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Sat Mar 6, 2021, 09:28 AM

Cellphone records tie Proud Boys member to someone in Trump White House, NYT reports

Source: Business Insider

A member of the Proud Boys was in contact with someone in former President Donald Trump's White House in the days before the Capitol Attack on January 6, The New York Times reported.

An anonymous source who is familiar with a cellphone data report from the Federal Bureau of Investigations told the Times that it's not clear what they discussed and did not disclose the names of either individual.

The information was found partly as a result of data the FBI got from technology and telecommunications companies immediately after the riot, when Trump supporters breached the US Capitol and clashed with law enforcement.

... snip ...

The news comes after the leader of the Proud Boys, Enrique Tarrio, told the Times that he spoke on the phone with Roger Stone, a close associate of Trump, at a rally in front of Senator Marco Rubio's home a few days before the Capitol attack.

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-says-tie-between-a-proud-boy-trump-white-house-2021-3

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Reply Cellphone records tie Proud Boys member to someone in Trump White House, NYT reports (Original post)
UpInArms Mar 6 OP
marble falls Mar 6 #1
riversedge Mar 6 #4
marble falls Mar 6 #13
BobTheSubgenius Mar 6 #37
marble falls Mar 6 #38
BobTheSubgenius Mar 6 #44
DENVERPOPS Mar 6 #33
Wednesdays Mar 6 #42
DENVERPOPS Mar 6 #45
sarcasmo Mar 6 #35
bearsfootball516 Mar 6 #2
KS Toronado Mar 6 #6
AZ8theist Mar 6 #10
GB_RN Mar 6 #26
AZ8theist Mar 7 #46
GB_RN Mar 7 #47
AZ8theist Mar 7 #48
GB_RN Mar 7 #50
AZ8theist Mar 7 #52
Lonestarblue Mar 6 #11
Texin Mar 6 #16
TwilightZone Mar 6 #34
RocRizzo55 Mar 6 #17
Laura PourMeADrink Mar 6 #22
Captain Zero Mar 6 #8
marble falls Mar 6 #15
riversedge Mar 6 #3
SergeStorms Mar 6 #21
Laura PourMeADrink Mar 6 #23
choie Mar 6 #5
KS Toronado Mar 6 #9
Ninga Mar 6 #14
choie Mar 6 #41
FakeNoose Mar 6 #18
Laura PourMeADrink Mar 6 #24
rockfordfile Mar 6 #27
BlueWavePsych Mar 6 #7
paleotn Mar 6 #12
infullview Mar 6 #19
Laura PourMeADrink Mar 6 #25
dianaredwing Mar 6 #29
bottomofthehill Mar 6 #20
bucolic_frolic Mar 6 #28
Bengus81 Mar 6 #30
gldstwmn Mar 6 #31
KPN Mar 6 #32
Bayard Mar 6 #36
Pluvious Mar 6 #39
LudwigPastorius Mar 6 #40
BobTheSubgenius Mar 6 #43
Blue Owl Mar 7 #49
machoneman Mar 7 #51

Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 09:35 AM

1. This impending final colapse of the exPresident* will be epic.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 09:58 AM

4. This dribble dribble is driving me nuts. But I trust Lady Justice will come on top

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Response to riversedge (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:43 AM

13. I don't think this is a slow investigation/prosecution, I do think it is relentless and I believe ..

... a thorough building of a case while all the insurrectionists are still giddily confessing all over the internet about everything. It's the conspiracy of motormouths and social media addicts.

I'm surprised no Capital Police were beaten to death with selfie sticks on Jan 6.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #13)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 01:55 PM

37. ...or crushed by the weight of massive egos and ridiculous fantasies.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #37)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 02:28 PM

38. It was blackhole of talent, smarts. Just gullibile people with enough money to get there ...

... Trumps fatal flaw ... always going to the lowest bidder. The best talent is seldom bargain-basement.

And a reputation for stiffing the help does not make recruiting for an insurrection any easier.

The biggest con Roger Stone pulled off was getting the exPresident* to believe Stone was able to stage-manage a coup with some sort of help from the Proud Boys.

