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Wed Mar 3, 2021, 10:42 PM

House passes expansive police reform bill named in honor of George Floyd

Source: Washington Post

The House on Wednesday passed the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, an expansive police reform measure named for the 46-year-old Black man who died last Memorial Day after a Minneapolis police officer pressed his knee against his neck for more than eight minutes.The bill passed 220-212 along mostly party lines with two Democrats voting against it and one Republican voting for it.

Floyd’s death triggered a national outcry for a systemic transformation of law enforcement, but the push for policing changes couldn’t overcome partisan and election-year gridlock in Congress and the legislative efforts failed last year. Democrats were determined to try again, as they control the White House, Senate and House. The measure that passed the House last summer on a 236-to-181 vote was reintroduced last month by Reps. Karen Bass (D-Calif.) and Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.).

“A profession where you have the power to kill should be a profession that requires highly-trained officers who are accountable to the public,” Bass said during the House floor debate.The legislation would ban chokeholds, end racial and religious profiling, establish a national database to track police misconduct and prohibit certain no-knock warrants. It also contains several provisions that would make it easier to hold officers accountable for misconduct in civil and criminal court.

One proposal long sought by civil rights advocates would change “qualified immunity,” the legal doctrine that shields officers from lawsuits, by lowering the bar for plaintiffs to sue officers for alleged civil rights violations.President Biden praised the bill on Wednesday in a virtual call with House Democrats. The White House said Monday that it supports the legislation and that the president “looks forward to working with the Congress to enact a landmark policing reform law.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-floyd-police-reform-bill-vote/2021/03/03/5ea9ba3a-7c6c-11eb-85cd-9b7fa90c8873_story.html



Good.

Have to see which 2 Democrats voted against it.

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Reply House passes expansive police reform bill named in honor of George Floyd (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Mar 3 OP
msongs Mar 3 #1
BumRushDaShow Mar 3 #3
CousinIT Mar 3 #2
BumRushDaShow Mar 3 #4
CousinIT Mar 3 #5
BumRushDaShow Mar 3 #6
CousinIT Mar 3 #7
BumRushDaShow Mar 3 #8
speak easy Mar 4 #28
mountain grammy Mar 3 #9
JoeOtterbein Mar 4 #10
BumRushDaShow Mar 4 #11
Rhiannon12866 Mar 4 #12
Martin68 Mar 4 #13
mopinko Mar 4 #14
BumRushDaShow Mar 4 #15
mopinko Mar 4 #16
BumRushDaShow Mar 4 #17
discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 4 #18
BumRushDaShow Mar 4 #19
discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 4 #20
BumRushDaShow Mar 4 #22
discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 4 #21
BumRushDaShow Mar 4 #23
discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 4 #24
BumRushDaShow Mar 4 #25
discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 4 #26
BumRushDaShow Mar 4 #27
speak easy Mar 4 #29
BumRushDaShow Mar 5 #31
myohmy2 Mar 5 #30

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Mar 3, 2021, 10:59 PM

1. and which dems will vote against in the senate nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 3, 2021, 11:07 PM

3. The Senate problem will be cloture

and that will be an issue for every other piece of legislation like this coming from the House that is not a Reconciliation bill unless there are enough swing GOP Senators who feel that black lives DO matter, which is a dubious matter at best (although I did see where Cory Booker was apparently working with Tim Scott on "something" ).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Mar 3, 2021, 11:05 PM

2. NONE of this will pass in the Senate unless we DEMAND Schumer get rid of the filibuster n/t

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 3, 2021, 11:09 PM

4. Schumer alone can't do it "alone". Manchin and Sinema would have to vote to do so

with ALL of the rest of the Democrats plus bring in VP. Harris to break the tie to make it 51.

I.e., a Rules change to remove the filibuster for either certain pieces of legislation or for all of it, requires a simple majority (51 votes).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 3, 2021, 11:12 PM

5. Schumer needs to PUSH HARD for it.

He is the leader. These goddamned DINOs are holding their filibuster blankie while our Democracy DIES.

This is not a principled stance. It's asinine and anti-Democratic.

