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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:19 AM Mar 2021

McConnell to Fight Stimulus Bill 'In Every Way' as Biden Urges Senate Dems to Get it Done Now

Source: MSN

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has vowed that Republicans will fight the $1.9 trillion stimulus bill "in every way we can" as President Joe Biden urged Senate Democrats to stick together and pass the package quickly.

McConnell called the sprawling package "wildly expensive" and warned that Republicans will oppose the bill "in every way that we can" in a Tuesday press briefing. "It is my hope that at the end, Senate Republicans will unanimously oppose it just like House Republicans did," he said.

Meanwhile, Biden aggressively pushed Senate Democrats to unify and rally around the package in a virtual conference call. Some moderates in the party such as Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia have publicly opposed some provisions of the bill for being too costly, but Biden urged all members to get it passed fast, even if they don't accept the full package.

After the call, Senator Tim Kaine reiterated the message from Biden to reporters as: "This is really important. Democrats stick together. Let's get this done."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-to-fight-stimulus-bill-in-every-way-as-biden-urges-senate-dems-to-get-it-done-now/ar-BB1eaqLI?li=BBorjTa



Of course, will Republicans be held accountable for the $2.3 trillion tax cut that they approved even when the economy was already strong, which mostly benefitted the rich? Nonetheless, by embracing racism, Republicans might even be able to get the white working class to oppose the benefits that would help them and support huge tax cuts to the top 1 percent. All Republicans need to do is blame a minority woman (Kamala Harris or Tammy Duckworth or AOC) and that might be enough to mollify their base.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/28/tax-cuts-trump-gop-analysis-430781

POLITICO analysis: At $2.3 trillion cost, Trump tax cuts leave big gap

Between new cost estimates and the White House’s own budget numbers, the wheels are coming off Republican claims that President Donald Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves by generating increased growth and government revenues over the next decade.

“Not only will this tax plan pay for itself but it will pay down debt,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin famously boasted in September. But his own department’s analysts now peg the 10-year cost at $2.3 trillion given the administration’s assumption that tax breaks for individuals and large estates will be extended past 2025.

POLITICO’s own calculations, working entirely from data in the 2018 and 2019 budgets, indicate that the added revenues generated by the tax cuts themselves would fall substantially short of matching $2.3 trillion.

For the years 2018 to 2027, the shortfall ranges from $1 trillion to $1.3 trillion. In measuring for 2019 to 2028, the picture improves, but the 10-year shortfall still is between $700 billion to $1.1 trillion.


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McConnell to Fight Stimulus Bill 'In Every Way' as Biden Urges Senate Dems to Get it Done Now (Original Post) TomCADem Mar 2021 OP
McConnell hates Americans Blue Owl Mar 2021 #1
i hate McConnell .... HE IS EVIL, LIKE IN Anti-Christ Evil Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #14
Its very simple, if McConnell and the GQP somehow succeeds in squashing this bill cold, zorbasd Mar 2021 #16
I don't think it's wise for Manchin to screw this up. Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #2
I don't know what Manchin's problem is, but he is against his own voters. Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #22
Too many people here in KY would benefit Bayard Mar 2021 #3
Moscow Mitch McConnell equals Loser C Moon Mar 2021 #4
if thats the case we might as well double the stimulus check to 2800 just to rub it in mcturtles yaesu Mar 2021 #5
The GOP way to govern: Always block what the vast majority of the country needs and wants PSPS Mar 2021 #6
The reThugs fall in lockstep like Nazis. Where is the media taking them task about their lack of c-rational Mar 2021 #7
He literally enjoys being the Grim Reaper Zambero Mar 2021 #8
this needs to get done asap, the longer it stews the more likely it will go bad nt yaesu Mar 2021 #9
What's good for middle America, is bad for the GOP. badboy67 Mar 2021 #10
trump reamed Mitch's ol' ass today on his bitch box . monkeyman1 Mar 2021 #11
Moscow Mitch, the Senator from Russia. ZonkerHarris Mar 2021 #12
McConnell is trying to stop democratic policies that people will feel and that is the biggest threat chowder66 Mar 2021 #13
If certain "democrats" had a spine quakerboy Mar 2021 #15
McConnell will fight the Stimulus Bill because he knows it will work, help people, and be popular. Botany Mar 2021 #17
Don't believe a word Minority Mitch says, he's trying to usurp power yet again bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #18
This is on Manchin and Sinema. Shame on them. FlyingPiggy Mar 2021 #19
Don't Fall for Republican/Russian Efforts To Blame Democrats and Give Republicans a Free Pass TomCADem Mar 2021 #30
Bc you expect it from McConnell. You expect it from most Republicans. FlyingPiggy Mar 2021 #32
This is a thread about McConnell. It Is like Republicans blaming AOC... TomCADem Mar 2021 #33
Not sure where you got that I am defending McConnell. I am definitely not. FlyingPiggy Mar 2021 #34
The OP Is About McConnell. Of course, you are defending McConnell Through whataboutism TomCADem Mar 2021 #35
If Biden or the Dems have any success--the Republicans lose Evergreen Emerald Mar 2021 #20
No surprise. Maxheader Mar 2021 #21
MOSCOW Mitch truly is a monster. bluestarone Mar 2021 #23
Fuck him. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #24
Except Ollie Garkie Mar 2021 #25
Bernie won't sink it. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #26
Hope you're right Ollie Garkie Mar 2021 #27
The worst case scenario Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #28
One word: "Manchin" LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2021 #29
Do You Have Any Proof That Manchin Is Being Bribed by the GOP? TomCADem Mar 2021 #31

