Fri Feb 19, 2021, 11:52 AM
DonViejo (58,864 posts)
John Kerry says Earth has 9 years to avert the worst consequences of climate crisis: "There's no...
Source: CBS News
February 19, 2021, 10:56 AM John Kerry says Earth has 9 years to avert the worst consequences of climate crisis: "There's no faking it on this one" The wild winter weather this week has been called historic and unprecedented, and John Kerry, U.S. special presidential envoy for climate, wants to stop it from becoming typical. "Obviously we want to prevent this from becoming the new normal to the degree that we can," Kerry told CBS News' Ben Tracy. Many people wrongly believe that climate change only relates to temperatures increasing, not decreasing. Kerry said it threatens all weather patterns. "I think it's a very appropriate way to think of it, so it is directly related to the warming, even though your instinct is to say, wait a minute, this is the new Ice Age. But it's not," Kerry said. "It is coming from the global warming and it threatens all the normal weather patterns." Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/climate-change-9-years-john-kerry/
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DonViejo | Feb 19 | OP |
Bleacher Creature | Feb 19 | #1 | |
DonViejo | Feb 19 | #2 | |
JonLP24 | Feb 19 | #4 | |
ancianita | Feb 19 | #3 | |
CTyankee | Feb 19 | #5 | |
ancianita | Feb 19 | #6 | |
roamer65 | Feb 19 | #7 | |
Delphinus | Feb 21 | #18 | |
Stuart G | Feb 19 | #8 | |
rickyhall | Feb 19 | #9 | |
nam78_two | Feb 19 | #10 | |
Kid Berwyn | Feb 20 | #11 | |
Hugh_Lebowski | Feb 20 | #13 | |
NickB79 | Feb 20 | #16 | |
Hortensis | Feb 21 | #19 | |
Marthe48 | Feb 20 | #12 | |
marie999 | Feb 20 | #14 | |
ancianita | Feb 20 | #15 | |
Guy Whitey Corngood | Feb 20 | #17 |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 12:06 PM
Bleacher Creature (9,471 posts)
1. I love John Kerry, but how is he getting that level of precision?
That said, we need to act immediately.
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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #1)
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 12:10 PM
DonViejo (58,864 posts)
2. Follow the link to read the full CBS News article, I think your question is answered there. eom
Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #1)
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 04:05 PM
JonLP24 (27,475 posts)
4. I think this is similar to an earlier study
We have 12 years to limit climate change catastrophe, warns UN
Jonathan Watts Global environment editor Mon 8 Oct 2018 02.23 EDT https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report This is the DU member formerly known as JonLP24.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 03:57 PM
ancianita (22,031 posts)
3. If it's directly related to warming measures, it's more realistic than Gates' timeline.
Zero emissions by 2050 is too late. Corporations are not trustworthy, left to free market pressures, and they will benefit by everyone else's efforts first before making any efforts of their own.
Least cooperative essential industries like energy, agriculture, water and mining, must be nationalized to serve the mitigation projects of larger nations. We can't predict Earth's dynamics, nevermind halt them, once we hit the 2 degree Celsius threshold. |
Response to ancianita (Reply #3)
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 05:01 PM
CTyankee (58,431 posts)
5. We could have had John Kerry as our President back in 2004. Imagine how far ahead we could
have been on climate issues. I remember voting and thinking we would be calling him President Kerry. I was crushed when he lost.
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Response to CTyankee (Reply #5)
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 05:51 PM
ancianita (22,031 posts)
6. Agree. I'm sick of how we've won the popular vote for so many cycles and still f'n lose.
Now he's out there with the Paris Climate people and we're lucky to still have him.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 05:52 PM
roamer65 (25,575 posts)
7. Actually I think we have probably passed the "point of no return".
We are at 500ppm or so right now when you include all other GHG’s with CO2.
That is nearing half way to the levels of the Cretaceous Thermal Maximum. |
Response to roamer65 (Reply #7)
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 12:10 PM
Delphinus (8,887 posts)
18. There is so much
that is already "baked in" because of what we have failed to do.
Dahr Jamail has a great read out there - a year (or more) old now, on How then shall we live? and in here: [link:https://tomdispatch.com/dahr-jamail-we-can-t-undo-this/#more|. |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 08:31 PM
Stuart G (29,898 posts)
8. Kick and Rec for all to see. No text
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 11:39 PM
rickyhall (3,110 posts)
9. 7 inches of snow, 6 degrees below zero in De Queen, Arkansas. This is fucking serious.
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 11:47 PM
nam78_two (13,100 posts)
10. The latest UN report does not mince words
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/18/americas/un-report-climate-making-peace-intl/index.html
A new UN report urges a radical shift in the way we think about nature https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/huge-society-needed-nature-earth-75972560 UN: Huge changes in society needed to keep nature, Earth OK A new UN report on three environmental crises paints a picture of a broken Earth because of climate change, species loss and pollution By BY SETH BORENSTEIN AP Science Writer This is the DU member formerly known as nam78_two.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 08:55 AM
Kid Berwyn (5,378 posts)
11. Start planting trees, now.
Billions of them. Reforestation is just one component of a strategy, but we can get moving while we institute other measures and develop new technologies.
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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #11)
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 05:03 PM
Hugh_Lebowski (19,746 posts)
13. Yep, simplest, cheapest, most obvious thing to do ... and stop deforestation
obviously. Esp. the rain forests. Freaking ridiculous what's happening there.
