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Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:12 AM

Trump Hid 'Fraud' on Inheritance for Years, Niece Tells Judge

Source: Bloomberg News


Erik Larson 10 hrs ago

(Bloomberg) -- Donald Trumpís niece is balking at the former presidentís claim that she waited too long to file her multi-million dollar fraud suit against him, saying she would have sued sooner if he hadnít covered his tracks so well.

Mary Trump on Friday asked a judge to deny Donald Trumpís motion to dismiss the suit, which she filed in September against her uncle and his siblings, Robert Trump and Maryanne Trump Barry. She claims they conspired to skim tens of millions of dollars off her stake in the family business for decades after her father died and left them as her fiduciaries.

The suit by the daughter of Donald Trumpís late older brother, Fred Trump Jr., is one of several serious legal threats the former president faces as a private citizen. If the case in New York state court in Manhattan survives, he could be deposed under oath by the end of the year or early 2022.

The fight may hinge on New Yorkís statute of limitations, which is two years from the time a victim ďdiscovered the fraud, or could with reasonable diligence have discovered it.Ē Donald Trump, Maryanne Trump and the estate of Robert Trump, who died in August, argue their niece could have sued much earlier based on documents they handed over in other legal disputes, including a bitter court fight over the family patriarchís 1999 will.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-hid-fraud-on-inheritance-for-years-niece-tells-judge/ar-BB1e3qos?li=BBnb7Kz

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Reply Trump Hid 'Fraud' on Inheritance for Years, Niece Tells Judge (Original post)
Judi Lynn Feb 27 OP
bucolic_frolic Feb 27 #1
apnu Feb 28 #22
no_hypocrisy Feb 27 #2
cstanleytech Feb 27 #3
mobeau69 Feb 27 #5
thesquanderer Feb 27 #7
riversedge Feb 27 #4
twodogsbarking Feb 27 #6
orangecrush Feb 27 #8
twodogsbarking Feb 27 #11
DeminPennswoods Feb 27 #9
iluvtennis Feb 27 #13
FakeNoose Feb 27 #10
BlueIdaho Feb 27 #12
FakeNoose Feb 27 #16
oldsoftie Feb 27 #14
DeminPennswoods Feb 27 #17
MineralMan Feb 27 #15
rsdsharp Feb 27 #18
LiberalLovinLug Feb 27 #19
Martin68 Feb 27 #20
Dave Starsky Feb 28 #24
Blue Owl Feb 27 #21
travelingwithhendoe Feb 28 #23

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:56 AM

1. Hope it all gets a fair shakeout

She has skin in the game if she can pull the correct legal maneuvers

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:08 AM

22. In the American legal system? Good luck.

Our legal system is broken and broken intentionally to benefit the rich and powerful. Mary Trump has a gigantic mountain to climb.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:57 AM

2. Isn't that admitting that the Trump Estate defrauded Mary Trump?

It's arguing about time limitations, not validity of the claim.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 08:22 AM

3. No, arguing about legal time limitations does not constitute an admission of guilt.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 08:40 AM

5. Legally

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:26 AM

7. Right. Even an innocent person could pursue a simple time limitation defense before...

...spending all the time and money necessary to defend against a more complicated underlying accusation. It's normal for anyone to look for the easy ways out before the harder ones, regardless of guilt or innocence.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 08:37 AM

4. Hoping lady Justice working hard to prevail.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 09:09 AM

6. Trump should be assumed to be

guilty until all attempts to show innocence are exhausted.

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Response to twodogsbarking (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:28 AM

8. Welcome to D.U..

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:44 AM

11. Thank you.

Appreciated.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:40 AM

9. She describes the suit over Fred Jr's share of the estate

in her book. She had a lawyer, but, iirc, he was connected to her because the lawyer had also worked for Fred Sr. I can't recall all the details, but it didn't seem like she had the greatest lawyer in 1999. Then the NYT reporters approached her for a story. She ended up getting all the documents that were left from her last atty and giving them to the NYT. She's said she didn't know what was in all the boxes or understand what they showed. It was only after the NYT went through them and wrote their blockbuster story on the Trump family finances that she fully understood how she and her brother had been cheated.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 12:55 PM

13. + agree. that's what I recall from the book as well. the donald, maryanne, robert, and elizabeth

cheated Mary trump and her brother out of the percentage of the estate that there father (Fred Jr) would have received had he been living.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:41 AM

10. It seems to boil down to Mary's aunt Maryanne Trump Barry

Mary's aunt is the last one who could testify and provide evidence that Freddy's daughter Mary (and her brother) were cheated out of their father's share of the estate. But if Auntie Maryanne were to do that, it would cost her as well as Donald because they both benefited from the fraud.

Last minute tampering of the will (before the death of father Fred) would have been witnessed by someone in the family. I'm guessing it was Auntie Maryanne and her mother Mary. Besides Donald, who did the tampering.



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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 12:08 PM

12. Since Maryanne Trump is a retired judge

Iíd hope she would tell the truth under oath about the shenanigans Donny pulled to cheat Mary out of her fair share of the family money,

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 01:35 PM

16. Yes one would think so

However, she's also complicit in the fraud. And she's a Trump, so ...


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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 01:02 PM

14. "..could have sued much earlier based on documents they handed over.."?

So they're saying "we gave her enough info YEARS ago that we were being fraudulent, she should have sued then"?

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 02:53 PM

17. Sure sounds like it

nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 01:12 PM

15. "In Chancery" by John Galsworthy

illustrates this kind off fraudulent court filing and statute of limitations nonsense very well. In the end, the lawyers get everything and the family gets bupkes.

It's a slog of a read, but I thought it was worth reading.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 02:55 PM

18. There's a doctrine in the law called the discovery rule.

Basically it states that a statute of limitations doesnít begin to run until the plaintiff has sufficient knowledge of the facts to realize they have a cause of action, or in the exercise of reasonable diligence should have discovered the facts.

Itís often invoked in fraud cases where the potential defendant has concealed relevant facts. Her problem is that she said in her book that she discovered the facts when she got documents from her attorney to give to the NY Times. I think itís going to be hard to argue she couldnít have discovered the facts. Her lawyer had the facts in his possession. He apparently didnít review them sufficiently when advising her to accept the settlement.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 06:17 PM

19. I wish her the very best of luck

Love to see her win her case

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:03 PM

20. Of all the disgusting things Trump has done, this is one of the most shameful. Cheating your own

sister. Of course, it does not sink to the level of being responsible for 500,000 Covid deaths, an insurrection against the US government, or keeping kids in cages.

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Response to Martin68 (Reply #20)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 12:49 PM

24. If Trump was ever fair or straight-dealing with anyone in his life...

Then it was entirely by accident, and I'm sure he immediately tried to screw the other party over as soon as he found out about it.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 08:38 PM

21. K&R

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 12:39 PM

23. Some day the orange demon will face consequences.

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