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Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:06 AM

FDA urges COVID19 patients to stop self-medicating with dangerous anti-parasite drug intended for...

Source: New York Daily News


FDA urges COVID-19 patients to stop self-medicating with dangerous anti-parasite drug intended for horses

2021/3/5 22:52 (EST)

A spike in hospitalizations is causing the Food and Drug Administration to warn the public against equine-grade ivermectin — an anti-parasite drug.

“The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses,” the FDA said Friday.

The NIH has not approved the drug to treat coronavirus for humans, nor is it a an anti-viral remedy. The FDA says large doses of ivermectin can cause “serious harm,” and that symptoms of an overdose include comas, seizures, vomiting and diarrhea. It can also be fatal.

CNN reports ivermectin has anti-inflammatory properties and had given indications in lab studies that it can stop COVID-19 from replicating. A double-blind study among 500 adults in Colombia reportedly shortened symptoms by two days according to respondents. It was not deemed a significant breakthrough.


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Reply FDA urges COVID19 patients to stop self-medicating with dangerous anti-parasite drug intended for... (Original post)
DonViejo Mar 6 OP
KS Toronado Mar 6 #1
frazzled Mar 6 #3
Bayard Mar 6 #5
frazzled Mar 6 #6
Bayard Mar 6 #8
maxrandb Mar 6 #9
Chakaconcarne Mar 6 #10
frazzled Mar 6 #12
catchnrelease Mar 6 #26
jmowreader Mar 6 #27
catchnrelease Mar 6 #29
Bayard Mar 7 #32
Hotler Mar 8 #36
maxrandb Mar 8 #37
HUAJIAO Mar 6 #15
jmowreader Mar 6 #28
catrose Mar 6 #13
HUAJIAO Mar 6 #14
tirebiter Mar 6 #2
dalton99a Mar 6 #4
machoneman Mar 6 #7
Chakaconcarne Mar 6 #11
oldsoftie Mar 6 #16
Post removed Mar 6 #17
oldsoftie Mar 6 #18
HUAJIAO Mar 6 #20
ForgoTheConsequence Mar 6 #23
pnwmom Mar 6 #24
oldsoftie Mar 6 #25
Politicub Mar 6 #19
jmowreader Mar 6 #30
Politicub Mar 7 #34
CaptainTruth Mar 6 #21
packman Mar 6 #22
EX500rider Mar 7 #31
jcgoldie Mar 7 #33
Hugh_Lebowski Mar 7 #35

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:26 AM

1. We would have a lot fewer people self-medicating

if our health care system wasn't the most expensive in the world.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:19 PM

3. And we'd have a lot fewer if people weren't stupid

Ivermectin is a prescription drug. I don’t know how people would even get it without a doctor’s prescription. So something illicit is going on—either quack doctors or some kind of black market.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 01:16 PM

5. $8 at Tractor Supply

Even cheaper online. Oral paste for horses. Liquid injectable for cattle. No prescription.

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Response to Bayard (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 01:24 PM

6. As I said, stupid

Who takes medicine made for horses?

The drug for people must be prescribed by a doctor.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 01:45 PM

8. I doubt people this stupid are getting prescriptions from their doctors

I'm betting they're going for the $8 version. The same people that swallow bleach.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 02:19 PM

9. Well, I used to have severe and painful back spasms. Literally put me flat for days

A friend suggested I try horse liniment. Kind of like Bengay, but a bit stronger.

That really worked for me. Fortunately, I lost some weight and did some wight training and yoga and my back is now fine, but that horse liniment worked wonders.

My bride loved it too. I'd slap some on and then go; "Neighhhhhhhhh"

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 02:22 PM

10. Bigeloil?

Or something like that.....stuff works really well.

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 02:35 PM

12. You're lucky

It’s not recommended

Public health experts say they are concerned about the use of products that have been taken off the human market, such as some liniments, fungicides and DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide), once popularly used as a penetrating agent for administering medications.

In the case of DMSO, a solvent, federal tests found it carries contaminants deep into the body. Other products, like menthylsulfonylmethane, or MSM, which is sold to ease arthritis in animals, have not been tested to be effective in people--and may pose risks, authorities warn.

Some horse liniments, for instance, can blister human skin, users warn. Ketamine, a veterinary anesthetic only recently classified as a federally controlled substance, has caused serious illness, even death, among people illegally using it as a hallucinogen.

“The big problem is that many of these preparations have never had human testing and they cannot [be assumed] to be safe for humans,” said Dr. Shirley Fannin, director of the Los Angeles County Department of Health Services. “People who use products illicitly are just playing Russian roulette.”