zorbasd

(73 posts)
16. Its very simple, if McConnell and the GQP somehow succeeds in squashing this bill cold,
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 03:48 AM
Mar 2021

they win back the House and Senate in 2022, with the Biden Presidency wounded. If Biden succeeds in getting this bill passed, the GQP losses big time.....Do we fight like hell, or let GQP squash this....

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
22. I don't know what Manchin's problem is, but he is against his own voters.
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 09:27 AM
Mar 2021

Both the Republican governor of WV and voters support this bill. The governor even said on national news that Biden should go big. So why is Manchin against it? It offends him for poor people in his state and small businesses to get help?

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
5. if thats the case we might as well double the stimulus check to 2800 just to rub it in mcturtles
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:41 AM
Mar 2021

beak.

PSPS

(13,579 posts)
6. The GOP way to govern: Always block what the vast majority of the country needs and wants
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:43 AM
Mar 2021

Biden better steamroll everything because his agenda has enormous support of both democratic and republican voters. That's your "unity" right there. "Bipartisan" in the designed-for-minority-rule senate and gerrymandered house is not the same as real "bipartisan" in the population at large. Joe should hammer that distinction. His agenda has huge and verifiable bipartisan support "in the country."

c-rational

(2,588 posts)
7. The reThugs fall in lockstep like Nazis. Where is the media taking them task about their lack of
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:49 AM
Mar 2021

bipartisanship, or the hypocrisy of not voting as a majority of their constituents would like them to?

badboy67

(460 posts)
10. What's good for middle America, is bad for the GOP.
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 01:36 AM
Mar 2021

Deadlock is Moscow Mitch’s scheme to get back to majority.

chowder66

(9,054 posts)
13. McConnell is trying to stop democratic policies that people will feel and that is the biggest threat
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 02:59 AM
Mar 2021

of all to the GOP. That is why they leave messes behind and try to thwart the advances of curtailing covid by opening up their states.
They are trying to make a mess to use against the Democrats and Biden. They don't want people to get financial help now because people may remember.

If the filibuster is not ended and Democrats do not have any other options they should override the Parliamentarian to pass the minimum wage increase.
Democrats MUST deliver relief that people will actually benefit from in real time, not years from now if we are no longer in the majority.

Manchin should know this and set aside grievances.... as should Sinema.

quakerboy

(13,916 posts)
15. If certain "democrats" had a spine
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 03:33 AM
Mar 2021

We would play some real hardball

We get 75 votes in the senate, the bill passes as is
We get less than 70 votes in the senate, We add $15 minimum
we get less than 65, we make the stimulus $3000.
We get less than 60, we make it $20 minimum.
We get 50+VP, then we repeal Literally all the tax cuts trump gave to anyone making over 500k per year

Botany

(70,447 posts)
17. McConnell will fight the Stimulus Bill because he knows it will work, help people, and be popular.
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 05:24 AM
Mar 2021

Last edited Wed Mar 3, 2021, 08:19 AM - Edit history (1)

We would not need this stimulus bill if Trump had not been such a huge fuck up. Just like
Obama had to have a stimulus bill to overcome the bush/Cheney economic crash and
McConnell fought that one too hoping that if people were hurting they would vote Obama
out in 2012.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
18. Don't believe a word Minority Mitch says, he's trying to usurp power yet again
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 07:40 AM
Mar 2021

This rule of the minority by election theft, vote suppression, filibuster, money in the media has got to END!

