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Fri Mar 5, 2021, 02:56 PM

Minimum wage hike falls short as Senate debates virus bill

Source: AP

By ALAN FRAM

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate seemingly killed progressives’ last-ditch effort to include a minimum wage hike in the Democrats’ $1.9 trillion COVID-19 relief bill Friday, as the chamber began climactic votes on the huge package embodying President Joe Biden’s top legislative priority.

Senators voted 58-42 against the increase, though the vote wasn’t yet formally gaveled to a close. Eight Democrats voted against the proposal, suggesting that Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and other progressives vowing to continue the fight in coming months will face a difficult fight.

Though the number of Democrats opposing the proposal was a surprise, its defeat was not. Solid Republican opposition had guaranteed in advance that proponents would fall well short of the 60 votes needed to win. The proposal would boost the federal minimum wage to $15 hourly by 2025, up from its current $7.25.

The overall bill, aimed at battling the killer virus and nursing the staggered economy back to health, will provide direct payments of up to $1,400 to most Americans. There’s also money for COVID-19 vaccines and testing, aid to state and local governments, help for schools and the airline industry, tax breaks for lower-earners and families with children, and subsidies for health insurance.



Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., arrives at the Capitol in Washington, Friday, March 5, 2021, as the Senate steers toward a voting marathon on the $1.9 trillion COVID-19 relief bill that's expected to end with the chamber's approval of the measure. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)



Read more: https://apnews.com/article/senate-nears-virus-relief-bill-vote-fa965b1b413d811ad10549b3460c6643

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Reply Minimum wage hike falls short as Senate debates virus bill (Original post)
Omaha Steve Mar 5 OP
Fullduplexxx Mar 5 #1
IronLionZion Mar 5 #2
Hoyt Mar 5 #3
frazzled Mar 5 #6
CaptainTruth Mar 5 #11
CaptainTruth Mar 5 #10
Hoyt Mar 5 #12
CentralMass Mar 5 #4
regnaD kciN Mar 5 #20
Demsrule86 Mar 6 #24
Polybius Mar 5 #5
frazzled Mar 5 #7
Polybius Mar 5 #8
frazzled Mar 5 #9
George II Mar 5 #23
LovingA2andMI Mar 5 #16
Demsrule86 Mar 6 #25
CentralMass Mar 5 #13
Tommymac Mar 5 #15
turbinetree Mar 5 #14
George II Mar 5 #17
NurseJackie Mar 5 #18
oldsoftie Mar 5 #19
regnaD kciN Mar 5 #21
MichMan Mar 5 #22
Marthe48 Mar 6 #26

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 03:01 PM

1. Hey who needs the cons we apparently have enough in our party

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Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 03:24 PM

2. Manchin and Sinema were against the minimum wage hike

but we will get the rest of the bill passed with 50 votes plus VP Harris.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 03:32 PM

3. Seems to me that the amendment voted down was really to IGNORE the Parliamentarian.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 03:59 PM

6. That is technically correct

Whether that is an excuse or a position on the minimum wage altogether is something to be debated.

The Senate voted 58 to 42 against an attempt to waive a procedural objection against adding the wage provision to the $1.9 trillion COVID-19 relief bill.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/541826-senate-rejects-sanders-15-minimum-wage-hike


By the way, for those who might not have been following, the minimum wage hike was part of Biden's $1.9 trillion Covid Relief Bill (Biden, not Sanders). The Parliamentarian of the Senate said it was not eligible to be part of the bill under reconciliation. This vote was to bypass the Parliamentarian's decision and include it nonetheless.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 04:13 PM

11. +1

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 04:12 PM

10. The Parlimentarian said it couldn't be in the bill...

...so my impression was that this vote was to ignore the ruling of the Parlimentarian & include the wage hike in the bill in spite of their ruling.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 04:26 PM

12. Think it's mistake to ignore Parliamentarian. Worse, if we did, it might sink/delay relief bill.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 03:42 PM