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 3, 2021, 11:15 PM

6. He's going to have to cajole

with some serious pork for WV & AZ like they did in the old days for Byrd and for people like Murtha (in the House).

Otherwise we may end up having a party-switcher and that will mean that Turtle will take the Senate back over and nothing that comes from the House will be allowed to come to the floor anymore (like what happened the previous 6 years).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 3, 2021, 11:21 PM

7. Thing is, if Dems don't get BIG THINGS DONE NOW, they'll lose in 2022 and 2024 - both houses

People voted for them expecting BIG BOLD action on many fronts. If they aren't bold or strong enough to get it done, they'll lose congress. In fact I think Democrats will have no power in congress again for at least a decade if they don't protect Democracy NOW.

They better get a clue and get their priorities in order.

They can clutch their filibuster blankie later. Right now, Democracy is slipping away while they clutch their precious. They need to let it go.

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 3, 2021, 11:40 PM

8. You are preaching to the choir



The problem is that we managed to NOT get people like Susan Collins out nor Thom Tillis (as well as a few harder ones), although people crawled over glass to get Kelley, Warnock, and Ossoff in to give Democrats the majority in the Senate for the first time since 2014. But it is a BARE majority only because we won the Presidency and thus the VP forms the "51st vote" to give us the chairs of the committees and the ability to control the schedule and floor action.

When one is "wealthy" but certainly NOT humble like Manchin (versus his predecessor John D. Rockefeller IV), then they have lost touch with "the people". And that is in contrast to Rockefeller, who managed to get the pulse of his adopted state, "becoming" a West Virginian, and advocating for them, despite his storied family.

I think this is why Biden had Harris go in and talk to the current governor of WV (and I expect Biden may do some of that himself). What is probably going to need to happen is that the state (like their governor) needs to put the pressure on Manchin and Biden, having been a centrist himself, probably knows how to "talk" centrist-speak to hopefully turn their ships around.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 11:13 PM

28. +!

Yes.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Mar 3, 2021, 11:41 PM

9. Nobody should be against this.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 12:01 AM

10. The two are:

Democrats, Reps. Jared Golden of Maine and Ron Kind of Wisconsin

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 12:12 AM

11. Thank you

I have been refreshing the House Clerk roll call page and they haven't updated yet (am guessing they want to do the final update of this bill and H.R. 1 - the voter one).

CNN updated their article that has this -

Two moderate Democrats -- Reps. Jared Golden of Maine and Ron Kind of Wisconsin -- opposed the measure, while GOP Rep. Lance Gooden of Texas said after the fact that he had voted for it by accident.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/03/politics/house-vote-george-floyd-policing-bill/index.html


And FFS - the one GOPer voting for it claiming he "voted for it by accident" is just ludicrous.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 01:18 AM

12. Oops!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 01:33 AM

13. Kudos to the two Republicans who supported it, and may the "Democrat" who opposed it go to hell.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:38 PM

14. that lawsuit thing is big.

i had some serious hassles w the cops last year. not only wrongfully arrested, based on signed statements the cops KNEW were false, but also not protected from some evil fuckers on my block.

seemed like an open and shut thing, but one of the top lawyers here is an old friend, said- nope. they got immunity for shit like that.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:48 PM

15. The immunity thing has to be dealt with

and in order to do that, they need to also essentially neuter/reformulate the so-called "Police unions" (that have various names like "Fraternal Order of Police" or "Police Benevolent Association", etc.). They are not so much unions (for bargaining purposes, although they do fulfill that function as part of their existence), but they have become "get out of jail free cards".

Millions upon millions of dollars have been wasted and squandered from city budgets and used for civil settlements due to police misconduct that was allowed to stand because of those organizations. That money could have gone towards building new schools and/or maintenance of existing ones and/or for urban infrastructure improvements and/or for local tax relief.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 03:41 PM

16. the fop in chi is THE WORST.

head is an out and out nazi.

yup. scam city. they are nothing but a protection racket.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #16)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 04:06 PM

17. Same here in Philly FOP

Lodge 5 headed up by John McNesby is a fucking nightmare and their national org endorsed 45 both elections (where Lodge 5 accepted that) - and it got to the point where the black officers (who have their own union - the Guardian Civic League - due to the racism in the FOP) protested the endorsements along with black firefighters.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 05:39 PM

18. Lodge 5 / 8th district

No shortage of corruption and back washing there.
To protect and serve OURSELVES is what really happens.

