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Judi Lynn

(160,218 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:28 AM Jan 2021

Firefighter Andrew Williams arrested after photo showed him pointing at a placard for Speaker Pelosi

Source: CNN

Firefighter Andrew Williams arrested after photo showed him pointing at a placard for Speaker Pelosi in US Capitol Building
By Jamiel Lynch and Danielle Hackett, CNN 58 mins ago

A Florida firefighter was arrested for unlawful entry of a restricted building and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, according to court documents, after a photo surfaced of him wearing a Trump 2020 hat and pointing at a placard for Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi inside the US Capitol.

Andrew Williams, a firefighter-paramedic with the Sanford Fire Department, appeared in federal court Tuesday and was released on a $25,000 signature bond, according to the court documents.

The Sanford Fire Department launched an investigation into Williams' involvement after the photo circulated online. Fire Chief Craig Radzak confirmed it was Williams in the photo and said that Williams had been with the department as a firefighter-paramedic since October 2016.

Williams has been placed on administrative leave without pay, according to an updated release from the fire department.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/firefighter-andrew-williams-arrested-after-photo-showed-him-pointing-at-a-placard-for-speaker-pelosi-in-us-capitol-building/ar-BB1cHKQJ?li=BBnb7Kz





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Firefighter Andrew Williams arrested after photo showed him pointing at a placard for Speaker Pelosi (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2021 OP
Better Get That Resume Ready Bub sfstaxprep Jan 2021 #1
Hopefully he'll be putting out fires behind bars rpannier Jan 2021 #4
Exactly OldBaldy1701E Jan 2021 #20
Agree! Wuddles440 Jan 2021 #29
Enjoy making license plates Sparky. (nt) FreepFryer Jan 2021 #2
TY to Everyone Involved in getting Cha Jan 2021 #3
Firefighters have always been heroes to me ailsagirl Jan 2021 #5
Firefighters fall in the hero archetype category SheltieLover Jan 2021 #6
me too. but the glow was already off for me this summer. mopinko Jan 2021 #18
That's terrible ailsagirl Jan 2021 #21
it's been so 2020 in my life. mopinko Jan 2021 #24
Way to flush your job, life, and future down the toilet, MORON. 634-5789 Jan 2021 #7
ETTD Roy Rolling Jan 2021 #8
Buh bye! orangecrush Jan 2021 #9
Hopefully, this terrorist will be tried as an accessory to murder. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2021 #10
Why are these (alleged) seditionists being released on bond? Layzeebeaver Jan 2021 #11
Because of all the tRump judicial appointees Cozmo Jan 2021 #27
It takes fuckin crazy people.... Maxheader Jan 2021 #12
These are just initial charges... Jon King Jan 2021 #13
I hope you are right twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #15
I am puzzled how you get low bail twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #14
IIRC BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #16
Thanks, I thought overthrowing the government was twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #17
They'd have to have enough evidence to show that intent BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #19
"It's the people's placard!!" JohnnyRingo Jan 2021 #22
You can bet he's not the only one in the department that's a Nazi. Hotler Jan 2021 #23
there should be a national register of these names so that they AllaN01Bear Jan 2021 #25
US Magistrate that let firefighter walk is a tRump appointee What a surprise Cozmo Jan 2021 #26
He ruined a good career and his freedo0m and for what? Some orange colored wanna-be Mussolini. Marrah_Goodman Jan 2021 #28

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
1. Better Get That Resume Ready Bub
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:53 AM
Jan 2021

Are you qualified for anything other than firefighting? Perhaps some corrupt police department would hire you.

But you're in FL, so you got a fighting chance to find some place that doesn't care you participated in a Riot at the U.S. Capitol.

OldBaldy1701E

(4,968 posts)
20. Exactly
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:28 AM
Jan 2021

However, it was not a 'riot'... it was a specific attack and the more I read about it, the more I am feeling that 'spur of the moment' decision was made a long while before that day. Just my opinion of course.

Wuddles440

(1,098 posts)
29. Agree!
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jan 2021

There was nothing "spontaneous" about this attack for many of the participants. Comms, maps, staging/meeting areas, accommodating LEOs, etc. - this was a planned and coordinated assault.

Cha

(295,925 posts)
3. TY to Everyone Involved in getting
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 04:35 AM
Jan 2021

this guy Andrew Williams arrested.. including really dumb, Andy, himself.

Williams has been placed on administrative leave without pay, according to an updated release from the fire department.

