve to call out someone for posting a Guardian link.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #15)

Sun May 16, 2021, 10:20 PM

17. Not a "right wing rag". Even your own OP ED (NOT an editorial from the publication)....

...notes "DESPITE trump's behavior"!

Apparently President Biden and his administration were satisfied with what he was told, he is certainly not "right wing".

What are you trying to say here?

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Response to George II (Reply #17)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:35 AM

26. It certainly is.

It's been right-wing for well over two decades. Yaakov Katz is a far-right clown.

What am I trying to say? I already said it. The comprehension problem is on your end.


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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #26)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:44 PM

35. Predictable silence.

...

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #15)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:16 AM

24. Shoot the messenger!

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #24)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:36 AM

27. Isn't that what Israel did when they bombed the AP?

Literally. Nice try.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #27)

Mon May 17, 2021, 11:15 AM

31. No, they destroyed an empty BUILDING.

Everyone, even the terrorists, was given an hour to get out.

Proof provided to our government. Wasnt even needed, but sure was nice of them to provide it.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #31)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:43 PM

34. Blinken says yet to see evidence on strike on Gaza tower housing AP, Al Jazeera

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #34)

Mon May 17, 2021, 07:33 PM

36. Read the whole article

He also said he would “leave it to others to characterize if any information has been shared and our assessment (of) that information,"

Pres Biden has not disputed that the topic was covered in their phone call; which Blinken was not on.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #34)

Tue May 18, 2021, 06:19 PM

38. Blinken now says we recieved info from Israel

“We did seek further information from Israel on this question. It’s my understanding that we’ve received some further information through intelligence channels, and that’s not something that I can comment on,”

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 01:03 AM

23. It wouldn't be surprising that Hamas would operate from the same building as AP.

It would fit in with their use of human shields.

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Response to jg10003 (Reply #23)

Mon May 17, 2021, 07:58 AM

25. That's what they do. Then when civilians are killed everyone claims "genocide".

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Response to jg10003 (Reply #23)

Tue May 18, 2021, 08:39 PM

41. I really don't think Hamas uses innocent people as human shields.

We've seen it doesn't seem to deter Israel at all. I think it is more that Hamas has no regard for the lives of their fellow citizens, when choosing where they work, launch rockets, etc.

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #41)

Tue May 18, 2021, 09:00 PM

43. "it is more that Hamas has no regard for the lives of their fellow citizen"

True but more dead Gazans is a PR bonus for them, their fans can cry "War Crime!" while ignoring the actual war crime of indiscriminate rockets fired at civilians in Israel.

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #43)

Wed May 19, 2021, 07:59 AM

48. I don't care who did what first when it comes to a long running war like Israel/Palestine

Israel discrimates against Ethiopian Jews so people can bring up Hamas all they want but it doesn't work on me. BTW who here is a fan of Hamas? That is like a MTG argument.

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #41)

Tue May 18, 2021, 11:30 PM

45. it doesn't deter Israel but it does make a serious PR problem.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 10:27 AM

30. They're telling the world what's going on?



Bomb the shit out of them.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 11:24 PM

37. Fine by me

I am one of the rare DU ducks that supports Israel, though Netanyahu is a deplorable scumbag.

Quackity-quack.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #37)

Tue May 18, 2021, 09:01 PM

44. When it comes to the democracy or the terrorist group I know who I support. quack. nt

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #44)

Wed May 19, 2021, 07:45 AM

47. I support the AP over both governments

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Response to George II (Original post)

Wed May 19, 2021, 07:44 AM

46. This doesn't change anything for me

How do you get an office building in Gaza and who do you have to get from?

Bombing the press is never OK and the reason why they do this is because of information warfare reasons.

It is why Bush bombed Al Jazeera and wanted to bomb them again but Tony Blair talked him out of it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_bombing_memo

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