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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #11)
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 10:31 PM
NickB79 (15,541 posts)
16. Many tree planting proposals go wildly off the rails quickly
First, most planting initiatives plant monocultures of just a few species, devoid of wildlife habitat.
Second, they often use non-native species. Third, a lot of areas should NOT be forested. Tall grass prairie like the Central US used to support, or the African savannah, actually sequester more carbon than forests due to their deep root masses. Planting trees there would increase, not decrease, carbon. Tree planting can be moderately successful, but not when it's done on the cheap. |
Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #11)
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 01:42 PM
Hortensis (44,180 posts)
19. Not many of us have rain forest. Most of us have back and front yards.
Meaningful action requires individual commitments to creating sustainable home environments.
Got trees? ![]() Any real effort to reduce energy for cooling of homes requires first stopping the sun's rays from hitting the house and turning it into an oven. Nothing else comes close. Newer houses now are well sealed to hold in the sun's heat, all summer, requiring the AC to run all day and in many areas all night to cool the ovens. Warming in winter starts with deciduous trees that let the sun through to heat the house, and supplementing that as needed. Might be useful to buy a rake at the same time as the tree(s) and fencing for a compost bin to toss the leaves in. No room/not allowed, build shading. And of course community meetings are for discussing community issues and making changing attitudes felt. ![]() |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 09:50 AM
Marthe48 (6,368 posts)
12. I love his optimism
I feel like it is already too late. Too late for species that have gone extinct, species that are suddenly endangered, environment that is fouled, air that is poison.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 06:39 PM
marie999 (1,302 posts)
14. I do not believe that enough governments and industries will do enough
to even slow down climate change.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 07:43 PM
ancianita (22,031 posts)
15. Here are projects that might make us feel better; and at least we know some humans are serious about
that nine year deadline.
https://www.rocketspace.com/corporate-innovation/24-innovative-startups-making-climate-change-impact-in-2019 Startups are tackling both the upstream causation of climate change as well as the downstream effects. Here are 24 innovative startups leading the charge across transportation, agriculture, and waste management.
Transportation Transportation is shifting. Key trends combating climate change in transportation include increased adoption of electric vehicles and infrastructure, ride-sharing, and launching mass easeful adoption of environment-friendly bikes and scooters. Changing the way we move: electric vehicle (EV) startups to watch Weltmeister: One of the few EV companies targeting the mainstream (vs luxury) market with a well-designed, 100% electric vehicle, Shanghai-based Weltmeister is positioned to lead the charge. It has raised an impressive $1 Billion and is led by a former Volvo executive, Freemen Shen. ChargePoint: This electric vehicle charging infrastructure startup operates the world’s largest and most open EV charging network. Based in California, ChargePoint has raised over $500MM from top automotive brands such as Daimler and BMW. Hail away: top ride-sharing startups steal markets from Uber Bolt (formerly Taxify): Estonia-originated ride-sharing company rapidly expanded in Europe and Africa and is challenging Uber in those markets with $170MM in funding. Didi Chuxing: Backed by Chinese giant TenCent and having acquired Uber’s China unit, the company known as “China’s Uber” is valued at a whopping $56B, making it the 3rd most valuable startup in the world. Urban transportation domination: which startups will win the bike-share wars? Mobike: The Shanghai-based startup emerged as the winner of the China bike-sharing market while rival Ofo is on the verge of bankruptcy. Mobike exited successfully via a $2.7B acquisition by Chinese super app service Meituan-Dianping. Lime (formerly Limebike): As the bike-sharing market becomes increasingly saturated, California-based Lime is differentiating itself by phasing out its signature electric bikes in favor of electric scooters. Agriculture The top ways to combat climate change within agriculture include reducing meat consumption, specifically from beef cattle to minimize greenhouse gas emissions, leveraging technology to reduce excessive land and vehicle dependencies, and optimizing water transportation and usage. Tastes like meat: top plant-based or lab-grown meats Impossible Foods: Along with Beyond Meat, Just, and Terramino Foods, this Bill Gates-backed, California-based startup is the most recognized brand in plant-based meat and is already in numerous restaurants, including popular chains such as the Counter, Umami Burger, and Dave and Busters. Mosa Meat: Along with Memphis Meats, Aleph Farms, and Finless Foods, this Netherlands-based company is leading the way in lab-grown meats made from animal cells, significantly reducing land and soil depletion, methane emissions, and often inhumane practices caused by traditional cattle raising. Smart farming: technology startups optimizing farming resource allocation Bowery Farming: The leader in urban farming, this New York-based startup backed by GV (Google Ventures) builds warehouse farms that use proprietary computer software, LED lighting, and robotics to grow leafy greens without pesticides and with 95% less water than traditional agriculture. TerrAvion: This California-based technology company uses aerial imagery along with heat and soil maps to identify problem areas across expansive farms and efficiently deploy targeted solutions. Slow the flow: startups in water usage optimization AquaSpy: Based in Australia, this water technology startup provides a soil-monitoring system that measures moisture, temperature, and electrical conductivity. This tells farmers specifically where to apply fertilizer and improves crop yields of up to 40%! PowWow Energy: Another California-based startup turns existing smart energy meters into water flow meters that detect anomalies in water irrigation patterns to reduce waste. It also helps with tracking, monitoring, and reporting for regulatory compliance. More at the link above. ![]() |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 10:39 PM
Guy Whitey Corngood (23,274 posts)