Stone may see prison yet.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #38)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:23 PM

44. OH, God I hope so!

Roger needs to finish his days eating the crap they call "food" and sleeping on a 3" thick mattress on a steel pallet.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:27 PM

33. We can always hope

But considering the massive amount of criminal shit that has taken place by this Whitehouse and all the minions, with nothing really landing hard on anyone, I'm not holding my breath. Look at the Mueller debacle for starters, and the incredible quantity of Pardons.

If something truly lands on any of their heads, I will be happy.

I wish some attorney would tell us if a criminal trial requires the entire jury to vote guilty to convict someone, or if it is 10 out of 12 or whatever. The reason I ask is, if it requires a unanimous vote, the chances of at least one person on that jury being a die hard trump humper is pretty good. (like the OJ trial. what do they call that? Jury annulment??? or something like that.)

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #33)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 04:56 PM

42. Any decent prosecutor should be able to sniff out tRump humpers

Just two or three questions during jury selection would be enough.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #42)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:52 PM

45. Maybe

bit I thought that each sides attorneys were only allowed so many disqualifications........

Maybe some criminal attorney in our audience can inform us about these laws......

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Response to marble falls (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 01:06 PM

35. Former Guy will be living in a courtroom for years.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 09:52 AM

2. 20 bucks says it's Stephen Miller.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:14 AM

6. $20 bucks says individual is currently living in mud-a-largo

Qrump has a history of micro managing everything, he is deeply involved in Jan 6th

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:26 AM

10. Here I thought it was Mara-a-bedbug.....

I must have the wrong address....

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #10)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:58 AM

26. You Do.

Last edited Sun Mar 7, 2021, 02:04 AM - Edit history (1)

That was the Doral that was infested with bedbugs, not Marm-a-Lardo. 😁

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Response to GB_RN (Reply #26)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 12:28 AM

46. "Marm-a-Lardo"...good one!!

But didn't Lardo get some health code violations as well??

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #46)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 02:02 AM

47. Yup

Shit was going on in the kitchen.

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Response to GB_RN (Reply #47)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 02:04 AM

48. link behind a paywall...ugh..

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #48)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 09:48 AM

50. Odd

I Googled it and could read the whole thing, can still get to it via the link, but I don't have a sub to the LA Times.

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Response to GB_RN (Reply #50)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 05:54 PM

52. I'll try that...perhaps my VPN got in the way...

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:33 AM

11. It's may be Miller or an aide who can be sacrificed.

Trump likes to micromanage, but he uses other people to do the dirty work.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:54 AM

16. I'll guarantee that tRump was probably in on the call by conference.

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Response to Texin (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 01:00 PM

34. Possibly not.

He's the king of plausible deniability so he always has someone else do the dirty work. I suspect he wouldn't have been on the actual calls for that reason.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:58 AM

17. And here i thought

it was Con-A-Loto

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:35 AM

22. Surprised to hear someone say that he micromanages.

So many people say he is too dumb and stupid to do that.

I am 100% convince he orchestrated 1/6, with someone, yes. But jeez, how do you ever get accomplices to turn on trump? I mean with hard evidence? Not a wink and a nod. Trump would just deny it

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:19 AM

8. I doubt PBs ordered pillows from Mike Lindell

So yes Miller or Don Jr.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:49 AM

15. Easy money. If you can get it. It was either him or Jr.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 09:57 AM

3. ohoh . now to zero in the WHO! Was Stone in the WH during the terrorist riot??..............

I have not read that he was--or was not.



..............The news comes after the leader of the Proud Boys, Enrique Tarrio, told the Times that he spoke on the phone with Roger Stone, a close associate of Trump, at a rally in front of Senator Marco Rubio's home a few days before the Capitol attack.

Videos from before the riot show Stone being guarded by six people who were members of The Oath Keepers, a militant anti-government extremist group.

Stone told ABC News he had "no advance knowledge" of the riot.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:34 AM

21. Enrique Tarrio...

that name sounds........very foreign to me. Certainly not a fine, upstanding white Anglo-Saxon name, to be sure. And this.......foreigner is the leader of the white supremacist Proud Boys?

