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Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:56 PM

Chinese officials identified Huanan market as a pandemic risk years before COVID emerged

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Source: The Age

London: Health experts in Wuhan knew the wet market at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak was a pandemic risk at least five years before COVID-19 emerged, a Sydney scientist has revealed.

In 2014 Dr Eddie Holmes, an evolutionary biologist and virologist, was taken to the Huanan seafood market by members of the Wuhan Centre for Disease Control, who used it as an example of the type of place where a virus could “spillover” from animals to humans. Holmes, a British scientist who now works at the University of Sydney, said the visit was part of a wider project to hunt for new pathogens with pandemic potential in China.

“The Wuhan CDC took us there, and here’s the key bit, because the discussion was: ‘where could a disease emerge?’ Well, here’s the place – that’s why I went,” Holmes said.

“I’ve been to a few of these markets, but this was a big one – it felt like a disease incubator, exactly the sort of place you would expect a disease to emerge”.

Read more: https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/chinese-officials-identified-huanan-market-as-a-pandemic-risk-years-before-covid-emerged-20210419-p57kan.html

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canetoad Apr 18 OP
PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 18 #1
Irish_Dem Apr 18 #2
PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 18 #4
Irish_Dem Apr 18 #5
PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 18 #9
raccoon Apr 19 #12
Irish_Dem Apr 19 #14
Irish_Dem Apr 18 #3
Grokenstein Apr 18 #6
FailureToCommunicate Apr 18 #7
monkeyman1 Apr 18 #8
orleans Apr 18 #10
NullTuples Apr 18 #11
twodogsbarking Apr 19 #13
IronLionZion Apr 19 #15
Omaha Steve Apr 20 #16
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Response to canetoad (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 06:19 PM

1. The book Spillover: Animal Infections and the Next Human Pandemic by David Quammen

is entirely about how disease move from animals to humans. It came out in 2012.

I have a copy of that book and read about half of it some years ago. I have pulled it off the shelf. Maybe I will finish it.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:00 PM

2. It should be required reading for all of us.

I think the pandemic is going to be with us for awhile.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:07 PM

4. I have been fascinated by diseases and epidemiology my whole life

and have read LOTS of the books out there on the topic. More people should be reading such things.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:25 PM

5. I think we have all had a crash mini course on these topics, plus virology.

But you are ahead of most of us.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:47 PM

9. The crash course only exists for those who have been paying attention.

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Which does tend to be a lot of those here on DU.

Another as yet unread book I found while searching for my copy of Spillover is Zoobiquity: The Astonishing Connection Between Human and Animal Health by Barbara Natterson-Horowitz and Kathryn Bowers. It also has a copyright date of 2012. I've taken it off the shelf and perhaps will read it soon.

So many books, so little time. Plus, I am truly a voracious reader. Two-thirds to three-quarters of what I read is non fiction, and there's hardly a topic I'm not interested in. Sigh.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 06:07 AM

12. Sounds like my reading habits, especially lately. I try to read

Some light fiction or something funny, to get away from the heavy stuff all the time.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 09:18 AM

14. Yes the ignorant keep their head in the sand. Not a good way to deal with an emergency.

It is good to be so widely read. I used to be like that when I was younger, now I tend to stick to the same old genres.
Or I just watch Netflix.

Keep up the good work! And thanks for the citations.

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Response to canetoad (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:04 PM

3. I hope that someday we can get the truth out of China.

It might be helpful for us to understand exactly what happened so we can prevent it from happening again.
If that is possible.

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Response to canetoad (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:30 PM

6. A Chinese market with a Texas attitude towards safety.

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Response to canetoad (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:13 PM

7. No one who's seen the movie "Contagion" would be surprised at that prediction.

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Response to canetoad (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:32 PM

8. china is not the only wet market in the wolrld !

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Response to canetoad (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 11:02 PM

10. apparently there is a difference between "wet markets"

this yr old article on cnn says wet markets can be a place where fresh vegetables are sold and hosed down and the floor is wet
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/asia/china-wet-market-coronavirus-intl-hnk/index.html


so the ones i think of (where animals are slaughtered) i think the term blood market would be more appropriate

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Response to canetoad (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 11:34 PM

11. Perhaps that's why we had people embedded in China's CDC

...for advanced notice of new emerging pandemics by the Obama Administration after H1N1.

Of course, the last such person was recalled and the program cancelled in mid-2019 by the GOP & Trump administration.

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Response to NullTuples (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 06:46 AM

13. You nailed it.

We could have been working with China for a solution but .......

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Response to NullTuples (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 11:19 AM

15. Has Biden reinstated that?

He probably should do it soon.

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Response to canetoad (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 06:32 AM

16. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING

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