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Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:03 PM

Exclusive: Ukraine Releases 'Shock' Call With Giuliani As Trump's Second Impeachment Trial Begins

Source: Time

BY SIMON SHUSTER
FEBRUARY 9, 2021 5:59 PM EST

“Let these investigations go forward,” Rudy Giuliani told the presidential headquarters in Kyiv, Ukraine, his voice turning impatient. “Get someone to investigate this.” On the other end of the line, hunched over a speakerphone, two Ukrainian officials listened in disbelief as Giuliani demanded probes that could help his client, then-President Donald Trump, win another term in office.

The 40-minute call, a transcript of which was obtained by TIME, provides the clearest picture yet of Giuliani’s attempts to pressure the Ukrainians on Trump’s behalf. The President’s personal lawyer toggled between veiled threats—“Be careful,” he warned repeatedly—and promises to help improve Ukraine’s relations with Trump. “My only motive—it isn’t to get anybody in trouble who doesn’t deserve to be in trouble,” Giuliani said. “For our country’s sake and your country’s sake, we [need to] get all these facts straight,” he added. “We fix them and we put it behind us.”

The conversation on July 22, 2019, kicked off the campaign of intimidation that resulted in Trump’s first impeachment. For a year and half, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his aides said little about their interactions with Giuliani, not wanting to anger an emissary of the U.S. President. But now, as the Trump era ends with a historic second impeachment trial, the Ukrainians have begun to speak up about the circumstances that led to the first. They are also taking steps that could imperil Giuliani and his Ukrainian allies.

Igor Novikov, who served as a close adviser to Zelensky during Trump’s first impeachment, says he is willing to assist an ongoing federal investigation of Giuliani that is reportedly underway in New York, as well as a separate effort to strip Giuliani of his license to practice law. Zelensky’s government has taken legal action against Giuliani’s Ukrainian associates. And they have opened up to the media about the pressure campaign mounted by Trump and his allies. On Feb. 3, Novikov sent TIME a transcript of the Giuliani call, whose accuracy TIME has independently verified.




Read more: https://time.com/5937491/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-trump-impeachment/

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Reply Exclusive: Ukraine Releases 'Shock' Call With Giuliani As Trump's Second Impeachment Trial Begins (Original post)
Judi Lynn Feb 9 OP
niyad Feb 9 #1
ProfessorGAC Feb 9 #3
OAITW r.2.0 Feb 9 #2
Imperialism Inc. Feb 9 #4
Jirel Feb 9 #5
wnylib Feb 9 #9
dhill926 Feb 9 #6
wnylib Feb 9 #10
LuvNewcastle Feb 9 #17
lagomorph777 Feb 10 #26
Ford_Prefect Feb 9 #7
PatSeg Feb 9 #8
BobTheSubgenius Feb 9 #16
PatSeg Feb 9 #19
LiberalLovinLug Feb 9 #11
Scurrilous Feb 9 #12
tclambert Feb 9 #13
lagomorph777 Feb 10 #27
thenelm1 Feb 9 #14
BumRushDaShow Feb 10 #23
groundloop Feb 9 #15
BobTheSubgenius Feb 9 #20
Chemisse Feb 9 #18
mezame Feb 10 #22
alfredo Feb 10 #21
cstanleytech Feb 10 #24
live love laugh Feb 10 #25

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:04 PM

1. This ought to be fun.

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:13 PM

3. Took My Words!

He has to be feeling a bit nauseous right now.
Mob buster to busted mobster!
Delightful.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:12 PM

2. Oh, almost forgot.....Impeachment 1.

So, this is the Zelensky pay back? Seems like he will be providing an awful lot of evidence that show Rudi commiting international thuggery for Donald Trump. Sure, but we may need a scorecard.....I propose:

Impeachment 1 - Manufacture dirt on your strongest Democratic opponent.
Impeachment 2 - Insurrection
Impeachment 3 - Gross fucking negligence in the needless 200,000+ deaths that could have been preventable with competent national leadership.....starting and ending in the WH.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:22 PM

4. Rudy definitely belongs in jail.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:39 PM

5. Are they REALLY this dumb?

It's mind-boggling. You'd think that an educated, experienced politician would understand that the party is going to end sometime, and how you act now WILL be remembered and might, coincidentally, lead to disgrace or criminal charges.

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Response to Jirel (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:15 PM

9. But he was confident that the scheme

would work and Trump would have a second term, followed by Ivanka, Jared, etc. So Rudy did not think he had anything to fear about the truth coming out in his life time.

The whole Trump crime mob was riding high in the belief that they had the future sewn up for themselves.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:40 PM

6. I hope a tsunami of shit engulfs everyone...

associated with trump...

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:16 PM

10. I'll second that.

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 11:06 PM

17. A poonami?

This is the DU member formerly known as LuvNewcastle.

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Response to LuvNewcastle (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:31 AM

26. LOL!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:53 PM

7. Get that popcorn while it hot and buttered!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:01 PM

8. Whoa

And released in the middle of Impeachment II. Great timing.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 11:04 PM

16. I'd say "good timing."

"Great timing" would have been in time for Impeachment One.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 11:15 PM

19. Ah yes, good point

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:17 PM

11. When we get done this one, lets redo the first one.

Now THAT would make MAGA heads explode.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:21 PM

12. K&R

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:28 PM

13. They are going to have to add a new wing to the Supermax prison in Florence, CO

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Response to tclambert (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:32 AM

27. Nah - stack up a few more shipping containers at Gitmo.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:28 PM

14. First thought is why now rather than a year ago, but the answers, of course, are obvious...

now that dump doesn't control the foreign aid purse strings.

Time for a little payback. Ahh, that karma thing...

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Response to thenelm1 (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 10, 2021, 06:59 AM

23. My exact same thoughts

This would have been useful a year ago but it's obvious that even then, in addition to the purse strings (and military), it wouldn't have made any difference to the GOP whatsoever because it's how they do business.

However if that info is enough to nail Ghouliani, then...

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 11:01 PM

15. I'm thinking this will be another case of the messenger taking the fall for Benedict Donald

Just like Cohen spending time in prison for what Benedict Donald had him do my prediction (and it's worth every last red cent you paid for it) is the Rudy will take the fall for this.

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Response to groundloop (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 11:22 PM

20. I bet there's not a person here that would make a bet on that.

I don't think there is a sliver of doubt that, if anybody wears this, it will be Rudy. Clearly, Il Douche is the Prize, but Rudy is definitely a high second-tier prize, and I would be happy to see his head above someone's mantle. Figuratively, of course. Above him might only be Moscow Mitch...either on the wall or within the metaphor.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 11:07 PM

18. Oh, this is delightful! Onward and upward to the 'I's for the Trump crime family & cohorts.

Interviews, investigations, indictments, impeachments, and those sweetest of all things: imprisonments.

There just can never be too many!



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Response to Chemisse (Reply #18)

Wed Feb 10, 2021, 05:04 AM

22. The Ayes Have It

Exactly right.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Feb 10, 2021, 12:03 AM

21. That's going to leave a scar. Rudy you fustilarian

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Feb 10, 2021, 07:26 AM

24. Trump and those in his inner circle like his sons might be worried over this as they are

not immune to criminal investigations and indictments should evidence emerge to warrant it.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Feb 10, 2021, 10:34 AM

25. What's so horrific about this is that the country being propositioned

could have been anti-American.

We are just lucky the Ukraine isn’t. Imagine what effect this would have her on the election if they had agreed to do Giuliani‘s and trumps bidding .

The compromising of our democracy at the hands of a foreign entity is definitely a high crime and treason and Giuliani should be jailed.

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