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Thu May 13, 2021, 10:01 PM

Texas Passes Bill That Would Create Anti-Abortion Vigilantes

Source: Daily Beast

Texas lawmakers have sent Gov. Greg Abbott a bill that would allow anyone in the state to sue over an abortion performed past six weeks—essentially turning right-to-lifers into courthouse vigilantes.

The law is a twist on the increasingly popular “heartbeat” laws that ban abortions past the date that a heartbeat can be detected—usually around six weeks gestation. (Experts say most embryos do not have a heart at this point, and that the technology is likely picking up an electric signal flutter.) Nine states have passed such six-week bans since 2013; all have been challenged in court and have yet to go into effect.

What differentiates Texas’ bill—and what some lawmakers hope will make it more effective—is the ability for private individuals to sue to enforce it. Under the law, any person who believes that an abortion occurred after a fetal heartbeat can be detected can sue—for minimum suggested damages of $10,000. And they can sue any number of people: the abortion provider, an abortion fund that helped pay for it, even a friend or family member who drove the woman to the clinic.

“It’s unprecedented, there's no question,” Amy Hagstrom-Miller, CEO of Texas-based abortion clinic Whole Woman’s Health, told The Daily Beast. “The idea that just anybody should be able to police a highly trained physician and their staff—that any Joe on the street can make that claim—is just totally shocking."

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-passes-heartbeat-bill-that-would-create-anti-abortion-vigilantes?ref=home



They do what they want, because they can.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Thu May 13, 2021, 10:03 PM

1. the Constitution is a floor, not a ceiling. This will not hold up to challenge.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Thu May 13, 2021, 10:05 PM

2. Whatever happened to 'Freedom'? Thought that was what the RW cares about.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #2)

Thu May 13, 2021, 10:20 PM

4. They care only about their freedom to force others to live by their beliefs.

They don’t actually cate about women or the babies they’re forced to have. If they did, Texas would not have a maternal death rate that equals a third-world country or the largest number of people in the country with no health insurance. Republicans everywhere are mean, nasty people, but those in Texas occupy a special place for nastiness and cruelty just because they can.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Thu May 13, 2021, 10:14 PM

3. Anyone thinking what I'm thinking?

This is how we beat the gun lobby. In the meantime, the law will strike too close at the zone where most anti-abortion voters won't let the legislation go... The ability to outlaw abortion while maintaining the right for the three closest women in each of their lives.

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Response to carpetbagger (Reply #3)

Fri May 14, 2021, 06:48 AM

8. Yes, very much so. Extended liability, not to mention age discrimination.

This law is Pandora's Box to product liability.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Fri May 14, 2021, 12:49 AM

5. Every birth above stasis adds $350K in local, county & state tax burdens over 18 years.

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Just add a flat 10,000 new births each and every year, for 18 years, when emancipation occurs, and Texas will have an additional $3.4 Billion in local, county and state taxes to deal with. And that's not accounting for inflation.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Fri May 14, 2021, 02:44 AM

6. It would seem perhaps the purpose is to encourage nuisance lawsuits

And depending on how the bill is written there may be no liability for trying.

But clinics and hospitals must answer to every single one filed.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Fri May 14, 2021, 06:42 AM

7. But no liability for those contributing to fatal gunshots?

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Fri May 14, 2021, 11:36 AM

9. They are opening the door for the man to control the woman's decision.

That's what they want, ultimately, for the man to dictate to the woman what she can do. For now they say to force women to carry to term, but once they take our choice away, the reverse could also be true—they could force women to have abortions. Remember the sterilizations down at the border?

I'm so sick of this fucking shit.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Fri May 14, 2021, 11:37 AM

10. Kinda like how

the Gestapo used citizen informants to do their legwork? At least the similarity looms large.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Fri May 14, 2021, 11:51 AM

11. Could someone explain to me...

...how the person filing suit would "have standing" to file such a suit? Was that explained anywhere in the article? I was too disgusted to read the whole thing.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Fri May 14, 2021, 01:09 PM

12. HIPAA Violation?

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Fri May 14, 2021, 06:32 PM

13. That's serious harassment.

Something I might would shoot back over, if I've been threatened and feel like I'm about to be robbed using the courthouse as a proxy.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Fri May 14, 2021, 06:43 PM

14. You could offer me a free house and I would never live in TX

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Response to Marrah_Goodman (Reply #14)

Fri May 14, 2021, 09:30 PM

15. I have been to Austin...

...which is an awesome city but in those moments when I imagine living there I am brought back to reality by the fact that I would be surrounded by the REST of Texas.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:29 AM

16. Creepy

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 05:06 PM

17. Nightmare

This is just insane

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