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Sun Mar 28, 2021, 07:53 AM

Egypt's president orders preparations for unloading the Ever Given blocking the Suez Canal

Source: Washington Post

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Egypt’s president orders preparations for unloading the Ever Given blocking the Suez Canal

By Sudarsan Raghavan and Jennifer Hassan
March 28, 2021 at 7:38 a.m. EDT

ISMAILIA, Egypt — Egyptian President Abdel Fatah al-Sissi ordered preparations to be made for the unloading of the Ever Given cargo carrier that is blocking the Suez Canal, the head of the canal authority said Sunday.

Lt. Gen. Osama Rabie, chairman of the Suez Canal Authority, told Egyptian television that they were preparing for the "third scenario" of unloading containers from the massive ship so that it can be refloated and open up one of the world's busiest waterways which has been blocked for five days now and left more than 300 ships waiting to pass through.

Unloading some of the 18,000 containers from the towering ship would require special equipment so the president authorized obtaining it even while dredging continued, Rabie said, explaining that 27,000 cubic feet of sand had already been removed from around the vessel to a depth of 18 meters.

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The attempts to pull the vessel out of the sand and mud will be aided by the addition of two larger and heavier tug boats — the Netherlands-registered ALP Guard and the Italy-registered Carlo Magna. Both are scheduled to arrive on Sunday in the canal, said the ship’s technical manager, Bernhard Schulte Shipmanagement.

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Hassan reported from London. Heba Farouk Mahfouz in Cairo contributed to this report.

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Sudarsan Raghavan
Sudarsan Raghavan is The Washington Post’s Cairo bureau chief. has reported from more than 65 nations and territories. He has been posted in Baghdad, Kabul, Johannesburg, Madrid and Nairobi. He has covered the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the 2011 Arab revolutions, as well as reported from 17 African wars. Follow https://twitter.com/raghavanWaPo

Jennifer Hassan
Jennifer Hassan is a London-based breaking-news reporter for the Foreign desk at The Washington Post. Before joining The Post as a social media editor in 2016, Jennifer was global community manager for the international chat app Viber. Jennifer honed her breaking news skills as the U.K. social media editor at MailOnline. Follow https://twitter.com/GuinnessKebab

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/suez-ship-canal-ever-given-stuck/2021/03/28/4bda3ee8-8f2c-11eb-a33e-da28941cb9ac_story.html



GuinnessKebab? What a great handle.

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mahatmakanejeeves Mar 28 OP
2naSalit Mar 28 #1
DENVERPOPS Mar 28 #11
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BumRushDaShow Mar 28 #2
mahatmakanejeeves Mar 28 #6
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mahatmakanejeeves Mar 28 #24
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IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 28 #28
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efhmc Mar 28 #9
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:34 AM

1. That's a good handle.

Is this the first time the president of Egypt has made public comment? A week later?

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 11:37 AM

11. He was too busy crying about all the money he was losing......

And would someone explain why they are calling it EVER GIVEN, when it has a big EVERGREEN painted on the side??????

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 11:42 AM

13. Evergreen is the company, Ever Given is the boat name.

They have multiple mega-ships.

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Response to GemDigger (Reply #13)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 11:52 AM

14. Gotcha, thx NC

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:40 AM

2. They probably should have prepped to do that 5 days ago.

Did a quick search and the canal is about almost 80ft deep and I had posted in another thread that perhaps they could have tried to find something like this to use to unload it -



As I understand, that thing is active/in-use but I have no idea where it is operating at the moment.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 09:38 AM

6. Good morning. I'm no expert, but that crane doesn't look as if it's the sort that can

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load and unload container ships. Container cranes are specialized to lift containers by their lifting eyes. By being specialized to do one thing and one thing only, they could do the job much faster.

Any crane brought to the site will have a rental of a brazilian dollars per day.

This ain't gonna be cheap.

http://liftechniques.com/container_liffing_slings.html

https://www.containertechnics.com/en/blog/how-to-lift-a-shipping-container



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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 10:07 AM

7. Those "containers"

are often trailers that eventually get hitched to truck cabs and off they go on their way (as 18-wheelers)... I have seen them unload the barges at the piers along the Delaware river here and at the Ambassador Bridge between Detroit and Windsor, Ontario... and it's pretty fascinating. I don't think the weight is the issue with a crane like that. Last summer it lifted an 8,100 ton piece for a platform -



The typical 40ft container can hold up to around 62 tons.

I think the issue here is to get a crane that can extend up high enough to grab the topmost containers...

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 12:28 PM

16. How deep is the Port of Philadephia?

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Could it handle a ship of this size?

How tall a ship could get under the I-95 bridge over the Delaware River?

Just curious. No urgency.

Thanks.

