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This message was self-deleted by its author (Judi Lynn) on Sun May 16, 2021, 12:56 AM. When the original post in a discussion thread is self-deleted, the entire discussion thread is automatically locked so new replies cannot be posted.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat May 15, 2021, 03:07 AM

1. fascism, anyone?

that's a serious WTF

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat May 15, 2021, 07:22 AM

2. One Way Out

Expose the membership.

Iím not advocating anything illegal, but if hackers found a membership list Iíd be curious to know how many police officers near me are members.

Sunshine on Shadows is the only way to end these secret, right-wing organizations.

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Response to Roy Rolling (Reply #2)

Sat May 15, 2021, 07:40 AM

4. This

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat May 15, 2021, 07:28 AM

3. Mark all travel maps to avoid that town.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat May 15, 2021, 09:19 AM

5. NOT an entire county. Just the County government. Article contradicts its headline


(I know: LBN rule to use exact headline)

Modern day writers don't know how to write. Closely linked to unprofessional neglect in thinking things through.

At least one citizen (dissenting vote on the Board) disagreed, so it is not the "entire" county. Duh.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #5)

Sat May 15, 2021, 10:14 AM

6. It's the entire county that's paying. It's the county that's "joining". It was the RWers in charge

that made the decision. The headline is fine.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #6)

Sat May 15, 2021, 11:51 AM

10. So either "county" is different from "entire county" or not.

Combinations of words have different meaning from words alone.

If it is the "entire county" paying, then that is the same as the "county" paying and "entire" is redundant.

On the other hand if "entire county" (all the people) is not the same as the "county" (governmental entity representing the people), then in this context "entire county" is untrue as revealed in the article where at least one citizen is on record opposing it.

"The map is not the territory."

Suppose you reside in an Irish county in the UK and the County elected officials decide to erect a statue park, all of the statues being of Margaret Thatcher. Would you say you supported that? Probably not. So it would not be the entire county supporting it or erecting it. Yes, the entire county tax base would have to pay for it, but some would do so under protest if you asked them, perhaps even yourself.

Or would you be glad to be included in with all the rabid right-wingers (Conservatives)?

Probably not.

Further, the word "Join" in the headline implies that the people who paid ("entire county paid" ) are joining. They are not. The entity that represents them (the "county" ) is joining.

The entity representing the people is not in the same class or level as the entire population represented by the entity. Nor is the tax base the same as the populace or the voting populace. Similarly the map represents the territory but is not the territory.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #10)

Sat May 15, 2021, 12:10 PM

11. You're wrong. I suspect you know it. You are conflating "support", which the headline did not use

with "pay" and "join". The headline does not claim everyone in the county supports it. The county - either all the people in it, or the governing body - get the "benefits" (some marketing bumf, it seems) that a joiner gets, so it's valid to say the "county" or the "entire county" are joining.

The headline writer didn't do a thing wrong. You're misstating things to make it look like they did. Why you feel the need to criticize in minute detail an informative and correct headline, I can't tell.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #11)

Sat May 15, 2021, 12:11 PM

12. It's headline sensationalism that doesn't pan out. The people did not join. Their county did. nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #12)

Sat May 15, 2021, 12:13 PM

13. This exchange is clabby. Goodbye. (nt)

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat May 15, 2021, 10:35 AM

7. Man, I was afraid it might be my county. Nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat May 15, 2021, 11:33 AM

8. another town

for the "Negro Motorist Green Book". First published 1932 to protect African-American motorists from the towns dangerous to all people of color. Relevant today since the revival of white racist thoughts and actions of white supremacy over all other races and cultures. Charlottsville, Virginia 2017 genesis of trump's quote.."fine people" and the renewal of murders of people of color with an open season on blacks mentality I grew up with, in the '50s, in Georgia. And the anti-semitic propaganda also used to justify this bellwether of the open return of racist white racist pride and hate and fear of the Jew. And that white supremacy riot harbinger of the future fight for the soul and direction of all peoples of America living now in a warming blue-red Civil War 2.0. is happening.
https://www.adl.org/blog/two-years-ago-they-marched-in-charlottesville-where-are-they-now

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat May 15, 2021, 11:47 AM

9. It's wrong to force a political stand on an entire community.

Here in NE Ohio a congressman is trying to rename our state park and lake for DJT.

It would be likewise wrong to impose membership to Planned Parenthood or Greenpeace on an entire county or town. Nobody should hate their hometown because of a few.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat May 15, 2021, 01:07 PM

14. Around 10,000 people in my county

I can totally see them trying to do something like this.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #14)

Sat May 15, 2021, 07:15 PM

16. I'm sure

it is coming to towns and counties across the country. Especially in Red Rural ones!!!!!!!!

Yea Haaaa, welcome to the Wild Wild West once again........

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat May 15, 2021, 02:29 PM

15. So if you have this fascists' pin on do you get a get out of jail free pass also....

corruption is still fucking corruption........

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sun May 16, 2021, 01:56 AM

17. Relocated to Editorials: An Entire County Just Paid Thousands to Join a Far-Right Group

Kelly Weill 6 hrs ago

Lander County, Nevada, is shelling out $2,500 for lifetime membership to a controversial, far-right law-enforcement group, The Daily Beast has learned. For their money, residents will get some lapel pins, a plaque, and a big party featuring an alleged participant in the Jan. 6 attack on the United States Capitol.



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A former mining boom community in the Nevada desert, Lander County is the rural home to fewer than 10,000 residents. But after a 4-1 vote by its board of commissioners, itís the first in the nation with a dubious distinction: Lander will become a county-level member of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, a right-wing group that promotes sheriffs as the last bastion of freedom and safety in Joe Bidenís America.

The Lander County manager and the head of the CSPOA both told The Daily Beast on Friday that the county had paid a $2,500 lifetime membership fee to join the group. And on Saturday, the county will host a party to celebrate its new status. The eventís speakers list includes the head of the CSPOA, a California-based ďmamalitiaĒ [mama militia], and Simone Gold, a hydroxychloroquine-hyping doctor who is currently facing charges for allegedly entering the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 riot.

Richard Mack, founder of the CSPOA, said Landerís county manager reached out about securing membership for the entire jurisdiction. Membership is largely ďsymbolic,Ē Mack told The Daily Beast, though it does come at a cost.

More:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016293317

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