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Response to riversedge (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:37 AM

23. My guess, Rudy

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:11 AM

5. The FBI also states that they found no

communication between them and the repub congress members - which I must say surprises me.

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Response to choie (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:21 AM

9. Believe it's time for a new FBI director

Seems like he panders to Rs more, not so much for Ds

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Response to choie (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:45 AM

14. Welp, maybe not "the proud boys" but I didn't read that all cell phone records show no one

in Congress communicated with someone other than a proud asshole. I may have missed something though.

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Response to Ninga (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 04:54 PM

41. Yeah the article in the Times (stretching credulity)

says "The same data has revealed no evidence of communications between the rioters and members of Congress during the deadly attack, the official said. That undercuts Democratic allegations that some Republican lawmakers were active participants that day."

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Response to choie (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:07 AM

18. The Repukes in Congress are smart enough to use burner phones

... or they have calls go to their "aides" rather than directly to them. Again it would be on a burner phone, not an office landline for obvious reasons.

The feds will probably not find anything unless somebody snitches. Some of these proud boys are falling all over themselves trying to get deals, so the snitching part is still possible.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #18)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:39 AM

24. But, they were worried about cell phone records, right?

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Response to choie (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:10 PM

27. I would think communications would be close to someone like that.

Not directly. They're are deep with those pos traitors.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:17 AM

7. Get 'em

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 10:42 AM

12. Careful.

I'd love to have an ring side seat to these investigations, but this has got to be done as close to perfect as possible. There can be no question whether these investigations and possible indictments are political in nature. It has to be very clear that this is about the law and only the law, not politics. So no leaks and no screw ups. I trust that federal law enforcement ARE doing their jobs as apolitically and with the level of professionalism we've come to expect. That is all I need to know....for now. All will be made public in time. I can wait.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:10 AM

19. This will amount to NOTHING!

Trump isn't dumb enough to speak directly with anyone of consequence that could tie him directly to the insurrection. His mob lieutenants, such as Roger Stone, would set it up and then report into the boss in coded language that could never be used as proof.
They can examine the cell phone records till the cows come home, and they will find NOTHING! He's been a mob boss so long he's an expert in talking between the lines. The only thing they will get Trump on is stuff in writing like his tax returns.

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Response to infullview (Reply #19)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:48 AM

25. Ya, tend to agree. I do think back to Omarosa who used

her cell phone to record someone in WH. Then there's Malaria's former friend who recorded her using F word and Christmas in same sentence...

My only point is... Why haven't more people taped him? Is it because he has blackmailed everyone now? And has only ultimate loyalists left? Hard to defend if YOU proposed an insurrection TO him. It's got to be the opposite.

I totally think though that those who got pardons were doing whatever he wanted

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Response to infullview (Reply #19)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:13 PM

29. Were the Georgia election officials

Not important or of consequence?

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:11 AM

20. I for one am shocked

Proud Boys talking to someone at the white house, how could that happen?

Oh yes, the former President invited them.

My bad

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:10 PM

28. Hope it was Pence, proving the whole operation was orchestrated theater

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:18 PM

30. Oh my.......

Drip...drip...drip

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:18 PM

31. Stephen Miller

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:23 PM

32. Done getting my hopes up.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 01:29 PM

36. I'm thinking trump junior

Yes, he really is that stupid,

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 02:40 PM

39. The Former Guy is gonna go through some things nt.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 04:16 PM

40. My money's on Nosferatu, Jr. in the betting pool.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 09:06 PM

43. Does this surprise anyone? At all?

The only slightly surprising thing is that they didn't have enough sense to employ countermeasures. Burner phones. It's not that difficult.

What might be surprising? Anyone seeing any consequences arising from this.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 04:12 AM

49. John Barron?

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 11:38 AM

51. They were very careless with phones (records) emails, etc. since they thought the revolution....

...would succeed.

Amazingly, the list of R's that attended that pre-1/6 riot meeting continues to grow. Even the fact that we quickly knew who was there betrays this fact: they didn't care who knew since they believed they would ultimately be successful and re-install Trumpy as president.

Thank God that everything Trumpy touches has failed, and failed miserably.

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