{edited to add "I-95." I guess that's the route the bridge I'm thinking of carries. There might be a few.}

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #16)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 12:49 PM

20. It had generally been at 40 ft but over the past couple decades they have been dredging to 45 ft

and should be about complete, getting the entirety from the Delaware Bay on up (to the cargo piers further north) at least 45 ft - https://www.philaport.com/channel-deepening/



https://www.philaport.com/delaware-river-deepening-30-years-and-16-million-cubic-later/

And yes, one of our issues here too are the bridges (Walt Whitman and Ben Franklin) and getting some of the tallest ships (including large cruise ships) under those bridges to some of the piers upriver like Tioga Marine Terminal -



There are some terminals before the Walt Whitman bridge (which is the furthest south one) -

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #20)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 01:26 PM

24. Great post. Thanks. NT

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 01:50 PM

26. A couple years ago they brought in the largest ship to a pier at the time



(at a pier just before the Walt Whitman bridge)

I believe the Delaware was configured (dredging, etc) for shipping purposes to be (on average) at least 600 ft wide.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #20)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 02:03 PM

28. Fascinating...


... images and maps. All I can think of now is buoyancy and, "will it float under the bridge when empty"?

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Response to IthinkThereforeIAM (Reply #28)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 02:16 PM

29. Well here in Philly 1/4 of our shipments coming from Chile (grapes) during a specific season

and I have watched the barges go up and down the river to the refrigerated terminals (could see them from my office at work) - watching them go up "full" and come back "empty"... and yes, they are sitting "higher" in the water when empty!

Way up further in NE Philly for any ships going up that far, they do have to deal with a drawbridge - what we used to call the "double nickel bridge" (Tacony-Palmyra), which used to have a 10 cent toll back in the day. Now it is $4 like the rest of the bridge.

You can see why the need for a drawbridge there - "low ceiling"



(I think that ship was empty so it is "sitting high" )

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Response to WheelWalker (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 12:56 PM

21. Ahh.... thank you!

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:50 AM

3. cable winches, heavy ...

Anchored on the banks. On both sides of the stern.

Port side of the bow, slightly elevated to put pull and

lift on. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the winches are

stronger than the tugs... The port side pulls

the bow up and off the furrow it made. The stern side

winches keep the back from swinging into that canal bank..

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Response to Maxheader (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 12:40 PM

18. Seems like that might break the ship in two,

you start lifting it. I'm no engineer. All I can do mathematically is cross-multiply to solve for x.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:59 AM

4. Perhaps they also need to ban such enormous ships from the canal in the future.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 09:35 AM

5. So they can add 5,500 miles to their voyages between the Far East and Europe?

Hundreds or thousands of ships the size of this one must have made the transit successfully. There's one foulup, and they get banned?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 11:17 AM

9. If others went through with no problem, what happened here?

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Response to efhmc (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 11:33 AM

10. All I know is what I read in the papers, but it seems that high winds were a factor.

The Bay Bridge connects the mainland part of Maryland with the Eastern Shore. When there are high winds, big tractor-trailers are banned from the bridge. I'm pretty sure of that. I'll have to check. Anyway, maybe there should be a ban on vessels with so many square feet of vertical exposure from transiting the Suez Canal when the winds are predicted to reach a certain speed from a certain direction. When the winds subside or the direction shifts, then it's safe for the vessel to proceed through the canal.

Wind loading at such and such a level or below? Okay for passage.

Wind loading above such and such a level? Not okay for passage. Wait.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 11:58 AM

15. Exxon

should have thought of that as a defense for the captain of the Exxon Valdez.

The Supreme Court fined Exxon like 6 Billion dollars to pay for the cleanup and Exxon told them to go F*** themselves and never paid it.......

It's a lot like the Uber wealthy owing zillions to the IRS in back taxes and the mega wealthy just choosing not to pay it.......

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #15)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 12:43 PM

19. Your memory is faulty

The Supreme Court didn't fine Exxon... they dramatically reduced the fines that others (9th circuit) had applied (A Souter ruling in 2008), and Exxon paid it all a few months later.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 01:04 PM

22. The canal already has such procedures

They've closed before for winds as high as the ones reported in this case - and any ship over about 1500 tons (about the size of a WWII destroyer) is required to use a pilot who works for the canal.

But a freak dust storm isn't necessarily something that they get a bunch of warning about... and this is one of the largest such ships in the world.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #22)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 01:26 PM

23. Okay, that explains it.

It stands to reason that there would have a high-wind restriction in place already.

Thanks.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 11:15 AM

8. The real danger may be getting both vessels stuck in the canal...

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 11:39 AM

12. Good to see President al Sissi is reading my posts on DU

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 01:36 PM

25. I gather the worry with any kind of unloading is balance. A capsized ship would be...

um, worse.

These ships are loaded with special port cranes and perfectly balanced. Trying to unload somehow on the water with tug cranes or helicopters just wouldn't be safe.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 02:03 PM

27. This is going to end up-

- like the sofa on the staircase in Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently books, isn't it?

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