Likes being brainwashed by trump more than his career.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
6. Firefighters fall in the hero archetype category
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:59 AM
Jan 2021

Deeply disappointed that this terroristvhas besmirched the profession.

mopinko

(69,806 posts)
18. me too. but the glow was already off for me this summer.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:41 AM
Jan 2021

next door neighbors did a big rehab. i was fighting w them over masks.
turns out the head guy was a firefighter.
old guy, assume retired. but had his ff plates on his work van, instead of the b plates he should have.

didnt even have masks on doing demo. tearing out 100 yr old walls, no masks.
one day i was yelling at them. i couldnt be in my front yard most days.
he started to come at me. happened to have a hose in my hand, so i turned it on him.
threatened to call the cops on me.

i suspect this being chicago, we have more than our share of asshole ff, but...

634-5789

(4,175 posts)
7. Way to flush your job, life, and future down the toilet, MORON.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:24 AM
Jan 2021

If this was my kid, I would disavow the little traitor. He would be dead to me.

Roy Rolling

(6,853 posts)
8. ETTD
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:17 AM
Jan 2021

The firefighter “brand” of being a selfless hero?

Welcome to people wondering if a firefighter is a secret member of the KKK.

That’s what happens when you support Trump.

Layzeebeaver

(1,575 posts)
11. Why are these (alleged) seditionists being released on bond?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:39 AM
Jan 2021

I typically don't go off on a rant but these are strange times...

/begin rant

This is unprecedented social and political behaviour and displays a vile and insidious contempt for democracy.

They should not be released until their guilt or innocence has been proven. (might not be legal, but it is my sentiment)

Accelerate the judicial process where necessary, but stay on message and keep these fucked-up 'threads' out of our 'social fabric' as long as possible.

This guy (Mr. Williams) definitely.

Signature Bond? WTF?

Oh, and Caveman guy? What the hell was he thinking? Perhaps it was his 'fantasy day out' in his self-perceived open-air L.A.I.R.E. event. (Sorry for the 'Role Models' pop culture reference) And what was the purpose of the ferret on his head? (Confession... My wife and I think he gets the award for best dressed 'MAGAT' - Make America Great Again TERRORIST)

I used to attend board gaming events years ago where they banned nazi (and any military) cosplay decisively - decades ago. Everyone was happy after that. Nationally, we should consider adopting the same approach to militia cosplayers (when you wear military uniforms and gear to any public event which then becomes violent, you could be charged for incitement of violence) - AND - perhaps all public servants at national, state and local levels (All Firemen, police, and all publicly elected officials) should swear an oath to the constitution as well. You want a job keeping society safe? Then raise your right hand...

/end rant

Oh and before I forget... THANK YOU Judi Lynn!

Maxheader

(4,366 posts)
12. It takes fuckin crazy people....
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:56 AM
Jan 2021

to fight fires in Florida? To be a paramedic? I can understand that....

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
13. These are just initial charges...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:58 AM
Jan 2021

These clowns will get a whole lot more once Garland takes command of DOJ and they fully investigate them. My hunch is this guy left a trail of evidence of planning to go after Pelosi. He did not stand under that placard by accident. They had a plan. Once conspiracy is charged, the penalties escalate a lot.

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
16. IIRC
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:23 AM
Jan 2021

the bail is most likely $250,000 but they will often allow payment of 10% of that as a "bond" and if you skip the appearance, then you owe the full $250,000.

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
19. They'd have to have enough evidence to show that intent
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:01 AM
Jan 2021

and it usually depends on the jurisdiction and how they set up their bail (including what crimes qualify for what amounts, although I expect federal bail amounts are standardized). In this case, he was arrested in FL and a charge of sedition wasn't made (yet) - so far it was only disorderly conduct. What may happen is once he goes to D.C. for further court appearances, the feds may impose a higher or no bail based on any additional charges once they complete their investigation.

JohnnyRingo

(18,581 posts)
22. "It's the people's placard!!"
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:05 AM
Jan 2021

The people's house and the people's chair.
Thank goodness the people got our property back from these seditious unAmerican thugs.

Hotler

(11,353 posts)
23. You can bet he's not the only one in the department that's a Nazi.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:11 AM
Jan 2021

Just one that got caught. Just like the voting public, 48% are Nazi.

AllaN01Bear

(17,383 posts)
25. there should be a national register of these names so that they
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:01 PM
Jan 2021

never serve on a pd or fd again. where i live , we got the trash from other departments in ca. esp after rodney king .

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