4. Back to the status quo politics of the last 4 decades.

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 06:16 PM

20. Indeed...and don't think voters won't remember this in 2020 and 2024...


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Response to CentralMass (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:19 PM

24. The relief bill is a good bill, and we only got it because we have a majority and we only have

majority due to moderates...there are more states where Progressives can't win statewide than states they where can win statewide...and that make me sad. But it is what it is. I prefer half a loaf to no loaf.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 03:53 PM

5. Who were the 8 Democrats that voted no?

The article left them out.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 04:01 PM

7. Here

Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), Jon Tester (D-Mont.), Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), Maggie Hassan (D-N.H.), Chris Coons (D-Del.) Tom Carper (D-Del.) and Angus King (I-Maine.) voted to sustain a procedural objection — a budget point of order — against the wage increase.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/541826-senate-rejects-sanders-15-minimum-wage-hike

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Response to frazzled (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 04:05 PM

8. Thank you!

I'm surprised it was so many.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 04:09 PM

9. Interestingly

All but two of those senators are from states that already have minimum wage laws above the federal level. (New Hampshire, with 2 of the senators, uses the federal wage of $7.25)

Two of them (West Virginia and Montana) are barely above, at $8.25
Delaware (also with 2 of the senators) is at $10.25
Arizona and Maine are both at $12.15.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 07:33 PM

23. It wasn't a vote on the $15 minimum wage, it was a vote on including it improperly in THIS bill.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:12 PM

16. It was more than Manchin and Sinema. Interesting....

They were just the cover for the other six DEMOCRATS. Amazing how exposed things are when certain parties are "in power" which they begged for up until November 2020.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

25. Well life would be so much better if Mitch was majority leader for sure...I mean

the government shut down's alone would be super.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 04:32 PM

13. It doesn't really matter. It's the DC shuffle. Same as it's always been.

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:11 PM

15. As long as we use Citizens' United as the $$$ standard for election financing,

We will continue to fight the class war.

Oligarch's give money to all Parties to cover their bases. The minimum wage fight is a prime example.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:08 PM

14. Lets see New Hampshire just passed a "Right for Less" law

Montana is doing it , Arizona is one already, also , Delaware and Maine are not or do not have the law on the books.............think that is another reason............

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:16 PM

17. The wage hike didn't fail, including it in the reconciliation bill (against Senate rules) failed....

This wasn't a vote on the $15 minimum wage itself.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:26 PM

18. Bullshit reporting... something I'd expect from hack writers at Politico.

Senators voted 58-42 against the increase,
They did not vote "against the increase." They voted against the gimmick of improperly including it in the Covid relief bill.

If that ill-advised tactic had been successful, it would have surely KILLED the Covid Relief Bill. OR... even in the unlikely event it has passed, it surely would have been immediately challenged in court, thus delaying the implementation of the relief bill for MONTHS.



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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:35 PM

19. Do a standalone bill to raise it to $8.50.

Some republicans would probably go for that.
Then do another one next year to raise it some more
DOUBLING it in only 4 yrs is way too much for a small business to handle. Unless you want to make it apply to big companies above a certain number.
Also, many states have already increased their minimum wage. As well as a number of larger companies such as Costco, WalMart, Target.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 06:20 PM

21. No, not a single Republican will go for that...

...and we'd need ten, since it would be covered by the filibuster, unlike this bill.

And, even if we were to pass that, the campaign ads write themselves: "The Democrat Party promised voters to raise the minimum wage to $15. Instead, they raised it...to only $8.50."

I hate to say it, but any attempt to raise the minimum wage to a living wage is now dead for the foreseeable future. And it will impact us all in the next two election cycles.


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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 06:23 PM

22. Just handle it on a state by state level

Any state can change it to $15, $20 or more without the Federal government doing anything.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 02:02 PM

26. Always remember never forget

who hates working people. republicans hate working people.

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