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-oct-22-mn-25038-story.html

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 05:02 PM

26. Probably Absorbine Jr

I used that on my horses and always loved the smell of that stuff. There is a human version that is very similar, mainly a difference in strength of the menthol I think.

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Response to catchnrelease (Reply #26)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 08:44 PM

27. Absorbine Jr is the human version; the equine version is Absorbine (no Jr.)

Horse products: https://absorbine.com

Human products: https://www.absorbinejr.com

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #27)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:52 PM

29. Oh right

It's been awhile since I used it--my last equine critter 'got her wings' in the mid 2000s.
Now I want to go buy some just to smell it again!

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #27)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 02:09 AM

32. I've used the equine gel version before on a bad old hamstring

Love that minty smell! Didn't bother my skin.

I've also used DMSO back in my running days. Back then, you did have to be careful about not wearing anything nylon over it, but I've seen new products now--for humans, not solvents--that aren't like that.

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 8, 2021, 10:10 AM

36. For lube?????................... nt

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Response to Hotler (Reply #36)

Mon Mar 8, 2021, 11:47 AM

37. LOL - you must be former Navy

That's the kind of humor six months at Sea develops

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Response to frazzled (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 02:50 PM

15. You are right. It is not the same stuff.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 08:49 PM

28. At the beginning of the pandemic people tried taking drugs made for aquariums

Remember the chloroquine aquarium cleaner people were dying from because the orange murderer was pushing HCQ as a curative?

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Response to Bayard (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 02:37 PM

13. Yes, I was going to say that my cats have taken it before, and I think it's easily available.

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Response to Bayard (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 02:48 PM

14. It's not the same as ivermectin for humans...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:37 AM

2. The vaccination is free

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:29 PM

4. "They're safe and they're cheap and they just might be incredibly effective," said Sen. Ron Johnson

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 01:33 PM

7. I do hope RonJon takes a massive dose. Hey, I also hope a ton of R's in red states jump on this...

idea and self-medicate a lot. We win again...........

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 02:25 PM

11. Well...if the fda is warning against it.......

Surely, that's a sign we should do the opposite.... or so I hear.

Parler is polluting the gene pool.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 03:06 PM

16. I actually know someone in her 30s who used this with some success.

I had never heard of it. I spoke with her a day after she started it & she thought it was helping.
Havent checked on her in several days, i think i'll send a text & see if she's doing better & make her aware of this article.

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Sat Mar 6, 2021, 04:01 PM

18. Thank you for that! My friend also had it when she started it.

I'll check on her today.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #18)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 04:17 PM

20. Glad someone else discovered it and found a doctor to prescribe it..

very few doctors will.

The FDA comments I think confuse the issue by not stating the difference between the 2 different versions of the drug. I've seen the same nonsense elsewhere as well...

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Response to Post removed (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 04:33 PM

23. Pierre Kory is a snake oil salesmen.

An "expert" touted by Ron Wyden and has been debunked more than once. This is dangerous misinformation.


Frontiers Removes Controversial Ivermectin Paper Pre-Publication


The editors of Frontiers in Pharmacology have taken down an article about the use of the antiparasitic drug ivermectin in COVID-19 patients. The paper, which was written by members of an organization called the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), had been provisionally accepted and posted in abstract form by the journal in January, but was ultimately rejected this Monday (March 1). The editors determined that it contained unsubstantiated claims and violated the journal’s editorial policies.

By the end of last week, the abstract had been viewed more than 85,000 times, according to snapshots available on the internet archive.

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/frontiers-removes-controversial-ivermectin-paper-pre-publication-68505

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 04:38 PM

24. Your friend probably got better despite the treatment with that drug

rather than instead of it.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #24)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 04:41 PM

25. Quite possible. I havent talked to her since but i just texted her. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 04:02 PM

19. People are chowing down on Heartgard chews. What could possibly go wrong?

But I guess its the liquid form for livestock that is causing most of the problems.

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Response to Politicub (Reply #19)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:24 PM

30. Well...at least they won't have heartworms

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #30)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 02:59 PM

34. I just avoid lapping up standing rainwater water from puddles. But I

may be missing out on something good.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 04:27 PM

21. Darwin at work...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 04:29 PM

22. WHAT!!- Hydrochloride,Bleach and a light shoved up your ass wasn't enough

Idiots

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 12:19 AM

31. Ivermectin does work...for scabies that is, in the correct dosage.

It has been approved for that in other countries.

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #31)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 03:31 AM

33. scabies comes from mites

Thats what ivermectin is used to treat for in animals both internal and external parasites ... that has nothing to do with a virus.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 03:41 PM

35. A virus is nothing but a weed growing the body, now is it?

I've read that chugging Roundup is next miracle cure, Republicans!!!

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