This GQP is the enemy of the people and of democracy itself. They only cooperate in anything when they can subvert or tweak the system to give themselves more money!

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
30. Don't Fall for Republican/Russian Efforts To Blame Democrats and Give Republicans a Free Pass
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:18 PM
Mar 2021

Blaming Manchin and Sinema for McConnell is just ridiculous. If it were not for them, Republicans would be holding up all of Biden's cabinet nominees. Also, even progressives like Bernie were holding up Tanden's nomination.

It is just odd how even in an OP about McConnell, people still manage to trash Democrats on DU.

FlyingPiggy

(3,376 posts)
32. Bc you expect it from McConnell. You expect it from most Republicans.
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 09:06 PM
Mar 2021

What you don’t expect is resistance from one of your own. I’m all about supporting our own. But if they don’t act like Democrats and support progressive measures, then I’m going to call them out for it.

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
33. This is a thread about McConnell. It Is like Republicans blaming AOC...
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 09:29 PM
Mar 2021

...for the outage in Texas when we get these spammed attacks on Democrats in a fit of whataboutism that would make Fox News proud.

Why try to defend Republicans like McConnell through attacks on Democrats?

FlyingPiggy

(3,376 posts)
34. Not sure where you got that I am defending McConnell. I am definitely not.
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 09:58 PM
Mar 2021

In any way. He is an evil bastard who I hope rots in hell. And that is why I am mad that we have 2 Democrats who are helping him.

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
35. The OP Is About McConnell. Of course, you are defending McConnell Through whataboutism
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 11:42 PM
Mar 2021

whataboutism - the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.

It is one thing if the OP was thread about Manchin, but instead rather than address the accusation or question, you blame Manchin, a Democrat, for McConnell's conduct. Or, you are drawing a false equivalency between Manchin and McConnell.

I understand that there are going to social media operations that are going to hijack every thread and make it about attacking Democrats that appear vulnerable by attacking such Democrats from the "left" by making false allegations that Manchin is getting bribed.

McConnell is a special kind of evil who has repeatedly shown a willingness to endanger Americans, undermine Democracy, or plunge the country into recession in order to secure power. I think most Democrats will understand the unique danger posed by modern Republicans and will see through efforts to divide Democrats.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
20. If Biden or the Dems have any success--the Republicans lose
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 09:09 AM
Mar 2021

That is the problem here.

There will not be bipartisan action because in order for the Republicans to stay in power, the Dems cannot succeed. So, at every turn, with every issue, the Republicans will not allow anything that resembles a democratic win. Even if it hurts Americans.

The Republicans did not seek office to govern. They want power, control, and money.



Ollie Garkie

(185 posts)
25. Except
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 10:26 AM
Mar 2021

All the Democrats don't support it. Bernie is threatening to sink it if it doesn't contain a min wage increase while Manchin and Sinema will sink it if it DOES contain the min wage increase!

Elessar Zappa

(13,906 posts)
26. Bernie won't sink it.
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 10:29 AM
Mar 2021

It won’t include the minimum wage increase so Manchin and Sinema should go along with it.

Elessar Zappa

(13,906 posts)
28. The worst case scenario
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 10:35 AM
Mar 2021

is that the income cap of $75,000 is lowered to $50,000 for the full $1400. Realistically, Manchin may insist on it. It would be horrible politics but it might be the only way the bill passes with his support.

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
31. Do You Have Any Proof That Manchin Is Being Bribed by the GOP?
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:22 PM
Mar 2021

That is a strong accusation. Also, doesn't that deserve its own thread or are you going to trash and slander Democrats even on OPs regarding McConnell. The OP has nothing to do with Manchin and Republicans would love to avoid responsibility by having people give them a free pass on their votes against the COVID relief package.

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