Serve the rich, abuse the poor and minorities, do a half-assed job for everyone else.

I had a Camaro stolen several years ago. The response was a phone call for the report. No visit, just a call. I had just moved. Told them to put my new address on the report. After calling for a year and getting, "If it was recovered, you'd have been notified" I said to a rather pleasant officer, "I know but humor me and please check."

Car was recovered 10 days after it was stolen. Letter was sent to the OLD ADDRESS. Sent to a scrap yard after 30 days.
What did I get? "I'm really sorry."

I'm glad I didn't get fined for failing to change my address.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 05:43 PM

19. You're lucky you weren't sent one of those $200+/day bills

for storage before they scrapped it.... but then maybe that was sent to your old address.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 06:00 PM

20. This was the '90s

I did get eventually get friendly note from PA DMV about having the registration suspended for an unpaid parking ticket the thieves had apparently racked up. You'd think there would be a system to check violations against stolen cars.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #20)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 06:12 PM

22. Apparently the communication between the PPA's system

and the PA DMV is a bit "muddled".

But then the PPA did have its own reality show!



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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 06:03 PM

21. Still annoyed... that was my second favorite car of all time. Z-28, black and gray.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 06:15 PM

23. That was a popular model

back when cars had "real" trunks. Then they shrunk the sizes of the sedans and coupes.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #23)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 06:23 PM

24. Real vs shrunken

Brings to mind my favorite car, my '66 Caprice 396.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 06:42 PM

25. LOL

I used to like the Caprice when I was a kid. They were elegant gigantic cars.

But then I grew up riding around in the back of various station wagons (a '64 Ford Country Squire and a '68 Ford Country Squire LTD).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 08:18 PM

26. This would be what my car would look like today:

https://barnfinds.com/big-block-wagon-1966-chevrolet-caprice/1966-caprice-wagon-1/

The 396 badge on the fender.
The interior is different. The clock in this pic is in the dash. Mine was mounted on top of the dash. The tach was where the clock is shown. Mine also had an M-20 4 speed which was really rare for a wagon.

I see in pic #2 this person has opted for the same hi-performance ignition coil that I had.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #26)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 08:50 PM

27. Ha! They all "looked the same"



It (the Country Squire) had the wood panel stuff on the side.



And my mother's sister ended up buying the same model.

Then we later got the "green one" (a dream at the drive-in - rear seat down and me and my sisters sprawled out)....



The first time I had a car with real FM radio was my own 1989 Chevy Corsica. I didn't know how to act.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 11:25 PM

29. 1977: One of the last full size Country Squires

Last of the Breed: 1977 Ford Country Squire Wagon





The Country Squire was the top of the line wagon, and as such it always included woodgrain on its body panels. 1977 would be the next-to-last year before Ford downsized its cars, following the lead of the other domestic manufacturers. Engine options included a 400ci or a 460ci V8, both of which were less impressive than their cubic-inch displacements make them sound, as they were both heavily tuned towards fuel economy and emissions-compliance.

https://barnfinds.com/wood-on-green-on-green-1977-ford-country-squire-wagon/

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Response to speak easy (Reply #29)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 05:44 AM

31. I still see some tooling around

I expect they were garaged and maybe had new engines put in.

And since people scratch their heads about why the SUVs have been popular (as an alternative to the much-hated minivan), it's that need to haul people and STUFF (to the point that they eventually developed the "4 door pickup" to do the same - people + stuff). Calls to mind the old George Carlin routine.





The downside to the Fords (and Lincolns and Mercury) through the '70s, was that damn carburetor. I remember every spring and fall, start car, drive up the street a bit, stop to make a turn, step on pedal to start moving, ANNNDDDDD... stall...

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 02:19 AM

30. +1...

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